Why do other Christians "hate" Catholics?

[Cube2]

Are you suggesting that Catholics do not read the Bible? I hope that you will hang around here at CAF, so if you have met Catholics of this kind, you will have the opporunity to meet some that do.

The fact that the CC is not “bible based” does not mean that the Scriptures are not a critical component of our faith.

If the CC is not Bible-based, what is it based on?

I do not, but perhaps you are trying to say that it does not matter to you how big and powerful the CC may be, since you believe God is not on the Catholic side?

I said, of paramount importance is the fundamental truths in relation to God.
The citations I gave were a contrast of the two. So, lets put aside the aspect of magnitude and consider the basis of being on God’s side, or God being on your side.

The original use of this term applied to Christians occurred during the Reformation, when Lutherans Protested civil discrimination against their faith. The Latin protestare also means to stand up for, or stand up against other forces. Those who “protested” for their faith were standing up for their right to believe as their conscience directed.

Martin Luther was a catholic priest. He wrote to the Pope himself as he did not have a congregation. His thesis was not about civil rights but about truths found in the bible. The response was not from the civil authorities but from the pope himself and the cardinals.
The reformation then spread out to many countries which were formally 100% catholic.
The reformation was a splitter group which did not want to be associated with the CC teachings.

On the contrary, Cube2, baptismal regeneration, infant baptism, and the real presence are all Apostolic Teachings.

Prove it from the original apostles, or from Jesus’s teaching, or from the OT.

These doctrines were in place before the Bible was written. There was no need to include them in the Bible, because they were accepted everywhere as part of the Apostolic faith that had been handed down through the paradosis.

The OT was initially for the Israelites. The NT, bunded from the OT and spread to the Greeks, Romans and to other parts of the world.
God told Moses to write down Exod17:14: And the LORD said unto Moses, Write this for a memorial in a book, and rehearse it in the ears of Joshua:
Josh1:8: This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night…
Jesus told the Devil, Luk 4:3: And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread. Luk 4:4: And Jesus answered him, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

The apostles wrote to the believers to remind them of what they had taught them. The writings are not so much of a tradition but an affirmation of newness in Christ. Most of the believers scattered were formally pagans with very little knowledge of those traditions.
Even today, we know that if you pass information by word of mouth from one person to another, on the 10th person that information may be very different.

The two are not separated, Cube. Faith in Christ unto salvation was joined to the water of baptism when Christ entered those waters. It was not separated until the Reformation, 1500 years after the Apostles. There are many scriptural references to baptismal regeneration, which is probably beyond the scope of this thread.

Prove it!
I’ll give apostolic citations.
1Pet1:5: Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
Rom 6:4: Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

It is an allusion to it, but no, none of the Catholic doctrines are “based” in Scripture. They were all delivered to the Church by Christ. This is called the divine deposit of faith.

History shows otherwise guanophore,
Literary, Jesus on the cross called his mother woman; John.19:26: When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!
The doctrine of Mary being the Mother of God was not there at the time of Jesus or Mary. So if it was delivered to the church by Christ, then at what time in history?

Purgatory: Jesus told the thief that he would be in paradise. Jesus did not tell him that he would first go to purgatory then to paradise. Thus Jesus did not teach about purgatory.
Transubstantiation: During the 1st ‘mass’, Jesus ate his body and drank his blood? It seems unlikely.
Assumption of Mary: The citation given is Rev. 12.1 The same chapter says the woman went to her place in the wilderness. The OT has nothing that was handed down claiming that Mary went to heaven body and soul.

 

[guanophore]

It was also “that way” that we didn’t read the Bible.

But neither of those would be a correct praxis.

It would not today, but things were very different only a generation ago. Bible reading was NOT encouraged, as private interpretation is seen to be the cause and perpetuation of the heresies of the Reformation.

It was not until after Vat. 2 that the role of laypersons really changed but it was still many decades before one could find at decent Catholic Bible study.

Instead, Catholics were encouraged to go to daily Mass, and to listen to the Scriptures being read.

 

[Sarcelle]

Hi Guanophore: I agree as I remember being in Catholic school and we were not to hang with Protestant kids nor did we sing any Protestant songs. Glad its not that way now but back then in pre Vatican II days it was, maybe not everywhere but it was where I grew up.

I remember growing up and the good Christian kids didn’t play with me because I.waa the atheist kid.

 

[spina1953]

I remember growing up and the good Christian kids didn’t play with me because I.waa the atheist kid.

Hi Sarcelle: Yes, I remember that too. Just glad its not that way now. However, we were never taught to hate those not Catholic.

 

[Gaels]

Other Christians hate Catholics? Huh?

 

[spina1953]

Other Christians hate Catholics? Huh?

Hi Gaels: There are those who call themselves Christians who do hate Catholic’s. I think that they are mostly fringe groups and not so much main stay Christians. As a matter of fact I think that most Protestants don’t hate Catholic’s nor really think about them.