Why do other Christians "hate" Catholics?

[guanophore]

No I don’t, I think your implication that only Catholics are so especially on the opposite side of god is offensive actually.

It is, but don’t be too hard on Cube2, it is clear he has been indoctrinated by a plethora of anti-Catholic and inaccurate information.

My implication is on when one bases his argument on numbers more than on the fundamental truths. I would not wish to offend you or any other person; I dint intend to.

This is a valid point. Those Christians that clung to the Apostolic faith were always in the minority. I hope that you will read the forum rules, Cube2, and that you will continue to come to CAF, so that your many misunderstandings about the Catholic faith can be corrected.

 

[andrewstx]

It is, but don’t be too hard on Cube2, it is clear he has been indoctrinated by a plethora of anti-Catholic and inaccurate information.

This is a valid point. Those Christians that clung to the Apostolic faith were always in the minority. I hope that you will read the forum rules, Cube2, and that you will continue to come to CAF, so that your many misunderstandings about the Catholic faith can be corrected.

Cube seems to be specially influenced by Boetnerrs (sp) ROMAN CATHOLICISM and the book’s incorrect ‘history’.

No one accepted purgatory before the 15th century? Come on, get real.

 

[guanophore]

Cube seems to be specially influenced by Boetnerrs (sp) ROMAN CATHOLICISM and the book’s incorrect ‘history’.

No one accepted purgatory before the 15th century? Come on, get real.

Oh my!

If that is the case, it is worse than I thought! :bigyikes:

 

[paperwight66]

I think in America it is mostly due to mis information, but while I was in Britain a while ago I did hear another good reason, the very same reason why a Catholic cannot hold the office of Prime Minister even today (Why Tony Blair waited until after he finished his term before converting).

Not so. There is nothing to prevent a Catholic being Prime Minister.

 

[Ignatius]

Not so. There is nothing to prevent a Catholic being Prime Minister.

True, in fact, due Succession to the Crown Act passed last year%between%, The King or Queen may even be married to a Roman Catholic.

 

[Tommy999]

In my experience, most protestants do not hate Catholics. They think Catholics are mistaken but they don’t hate them any more than Catholics hate protestants. Most protestants I know don’t even bring up the topic of Catholicism in conversation unless I bring up the subject.

Probably the biggest difference I see is that many evangelical protestant Christians believe a person must have a life-changing salvation encounter with Christ based on faith in Jesus Christ as Savior (the kind of experience that Billy Graham preached in his crusades of being born-again based on John 3:16) when they are of age to understand, believe, decide, and make that decision for themselves.

Therefore, in the eyes of many evangelical Christians, a Catholic (or anyone else for that matter) is a Christian if they have such a personal encounter with Christ. Therefore, the common answer I hear from other protestants is, "A Catholic can be a Christian if he or she accepts Christ as Savior and commits his/her life to Christ and is baptized, but not by just being baptized as an infant.

I apologize if I have mischaracterized anything. I am definitely not a theologian or an apologist.

 

[PRmerger]

Therefore, in the eyes of many evangelical Christians, a Catholic (or anyone else for that matter) is a Christian if they have such a personal encounter with Christ.

Every Catholic who’s ever received the Eucharist ought to be able to answer with a hearty YES! to the above.

There is no more personal encounter with Him than being One Flesh with Him in the Eucharist.

 

[boomerang]

Therefore, in the eyes of many evangelical Christians, a Catholic (or anyone else for that matter) is a Christian if they have such a personal encounter with Christ. Therefore, the common answer I hear from other protestants is, "A Catholic can be a Christian if he or she accepts Christ as Savior and commits his/her life to Christ and is baptized, but not by just being baptized as an infant.

I apologize if I have mischaracterized anything. I am definitely not a theologian or an apologist.

That seems to be what most Protestants (“born again-ers”) think. What kind of bugs me is the assumption on their part that Catholics just don’t know Jesus. Like we have no clue who He is, and we haven’t “accepted” Him as our Savior. Do they think we look at the Crucified Christ up on the wall behind the altar during Mass and think, “Who’s the dead guy?” They accuse us of not having a “personal relationship” with Him. We do have a personal relationship with Him, but He’s not our fishin’ buddy. Their ideas about us have always seemed really bizarre to me, but I’m certain our ideas about them seem bizarre to them, too. Such is life!

 

[Tommy999]

That seems to be what most Protestants (“born again-ers”) think. What kind of bugs me is the assumption on their part that Catholics just don’t know Jesus. Like we have no clue who He is, and we haven’t “accepted” Him as our Savior. Do they think we look at the Crucified Christ up on the wall behind the altar during Mass and think, “Who’s the dead guy?” They accuse us of not having a “personal relationship” with Him. We do have a personal relationship with Him, but He’s not our fishin’ buddy. Their ideas about us have always seemed really bizarre to me, but I’m certain our ideas about them seem bizarre to them, too. Such is life!

I agree with you, boomerang. There are misconceptions on both sides. Most protestants that I know consider Jesus to be their Lord and Savior and not their “fishin’ buddy”. Some protestants believe Catholics worship Mary, the saints, and statues, but I realize that is a distortion. However, it can be perceived that way by people who misunderstand and who have never really encountered an authentic version of the other group and are close-minded.

That is why I enjoy being on CAF, where I can read and hear for myself what Catholics truly believe and where my misconceptions about it can be corrected, and where hopefully I can shed some light on my faith tradition, also, in a respectful and genuine way.

 

[PJM]

=andrewstx;12452402]Cube seems to be specially influenced by Boetnerrs (sp) ROMAN CATHOLICISM and the book’s incorrect ‘history’.

No one accepted purgatory before the 15th century? Come on, get real.

REALLY: what about 2nd. Maccabees 12: 41-46:shrug: HUNDREDS of years before Christ

"Then they all blessed the just judgment of the Lord, who had discovered the things that were hidden. And so betaking themselves to prayers, they besought him, that the sin which had been committed might be forgotten. But the most valiant Judas exhorted the people to keep themselves from sin, forasmuch as they saw before their eyes what had happened, because of the sins of those that were slain. And making a gathering, he sent twelve thousand drachms of silver to Jerusalem for sacrifice to be offered for the sins of the dead, thinking well and religiously concerning the resurrection, For if he had not hoped that they that were slain should rise again, it would have seemed superfluous and vain to pray for the dead,) [And because he considered that they who had fallen asleep with godliness, had great grace laid up for them[/COLOR].

It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins."

God Bless you!
Patrick

 

[guanophore]

Therefore, in the eyes of many evangelical Christians, a Catholic (or anyone else for that matter) is a Christian if they have such a personal encounter with Christ. Therefore, the common answer I hear from other protestants is, "A Catholic can be a Christian if he or she accepts Christ as Savior and commits his/her life to Christ and is baptized, but not by just being baptized as an infant.

Although it is a very narrow view, there is Truth in it. We encounter Christ in this way at Mass in the Eucharaist, and during Mass, make the profession of faith in the Creed that waas made for us in baptism.

A Catholic that does not live out the vows made at their baptism has no advantage over a person who was never baptized. On the contrary, their last state may be worse than their first.

 

[rbarcia]

I’m sure many of you have had some of the same experiences I have regarding many Protestants. I’m not sure what it is that makes them so hateful, judgmental, and rude towards Catholics. What is it? I feel that a lot of it is ignorance about who we really are, but what is their reasoning for their opinions?

This is just you painting yourself as a victim. What type of hatred has protestants shown you? Did someone beat you up, hurt you, through things at you, burn you at the stake.

Not following a doctrine is NOT HATRED. Stating someone does not believe in Rosary praying, Worship of Mary is not hating.

Hating is what radical Muslims do when they kill people. You are just trying to paint yourself as a proud/pretend martyr.

Someone telling you they don’t agree on a doctrine is not hatred.

Save your accusations for people who are actually hating.

 

[schaeffer]

Not following a doctrine is NOT HATRED. Stating someone does not believe in Rosary praying, Worship of Mary is not hating.

Hating is what radical Muslims do when they kill people. You are just trying to paint yourself as a proud/pretend martyr.

Someone telling you they don’t agree on a doctrine is not hatred.

Save your accusations for people who are actually hating.

 

[schaeffer]

My father always says “hate is a strong word”

I’ve seen haters on both sides. People who misrepresent the other side KNOWINGLY, and make disparaging remarks about people who follow a different faith.

In the US, I haven’t seen any actual persecution of one Christian group by another, but I’ve seen mud slinging, rudeness and disrespect.

Some of the arguments seem born of pride. the “I’m going to show you how wrong you are and how right I am!” because one side wants to be able to say “I told you so.”

I’ve also seen arguments where one side feared for the salvation of the other, truly believing that the practices and beliefs of the other side were leading another Christian astray.

Some of these disagreements arise from actual Christian concern…but those too can and sometimes do disintegrate to angry shouting matches.

 

[guanophore]

I suggest an experiential exercise for you and rbarcia. Try a simple role play. Go to carm.org and register as Catholic. Lurk for a while, and agree with Protestant doctrines that are posted, then after you have shown that you are a Christian, begin to espouse some Catholic ideas, like the value of praying the Rosary, ,or the intercession of the saints, or the benefit of the Pope. Then come back and let us know how the exercise fared.

In social science this is a research method also known as behavioral sampling, where one experiements with a behavior or a role to learn the outcome.

 

[schaeffer]

I suggest an experiential exercise for you and rbarcia. Try a simple role play. Go to carm.org and register as Catholic. Lurk for a while, and agree with Protestant doctrines that are posted, then after you have shown that you are a Christian, begin to espouse some Catholic ideas, like the value of praying the Rosary, ,or the intercession of the saints, or the benefit of the Pope. Then come back and let us know how the exercise fared.

In social science this is a research method also known as behavioral sampling, where one experiements with a behavior or a role to learn the outcome.

We can find anyone to hate or love us online, no matter which faith we are.

Believe me, I know.

I thought we were talking about life beyond the net as well.

I was raised in a family that prohibited me from playing with Protestants. Wanna guess which faith that was?

 

[Unsung_Conflux]

Where I’m at its the non denominational’s and the protestants that have a problem with us Catholics, not sure if I would say “hate” but strongly disagrees would be more apt.

 

[schaeffer]

Where I’m at its the non denominational’s and the protestants that have a problem with us Catholics, not sure if I would say “hate” but strongly disagrees would be more apt.

No doubt!

When people get personal, it’s about the individual who gets ugly about it. Ocassionaly a rabid subset).

I’ve lived all over the country and been part of all sorts of faith groups, and rarely did they spend much time or energy hating on other faiths, or talking about them for that matter.

A few did put some steam into that sort of thing, my personal motto and what I taught my kids was to find something you believe in and put your energy towards it, don’t build your life around hating something. So we never hung around.

Unfortunately it happens, and pretty much same % across the board, at least in real life, online way too many hate groups and hate sites.

guanophore mentioned “sampling”, I’m not sure I’d consider a religious discussion board online anything like a accurate sample of Christians.

But I’m not a statistician and I haven’t run the numbers.

 

[spina1953]

Some people hate Catholic’s; mostly fringe groups who are anti-Catholic to start with. This does not by any means say that all Protestants hate Catholic’s. Many do not know what Catholic’s are about or what they believe in exactly, yet they do not hate. I also think it depends on who you or one talks to. In my experience most Protestants don’t have the time to hate Catholic’s or really care one way or the other what Catholic’s believe or don’t believe.

 

[PRmerger]

Stating someone does not believe in , Worship of Mary is not hating.

Indeed. Catholics do not believe in “Worship of Mary”–and I as a Catholic certainly do believe that it’s not hating to say “I don’t believe in Worship of Mary!”