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LilyM
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You may’ve been messing, but far too many believe it to be literal unvarnished truth for me to let it go unchallenged.Lily, I was messing with you, but seriously, you know the reversion to the EF would take time. If the Pope abrogated the OF today, the majority of priests could not pray the EF. They wouldn’t know where to start. It’s silly to ask why it’s not happening so abruptly.
A minority of Cardinals at VII wanted the EF in the vernacular. They didn’t ask for a new Mass.
Name something about the Gregorian Rite you don’t like. You can’t without flirting with anathema or rejecting the demand and decree of the man who called VII in the first place. As long as John XXII was alive there was to be no changes to the Mass of the Ages. Why would he write Veterum Sapientia and publish the 1962 Missal if he was going to tolerate a new Mass in the vernacular ? Sadly he died before the close of the Council. GRHS
At the risk of flirting with anathema and possibly disappointing John XXIII (not that his successors who may’ve done the same were any the less valid Popes guided by the Holy Spirit than he was) I don’t like several things about the EF -
a) the lectionary - much less scripture proclaimed during the Mass than in the EF
b) readings in Latin and then in vernacular - needless repetition
c) more than one confiteor - unnecessary
d) the prolixity of the prayers - clearer and simpler language can be a benefit and an advantage in the Mass as it is in every other situation. And short and sweet does not equal lacking in meaning.
It’s often been pointed out that the OF’s Eucharistic Prayer 2 is the most ancient but also the shortest of all its EPs, and I’m sure the good folk who used it in the early centuries of the Church found their faith didn’t suffer one iota by not having the extra minutes of verbiage recited in order to ‘clarify’ various theological points for their benefit.
e) inability of priests to concelebrate, leading to the bizarre practice of several priests saying Mass on separate altars at the same time.
f) I LIKE hearing the priest say the words of consecration for a few reasons - not least of which being that I can be assured that the Mass I’m attending is valid on that score at least.
Ever read St Bernardine of Siena’s sermon about priests who would ‘consecrate’ the host by saying a HAIL MARY over it? This abuse was possible purely because the Canon was silent and no-one any the wiser. Not that priests never mangle the words of consecration in the OF, but at least if they said a Hail Mary over the Host EVERYONE would know it, and even the not-so-bright pennies would realise that there’d been no consecration and thus no valid Eucharist.
Opinions are like elbows, everyone’s got one … and John XXIII’s, in this instance, are the opposite of infallible. Which is why Paul VI felt free to ignore them and continued on with the Council.I guess it’s open to debate, but I believe he did in fact demand the Council be closed, while he lay on his deathbed.