Why do Muslims not embrace Bahá'u'lláh as their prophet?

[inJESUS]

Why someone thinks its hard to bring such a book after 23 years!!!
Muhammed took 23 years in his claimed revelation, so he had time to hear such wisdom from here and there.

it is much more that 23 years…for how long did he know Waraqa ben Nawfal? add " at least" 15 years…and that’s only one source.

 

[Isa_Almisry]

It leaves him to be a prophet of the morning star:

“How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain.I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.” (Isaiah 14:12-14).

hee, hee. What’s the Greco-Latin for morning star?

 

[cathopologist]

Because his claims contradict what is written in the Qur’an that the prophet muhammad (s) was the seal of all prophets. That is to say no more porophets after him.

Really? The Bahai’s actually regard Mohammad as a prophet of good standing and here you are, saying such things.
"Blessing and peace be upon Him [Muhammad] through Whose advent Bathá [Mecca] is wreathed in smiles, and the sweet savours of Whose raiment have shed fragrance upon all mankind-- He Who came to protect men from that which would harm them in the world below. Exalted, immensely exalted is His station above the glorification of all beings and sanctified from the praise of the entire creation. Through His advent the tabernacle of stability and order was raised throughout the world and the ensign of knowledge hoisted among the nations. May blessings rest also upon His kindred and His companions through whom the standard of the unity of God and of His singleness was uplifted and the banners of celestial triumph were unfurled. Through them the religion of God was firmly established among His creatures and His Name magnified amidst His servants."- Tablets of Baha’u’llah revealed after the Kitab-i-Aqdas, p. 162

Qur’an 33:40 "Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things.’
further more, it is our belief that God notified all the prophets of the past from Adam to Jesus (as) of Muhammad’s (s) comming and took a covenant with them to believe in him and his decendants upto the mahdi who will restore Justice, equality, and peace to the land

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, "Both in this world and in the Hereafter, I am the nearest of all the people to Jesus, the son of Mary. The prophets are paternal brothers; their mothers are different, but their religion is one." Sahih-Volume 4, Book 55, Number 652:

*"The prophets are brothers of different mothers, but their religion is one. Of all men I am the most deserving to be the brother of Jesus Son of Mary, for there was no prophet between me and him." *
[Al Hendy, Kanzol 'Ummal, Vol. 17, Hadith No. 1033.]

Baha’u’llah wrote:*** ’ …how many are those who, through failure to understand its meaning, have allowed the term “Seal of the Prophets” to obscure their understanding, and deprive them of the grace of all His manifold bounties! Hath not Muhammad, Himself, declared: “I am all the Prophets?” Hath He not said as We have already mentioned: “I am Adam, Noah, Moses, and Jesus?**” Why should Muhammad, that immortal Beauty, Who hath said: “I am the first Adam” be incapable of saying also: “I am the last Adam”? For even as He regarded Himself to be the “First of the Prophets” - that is Adam - in like manner, the “Seal of the Prophets” is also applicable unto that Divine Beauty. It is admittedly obvious that being the “First of the Prophets,” He likewise is their “Seal.” … ’ - Book of Certitude".*

 

[cathopologist]

hehehe

Muhammad(pbuh) was the Last Prophet, that’s why.

Duh.

Or for a more serious answer–there was a man at the time of Muhammad (pbuh) who also claimed to be a prophet with revelation. He was a liar. Muhammad had proof of his prophethood, and his proof says he is the last.

So? That does not mean Bahá’u’lláh’s prophet hood is invalid. And he’s made some good points above. Duh

 

[cathopologist]

Muslims do not take your words as truth Cathopologist. You are lying against Muslims and Islam.

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What do i benefit from lying when you know its the truth? Bahá’u’lláh does the same and it boils your blood?

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Allah states that there is only One God and Mohammad is the last messenger and servant of God.

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A servant of God does not beg his followers to give him good credits, whilst he gets the best seat in heaven. That’s selfishness. Not what a prophet of any kind would do or ask.

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Nothing was stolen from Judaism or Christianity…

Oh please.**
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[Sister_Amy]

Yes, we’ve yet to see this much vaunted “proof.”

His proof against Maslamah (to whom I think you are refering) was Abu Bakr’s sword. Abu Bakr, according to your sources, swore that he would extract as much as a sandle strap from whomsoever gave it to Muhammad.

Sources?

Best not make assumptions. We have a saying that when you assume you make an a** out of u and me.

The proof of Muhammad’s prophethood is my point. The prophet that Muhammad, saaws, received revelation from his Lord is…

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(please, fill in the blank!)

 

[Sister_Amy]

it is much more that 23 years…for how long did he know Waraqa ben Nawfal? add " at least" 15 years…and that’s only one source.

Yawn.

When will you guys make up your mind?

Today you say someone taught it to him.

Before that you were calling him a liar.

Before you were saying that he was crazy.

Can’t you bring something new? Or can’t you even DECIDE???

Good grief.

 

[Sister_Amy]

So? That does not mean Bahá’u’lláh’s prophet hood is invalid. And he’s made some good points above. Duh

My post was short–you really don’t have an excuse for not reading it.

If Muhammad was the LAST prophet, then OBVIOUSLY anyone else who claims to be a prophet after him is NOT a prophet.

Duh.

 

[Isa_Almisry]

Yawn.

When will you guys make up your mind?

Today you say someone taught it to him.

Before that you were calling him a liar.

Before you were saying that he was crazy.

Can’t you bring something new? Or can’t you even DECIDE???

Good grief.

How about all of the above:they are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Sister_Amy]

How about all of the above:they are not mutually exclusive.

Yeah they are.

But hey, go your route–it just gets less and less plausible.

I don’t know what exactly you think you’re going to say when you’re brought up before your Lord who created you from some dirty water… seriously, what will be your excuse?

 

[Isa_Almisry]

Yeah they are.

But hey, go your route–it just gets less and less plausible.

I don’t know what exactly you think you’re going to say when you’re brought up before your Lord who created you from some dirty water… seriously, what will be your excuse?

“We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.”

 

[Angelos]

Yawn.

When will you guys make up your mind?

Today you say someone taught it to him.

Before that you were calling him a liar.

Before you were saying that he was crazy.

Can’t you bring something new? Or can’t you even DECIDE???

We have already decided, dear Amy.

Someone taught Mohammad, but he attributed that teaching to God. He was a liar. As for his being crazy, no normal person would attribute to God the things taught him by a human.

 

[Americanrevert]

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What do i benefit from lying when you know its the truth? Bahá’u’lláh does the same and it boils your blood?

simply that you want to mislead others …not really I could care less what Bahu… states. lol I am not gonna lay in his grave am I.

A servant of God does not beg his followers to give him good credits, whilst he gets the best seat in heaven. That’s selfishness. Not what a prophet of any kind would do or ask.

He didn’t give himself this status and he never proclaimed to be more of than messenger and a man. God raised him in this status. and well, he hasn’t denied himself being good has he…

tell me what exactly did Mohammad take from a book that has contradictions to prove what yall believe in??? You think a book with no faults would even want to be compared to one that has??? get real

americanrevert**

 

[Angelos]

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He didn’t give himself this status and he never proclaimed to be more of than messenger and a man. God raised him in this status. and well, he hasn’t denied himself being good has he… **

Mohammad bin Abdallah should have denied being good for the sake of justice and honesty.

He made use of his supposed mission while dealing with women. He ascribed to himself the prerogatives the other Muslim guys were deprived from. Read your scripture and be honest.

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tell me what exactly did Mohammad take from a book that has contradictions to prove what yall believe in??? You think a book with no faults would even want to be compared to one that has??? get real

americanrevert**

Mohammad bin Abdallah was so ------------------ that he adopted even many Jewish fables and legends and added them into his Koran. He also stole from the apocryphal Gospels of Jesus’ infancy.

 

[Americanrevert]

**amazing…put forth your claim and your side of the things that you say he stole…lay them forth and quit your stupid remarks…they aren’t cool

americanrevert**

 

[Angelos]

**amazing…put forth your claim and your side of the things that you say he stole…lay them forth and quit your stupid remarks…they aren’t cool

americanrevert**

Since my claims deserve a separate thread, you shall have to wait a bit. LOL

Cool off! Imitate me: I never call your stupid remarks stupid.

 

[Sam_777]

cathopologist;4184104:

So? That does not mean Bahá’u’lláh’s prophet hood is invalid. And he’s made some good points above. Duh

If Muhammad was the LAST prophet, then OBVIOUSLY anyone else who claims to be a prophet after him is NOT a prophet.

But Jesus before 600 years of Muhammed said this:

(John 14:6):
“Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

(Revelation 22:13):
“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”

(1 John 4:1):
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.”

(Matthew 24:11):
“And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.”

(Matthew 7:15-16):
“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?”

What if that Baháulláh’s prophet said Muhammed is not the last prophet, and Muslims have corrupted the Quran, should we believe him?

 

[inJESUS]

Yeah they are.

But hey, go your route–it just gets less and less plausible.

I don’t know what exactly you think you’re going to say when you’re brought up before your Lord who created you from some dirty water… seriously, what will be your excuse?

i will ask him what were you thinking of, allowing humans to be more powerful than you in misleading people, to end up sending us a man of questionable character without any proof because you did nothing to support your prophet, on the contrary, you allowed wicked men to prophecize against him and still write your words are standing for ever? blame yourself, not me

obviously this is very hypothetical as the Lord will receive His faithful servants who did not question His Faithfulness and will have other talks with those who followed men who told them : did God r-e-a-l-l-y say that?

 

[inJESUS]

What if that Baháulláh’s prophet said Muhammed is not the last prophet, and Muslims have corrupted the Quran, should we believe him?

yes, if you happen to “know” his book is from Allah, and if you believe that Allah does not preserve his words anyway…

 

[cathopologist]

simply that you want to mislead others …not really I could care less what Bahu… states. lol I am not gonna lay in his grave am I.

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I have no intention of misleading others. I do not have the time for broadway tactics that i find very often in modern Muslim scholars.
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He didn’t give himself this status and he never proclaimed to be more of than messenger and a man. God raised him in this status. and well, he hasn’t denied himself being good has he…

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You mean you didn’t know this?
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Muslim, Book 004, Number 0747:
“'Abdullah b. Amr b. al-As reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: When you hear the Mu’adhdhin, repeat what he says, then invoke a blessing on me, for everyone who invokes a blessing on me will receive ten blessings from Allah; then beg from Allah al-Wasila for me, which is a rank in Paradise fitting for only one of Allah’s servants, and I hope that I may be that one*. If anyone who asks that I be given the Wasila, he will be assured of my intercession*.”

I guess Allah was speaking on Mohammad’s behalf here, huh?**

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tell me what exactly did Mohammad take from a book that has contradictions to prove what yall believe in??? You think a book with no faults would even want to be compared to one that has??? get real

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Fakhruddin Razi, on the authority of Ibn Abbas, a nephew of Muhammed, "The Jews and early Christians were suspected of altering the text of the Taurat and Injil; but in the opinion of eminent doctors and theologians it was not practicable thus to corrupt the text, because those Scriptures were generally known and widely circulated, having been handed down from generation to generation

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The early Muslim scholars had better brains and integrity not to make ridiculous claims such as how modern day Muslim scholars do. It’s too bad modern Muslims such as yourself fall prey to their hatred - just to prove the Qur’an is “superior” than the Bible. Here are more proofs:

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The Quran declares the Bible to be a true revelation of God and demands faith in the Bible. Sura 2:40-42,126,136,285; 3:3,71,93; 4:47,136; 5:47-51, 69,71-72; 6:91; 10:37,94; 21:7; 29:45,46; 35:31; 46:11

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