Why do non catholics dislike Mother Mary?

[Justy90]

It’s not an agenda, but you attacked me with the whole sarcastic post you sent me, remember? I’m being very polite. Trust me. Just because my questions are pointed, direct, and provoke thought doesn’t mean anything about my politeness. It’s not an agenda, but the question has to be asked. Because it’s not that a Protestant doesn’t like Mary, we just don’t believe that she has been given such a position of authority in the life of Christians.

Respectfully,

Chris

They have to come out swinging on this issue becasue the Scriptural text is not in their favor and they know it. Creating doubt is their only chance. Catholics have come up with a thousand counter-responses to each Bible passage that speaks of Joseph not having relations with Mary UNTIL Jesus was born, Mary giving birth to her FIRSTBORN, Jesus, Jesus’ siblings and ALL have fallen short of God’s grace. I was a cradle-Catholic for over 30 years and I have heard all of the end-around avoiding excuse and doubt filled responses to the truth of God’s word.

 

[Justy90]

It is no different. If you ask your pastor to pray for you, are you placing him on a level with Christ? NO, I don’t believe you are. The same as asking Christ’s mother to pray for us does not make her a divinity, even if you try to convince me we believe otherwise.

Does your church call me and you co-mediators with Christ?

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

They have to come out swinging on this issue becasue the Scriptural text is not in their favor and they know it. Creating doubt is their only chance. Catholics have come up with a thousand counter-responses to each Bible passage that speaks of Joseph not having relations with Mary UNTIL Jesus was born, Mary giving birth to her FIRSTBORN, Jesus, Jesus’ siblings and ALL have fallen short of God’s grace. I was a cradle-Catholic for over 30 years and I have heard all of the end-around avoiding excuse and doubt filled responses to the truth of God’s word.

Justy,

We don’t come here to ‘create doubt’. We know and understand our faith quite well.

Making ‘snide, condescending and other ad hominem statements’ do not make the point you’re trying to get across. It actually appears to be a ‘strong dislike’ of the Catholic faith and anyone who is Catholic.

 

[tweetymom]

They have to come out swinging on this issue becasue the Scriptural text is not in their favor and they know it. Creating doubt is their only chance. Catholics have come up with a thousand counter-responses to each Bible passage that speaks of Joseph not having relations with Mary UNTIL Jesus was born, Mary giving birth to her FIRSTBORN, Jesus, Jesus’ siblings and ALL have fallen short of God’s grace. I was a cradle-Catholic for over 30 years and I have heard all of the end-around avoiding excuse and doubt filled responses to the truth of God’s word.

You bet they do:slapfight::stretcher:And this is how they want you carried out lol lol

 

[Justy90]

Justy,

We don’t come here to ‘create doubt’. We know and understand our faith quite well.

Making ‘snide, condescending and other ad hominem statements’ do not make the point you’re trying to get across. It actually appears to be a ‘strong dislike’ of the Catholic faith and anyone who is Catholic.

This is false. You have made an over-sized thread of creating doubt upon the Scriptures. This has nothing to do with who I like or dislike so stop trying to sidetrack.

 

[Justy90]

You bet they do:slapfight::stretcher:And this is how they want you carried out lol lol

It didn’t happen in this thread like it does in all of the others though. This time there were more of us than they counted upon upholding and fighting for the word of God and the truth.

 

[carpentercb]

Prodigal,

You don’t get it do you. Let me repeat the question: Where does the bible say that Mary has the power to hear all those prayers from wherever she may be? She is not omnipresent. Or do you believe she is?

Respectfully,

Chris

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

This is false. You have made an over-sized thread of creating doubt upon the Scriptures. This has nothing to do with who I like or dislike so stop trying to sidetrack.

No side tracking. It’s a difference in interpretation of scriptures, not doubt upon the scriptures. Any honest person could admit that simple little fact.

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

Prodigal,

You don’t get it do you. Let me repeat the question: Where does the bible say that Mary has the power to hear all those prayers from wherever she may be? She is not omnipresent. Or do you believe she is?

Respectfully,

Chris

Maybe you don’t get it. Mary is not a divinity, but as anyone in heaven, I assume, is not bound by human limitations on earth.

Why do you keep attempting to get us to say she is?

PLEASE read through the thread…

 

[carpentercb]

Maybe you don’t get it. Mary is not a divinity, but as anyone in heaven, I assume, is not bound by human limitations on earth.

Why do you keep attempting to get us to say she is?

PLEASE read through the thread…

You assume is exactly correct. The bible gives no inclination that anyone in heaven other than Jesus will bring our case to the Father. This is the Protestants issue with Mary. That she is almost idolized by the Catholic Church.

Respectfully,

Chris

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

Prodigal,

You don’t get it do you. Let me repeat the question: Where does the bible say that Mary has the power to hear all those prayers from wherever she may be? She is not omnipresent. Or do you believe she is?

Respectfully,

Chris

Where does the Bible say ‘Trinity’? Do you believe in the Trinity?

Sola scripturist’s act as if the Bible alone has ALL the answers, yet Christ ministered for 33 years, but the Gospels can be read in a matter of hours. Think about it. There was an oral tradition, scriptures plainly tell us that. Does scriptures say that is all one needs?

 

[Monica4316]

Originally Posted by **Justy90 **
They have to come out swinging on this issue becasue the Scriptural text is not in their favor and they know it. Creating doubt is their only chance. Catholics have come up with a thousand counter-responses to each Bible passage that speaks of Joseph not having relations with Mary UNTIL Jesus was born, Mary giving birth to her FIRSTBORN, Jesus, Jesus’ siblings and ALL have fallen short of God’s grace. I was a cradle-Catholic for over 30 years and I have heard all of the end-around avoiding excuse and doubt filled responses to the truth of God’s word.

If Protestants are so committed to literal interpretations of Scripture, why do you not believe it when Jesus says “My Flesh is real food and My Blood is real drink”? the only argument I hear from Protestants is how He said “do this in remembrance of Me”, but in Greek that word meant not just remembering but actually making something present before you.

what you call counter -responses are actually looking at the *original *wording in the BIble, rather than translations. In the original language, “until” didn’t mean it happened later on, “siblings” meant any relative, etc. It’s looking at Bible passages in context.

 

[Justy90]

No side tracking. It’s a difference in interpretation of scriptures, not doubt upon the scriptures. Any honest person could admit that simple little fact.

No No No. You aren’t interpreting differently, you are dismissing. Let’s get that straight. There are many verses in Scripture that you are dismissing.

 

[tweetymom]

It didn’t happen in this thread like it does in all of the others though. This time there were more of us than they counted upon upholding and fighting for the word of God and the truth.

Praise God for that.

 

[tweetymom]

Where does the Bible say ‘Trinity’? Do you believe in the Trinity?

Sola scripturist’s act as if the Bible alone has ALL the answers, yet Christ ministered for 33 years, but the Gospels can be read in a matter of hours. Think about it. There was an oral tradition, scriptures plainly tell us that. Does scriptures say that is all one needs?

The Bible does have all the answers and I rely on them daily.

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

You assume is exactly correct. The bible gives no inclination that anyone in heaven other than Jesus will bring our case to the Father. This is the Protestants issue with Mary. That she is almost idolized by the Catholic Church.

Respectfully,

Chris

The Protestant’s issue with Mary is what they observe with their eye. Only One can see what’s in anyone’s heart and He is no mere man and He has the RIGHT to judge everyone.

 

[carpentercb]

This thread isn’t about the trinity or any other subjects that seem to branch off and deflect. I believe that there is a Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. We won’t even begin to speak of the veneration of Mary’s image. Let’s save that for another post.

Respectfully,

Chris

 

[Monica4316]

No No No. You aren’t interpreting differently, you are dismissing. Let’s get that straight. There are many verses in Scripture that you are dismissing.

Why do Protestants dismiss these words in Scripture?

James 2
You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless[d]? 21Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”[e] and he was called God’s friend. 24You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone.

John 6
52Then the Jews began to argue sharply among themselves, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?”
53Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in him. 57Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. 58This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your forefathers ate manna and died, but he who feeds on this bread will live forever.”

 

[Justy90]

If Protestants are so committed to literal interpretations of Scripture, why do you not believe it when Jesus says “My Flesh is real food and My Blood is real drink”? the only argument I hear from Protestants is how He said “do this in remembrance of Me”, but in Greek that word meant not just remembering but actually making something present before you.

what you call counter -responses are actually looking at the *original *wording in the BIble, rather than translations. In the original language, “until” didn’t mean it happened later on, “siblings” meant any relative, etc. It’s called looking at Bible passages in context.

You’re wrong. You are stereo-typing me. I never said I believed in a symbolism of the Lord’s Supper. That’s what you think of all Protestants. That’s an abject ignorance of other faiths.

If you wish to look at original Biblical writings, let’s look at how Jesus called Peter Petros but referred to his Church being founded upon Petras. Hmm. Looks like a real difference from what you believe to be true about peter doesn’t it.

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

No No No. You aren’t interpreting differently, you are dismissing. Let’s get that straight. There are many verses in Scripture that you are dismissing.

Let’s get something straight right away. I am not dismissing scriptures, nor am I trying to use ‘snippets’ of the Bible to tell a complete story. These are interpretational differences.

What you seem to be doing now is telling me what I, and every Catholic, believes. Our faith is based on scriptures.