Why do non catholics dislike Mother Mary?

[Prodigal_Son1]

Love Mary??? I don’t know her. I highly respect her.

See what I mean…

Does Catholic love for the mother of our Lord, or our belief in her being ever virgin jeopardize our salvation, in your opinion? It appears, rather than answer a point blank question, you’d much rather keep widening our differences with snappy ‘digs’. :tsktsk:

 

[izoid]

So youve been told by YOUR church. a litle selfserving dont you think?

no really take a minute and think about it honestly…

In revalation there are 7 churches listed that were given, The Spirit speaks to NOT JUST 1! Its worth noting that not one of those churches was in Rome. We are instructed in the Bible to beaware of false teachers and those that claim to be apostles and who are not. In many places believers are exorted to search the scriptures to see if what they were being taught is true. So the Deciples and Paul were not afraid of their teaching being examined in the light of scripture, their teaching did not contradict scripture. and the churches teaching should also not contradict scripture. So when I unight with a church it will be a church that doesnt ask me to believe things that contradict scripture. If you look honestly at RCC history you will see clear evidence that their are periods that had NO Holy Spirit involvement. I beleive your leadership has apologised for events that clearly were not (name removed by moderator)ired by God please correct me if I am wrong about such apologies.

Have you ever been to where these churches were? Are you aware that they were all of the same faith, different locales but same faith? Each parish behaved differently and was reprimanded for it. This in no way validates the protestant denominational model.

BTW…Atlanta was not mentioned either but I am pretty confident that we have churches here.

 

[izoid]

The Church is the body of beleivers who are adopted sons of God through faith in Christ jesus. there are members of that church who are alone in the jungle, in jail cells, they are in babtist churches and pentacostal churches and yes in the RCC! we are unighted not by the teachers who we follow but by our Lord and God who redemed us. We are all hopefuly doing our best to understant our God and His will for our lives.

What about the physical church as a institution?

 

[izoid]

Much of what is believed by concervative non-catholic Christians and catholics are the same: Trinity, virgin birth, Heaven, hell, crucifixion, resurrection, sin, original sin, etc. The big divide comes with you telling us your church is the correct church. Pleas show us the Bible verses that tells us a person won’t be let into Heaven if they don’t accept the CC and the one and only church founded by God?

THis is a false assumption on your part. The Catholic Church does teach what you have said. You have been corrected before and are now being corrected again. Please stop repeating such nonsense.

 

[Dokimas]

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Originally Posted by Dokimas​

Love Mary??? I don’t know her. I highly respect her.

See what I mean…

Does Catholic love for the mother of our Lord, or our belief in her being ever virgin jeopardize our salvation, in your opinion? It appears, rather than answer a point blank question, you’d much rather keep widening our differences with snappy ‘digs’.

It’s quite frustrating communicating with you. I gave a straight forward answer, not snappy, no digs. It’s your response that is a dig.​

I think you’re idea about Mary has little to do with your eternal soul. That being said, I’m not your judge and you’re not my judge. You will stand before God and so will I. You will answer for what you believe and what you did with what you believe; so will I.

 

[Dokimas]

THis is a false assumption on your part. The Catholic Church does teach what you have said. You have been corrected before and are now being corrected again. Please stop repeating such nonsense.

Which part of what I said are you correcting? Remember, we were accused of teaching a false gospel or Christ, understanding things to our own destruction.

 

[izoid]

Which part of what I said are you correcting? Remember, we were accused of teaching a false gospel or Christ.

Much of what is believed by concervative non-catholic Christians and catholics are the same: Trinity, virgin birth, Heaven, hell, crucifixion, resurrection, sin, original sin, etc. The big divide comes with you telling us your church is the correct church. Pleas show us the Bible verses that tells us a person won’t be let into Heaven if they don’t accept the CC and the one and only church founded by God?

The bolded part, that is why it was bolded, to draw attention to it.

 

[izoid]

Which part of what I said are you correcting? Remember, we were accused of teaching a false gospel or Christ, understanding things to our own destruction.

Who accused you of that? I have not seen any of that language in this thread.

 

[Dokimas]

The bolded part, that is why it was bolded, to draw attention to it.

So I’m not believing things to my own destruction or a false gospel?

 

[MyRdmrLvs]

So God wants many seperate Churches?

There are 7 churches in Revalation, they are all apart of the same body of believers who put their faith in Christ Jesus as is reveiled in scripture. Christ is the head of that church.

 

[izoid]

So I’m not believing things to my own destruction or a false gospel?

Why are you making things up? The bolded part of YOUR post says no such thing. I told you that the Catholic Church does not teach what you claimed it id. Go back and read it again.

You are beginning to really remind me of a guy that used to be here, 2ndAdam. He often used the same tactics when he couldn’t answer the question. Twist and deceive.

 

[MyRdmrLvs]

That is the Holy Spirit working through us when we open up through Faith… The book is where we see the words. The Holy Spirit works through our Faith. Our free will gives us the choice to pick up the book or not, our Faith is more important than the book.

Faith is to believe God, the Bible is the word of God, Jesus is the Living word of God, therefor your faith Can not contratict either.

 

[izoid]

Faith is to believe God, the Bible is the word of God, Jesus is the Living word of God, therefor your faith Can not contratict either.

So why do we come to different conclusions even though we both claim to be lead by the Holy Spirit?

 

[MyRdmrLvs]

While growing up as a nominal Protestant, the Bible was a dry and confusing book to me. A story from 2000 years ago. When I met Jesus personally He opened my eyes so I could both read and understand the Bible in a way I never had before. The stories and points in the Bible became *contemporary *and absolutely relevant for me.

Peace

I can so relate to this statement… Thank you Jesus! For me at this time also came a complete transformation of who I was, to who I am today.

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

It’s quite frustrating communicating with you. I gave a straight forward answer, not snappy, no digs. It’s your response that is a dig.​

I think you’re idea about Mary has little to do with your eternal soul. That being said, I’m not your judge and you’re not my judge. You will stand before God and so will I. You will answer for what you believe and what you did with what you believe; so will I.

Actually, you are picking and choosing parts of the discussion to respond too, as well as avoiding direct answers with your veiled attempts to antagonize. It’s also easy to see that you only want to create a deeper separation with self righteous comments. That’s just sad and to be quite honest, I wouldn’t be comfortable with a Church that condoned such behaviour.

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

There are 7 churches in Revalation, they are all apart of the same body of believers who put their faith in Christ Jesus as is reveiled in scripture. Christ is the head of that church.

There are seven locations, ONE Church.

I notice you didn’t respond to Paul’s letter to the Hebrews saluting them from the brethren in Italy, which was in response to your statement about no Church in Rome.

 

[Dokimas]

Why are you making things up? The bolded part of YOUR post says no such thing. I told you that the Catholic Church does not teach what you claimed it id. Go back and read it again.

You are beginning to really remind me of a guy that used to be here, 2ndAdam. He often used the same tactics when he couldn’t answer the question. Twist and deceive.

[SIGN]ProdicalSon1: It’s no worse than questioning our faith, in my honest opinion.

Does the Holy Spirit lie? Does the Holy Spirit contradict Himself? Please explain how the Holy Spirit tells so many different truths, which appears to us to be through private interpretation.

2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction.

Who is the unlearned, wresting scriptures, even to their own destruction and who is interpreting scriptures correctly? [/SIGN]

Doki: Much of what is believed by conservative non-catholic Christians and catholics are the same: Trinity, virgin birth, Heaven, hell, crucifixion, resurrection, sin, original sin, etc. The big divide comes with you telling us your church is the correct church. Pleas show us the Bible verses that tells us a person won’t be let into Heaven if they don’t accept the CC and the one and only church founded by God?

ProdicalSon seemed to say my beliefs was wrestling the Scriptures to my own destruction. Thus my response. It seems you weren’t following my conversation.

 

[Dokimas]

Actually, you are picking and choosing parts of the discussion to respond too, as well as avoiding direct answers with your veiled attempts to antagonize. It’s also easy to see that you only want to create a deeper separation with self righteous comments. That’s just sad and to be quite honest, I wouldn’t be comfortable with a Church that condoned such behaviour.

I have no clue what you are speaking about and it would seem you don’t understand me. I guess we don’t have grounds to communicate, sorry to say.

 

[Dokimas]

Is there documentation that Paul wrote Hebrews? BTW, my guess is that he did, but that’s only my opinion.

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

[SIGN]ProdicalSon1: It’s no worse than questioning our faith, in my honest opinion.

Does the Holy Spirit lie? Does the Holy Spirit contradict Himself? Please explain how the Holy Spirit tells so many different truths, which appears to us to be through private interpretation.

2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction.

Who is the unlearned, wresting scriptures, even to their own destruction and who is interpreting scriptures correctly? [/SIGN]
ProdicalSon seemed to say my beliefs was wrestling the Scriptures to my own destruction. Thus my response. It seems you weren’t following my conversation.

I apologize, but it appears you have misinterpreted my question. Which interpretation should one believe when there are so many different interpretations all claiming guidance of the Holy Spirit? That is not saying your wrong, or right. I am just asking how one discerns the true interpretation?