I normally don’t, frankly I don’t know them well enough to put up a decent arguement. I stick to science when I get engaged in religious debate. Normally I argue evolution, global warming or other sciency things the person/people I’m debating with refuse to believe or has a very poor understanding of. In my opinion people can believe whatever they want about religion, just so long as they don’t approach me and start shoving it my face.
I believe you are laboring under a misapprehension. When I use Scripture to discuss a position with a Christian, I am discussing it as the basis for the Christian’s position, not my own. I have seen no compelling evidence that the Christian Scriptures are authoratative for the entire world other than that it says so. I do not believe that I am bound by its strictures. The Christian says that he is, so I expect that there will be some relationship between the Scripture and the position.
Why did Christ use Scripture against the Pharisees?
Do you also use science to disprove religious belief? If so do you believe science has all the answers and the way to arrive at truth? What about Natural Law? Do you recognize the encompassing breadth of Natural Law?
The Catholic Church existed before time. See Ephesians 1: 1-5. She wrote the Scriptures by the power of the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
There are indeed hypocrites everywhere. I wish it weren’t so. I will pray for you. The journey home can be difficult. One of the greatest difficulties is seeing through all of the hypocrites and find the real Lord Jesus who is in the midst of the Church.
They may already have made up their own. It is difficult to tell. In any event, they should not use the Church’s Scrpture to defend their own church’s existence and to attack the real Church. Let them make up their own since they don’t like the Church that wrote the Scriptures in the first place. Either become Catholic and utilize her Scriptures or make up your own Scriptures. But it is hypocritical to use our Scriptures to attack God’s Church.
Are you saying protestants should “make up” scripture? I’m very confused. Scripture is the word of God…their God is your God.
Indeed, why not? And, likewise, why shouldn’t non-Catholics cite Scripture to Catholics?
The Scriptures belonged and belong to Christ. He can do with them as He wishes. Since He formed a Church and inspired that Church to write Scripture it is the Church that has the authority to use that Scripture. Not some interloper.
And I’m sure that the Pharisees were just as surprised to have Christ cite Scripture to them—how DARE he? They were children of Abraham! If you are acting contrary to Scripture–Catholic, Protestant or other–then you should be brought to task by reference to the Scriptural standard. If not, then you don’t have anything to worry about.
What makes you think that only Christ can cite Scripture?
That’s not the point. Jesus was not trying to destroy Judaism. For that matter He used His own Scripture not someone elses.
No one has suggested that you don’t have the right to use it. Reread my original post. You don’t have the right to use the Churches Scripture to try to destroy the Church. If you do you have relinquished your right to use them. The devil has no right to use God’s scriptues to attack God’s people.
At least Christ did not dabble with the OT canon and threw some books He did not like. Foreseeing the coming of Protestants, He even warned that not a single word should be set aside. That’s where the parallels end.
If the Bible in your view is not an accurate historical source, and you don’t believe in its holiness why argue on the use of the bible like an interested party then?