Why do people sing "Morning has broken" in the Church?

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What’s wrong with it?

Cat Stevens only popularized it back in the seventies. It was around before that.

Man, oh, man, I better go put some hot oil on the ends of my hair–this was a hairsplitting thread if ever I saw one! :eek:
 
Its part og the NEW contemporary music. Not as bad as some; but not truly a hymm that raises ones mind, heart and soul to God. IT DOES make you feel good though doesent it?

God bless,
Pat
I didn’t realize that 80 year old hymns were considered ‘contemporary’.
 
Are we leaning on our own understandings of what the song represents? Or of what should and shouldn’t be sung in a Mass? Or of what is a bad idea? 🤷
Probably, since we have abandoned the OT to embrace the modernism, I called that leaning on our own understanding. When OT is abandoned, our own understanding is the substitute.
 
Are you sure it’s Morning Has Broken? We sometimes sing the Breastplate of St. Patrick to the same tune.
I use that second one. Christ Be Beside Me. Can’t get more christocentric than those words.
Probably, since we have abandoned the OT to embrace the modernism, I called that leaning on our own understanding. When OT is abandoned, our own understanding is the substitute.
What is the OT?
 
+This extraordinarly lovely . . . pure and holy . . . world renown hymn . . . is a . . . joyous . . . exquisitely beautiful hymn of . . . praise . . . to our . . . Wonderful Triune God . . . first published in 1931 . . . lyrics by Eleanor Farjeon . . . to the lovely Scottish melody . . . “Bunessan” . . . which was first published in 1900 . . .

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Morning Has Broken

Morning has broken, like the first morning,
Blackbird has spoken, like the first bird.
Praise for the singing, praise for the morning,
Praise for them springing fresh from the Word.

Sweet the rain’s new fall, sunlit from heaven,
Like the first dew fall on the first grass.
Praise for the sweetness of the wet garden,
Sprung in completeness where His Feet pass.

Mine is the sunlight, mine is the morning,
Born of the one light Eden saw play.
Praise with elation, praise every morning,
God’s re-creation of the new day.

Cool the gray clouds roll, peaking the mountains,
Gull in her free flight, swooping the skies.
Praise for the mystery, misting the morning,
Behind the shadow, waiting to shine.

I am the sunrise, warming the heavens,
Spilling my warm glow over the earth.
Praise for the brightness of this new morning,
Filling my spirit with Your great love.

Mine is a turning, mine is a new life,
Mine is a journey closer to You
.
Praise for the sweet glimpse, caught in a moment,
Joy breathing deeply, dancing in flight.
The hymn originally appeared in the second edition of Songs of Praise (published in 1931), to the tune "Bunessan", composed in the Scottish Highlands. In Songs of Praise Discussed, the editor, Percy Dearmer, explains that as there was need for a hymn to give thanks for each day, English poet and children’s author Eleanor Farjeon had been “asked to make a poem to fit the lovely Scottish tune”. A slight variation on the original hymn, also written by Eleanor Farjeon, can be found in the form of a poem contributed to the anthology Children’s Bells, under Farjeon’s new title, “A Morning Song (For the First Day of Spring”, published by Oxford University Press in 1957.
Bunessan” had been found in L. McBean’s Songs and Hymns of the Gael, published in 1900.[3] Before Farjeon’s words, the tune was used as a Christmas Carol, which began “Child in the manger, Infant of Mary”, translated from the Scottish Gaelic lyrics written by Mary MacDonald. The English-language Roman Catholic hymnal also uses the tune for the Charles Stanford hymns “Christ Be Beside Me” and “This Day God Gives Me”, both of which were adapted from the traditional Irish hymn St. Patrick’s Breastplate.
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Probably, since we have abandoned the OT to embrace the modernism, I called that leaning on our own understanding. When OT is abandoned, our own understanding is the substitute.
Are we leaning on our own understandings when we say that the sacred tradition has been abandoned? Did the Apostles really say to never sing an old Gaelic song about God’s creation which will be put to pen in 1931? 🤷

When you talk about the sacred traditions of the Apostles, you are talking about Public Revelation, which also includes Holy Scripture. Are you sure you want to try to claim that the Catholic Church has substituted half of Public Revelation for modernism because of a beautiful song? What about the “modern” music of Johann Christian Bach, composed 1700 years after the Apostles?
 
Maybe Old tradition?
wisdomseeker is using the term “oral tradition” which I take as the sacred traditions of the Apostles, which of course the Church has not and cannot possibly abandon. To claim otherwise is to accuse the Church of unfaithfulness to Christ’s commission.
 
:harp:
Morning Has Broken

Morning has broken, like the first morning,
Blackbird has spoken, like the first bird.
Praise for the singing, praise for the morning,
Praise for them springing fresh from the Word.

Sweet the rain’s new fall, sunlit from heaven,
Like the first dew fall on the first grass.
Praise for the sweetness of the wet garden,
Sprung in completeness where His Feet pass.

Mine is the sunlight, mine is the morning,
Born of the one light Eden saw play.
Praise with elation, praise every morning,
God’s re-creation of the new day.

Cool the gray clouds roll, peaking the mountains,
Gull in her free flight, swooping the skies.
Praise for the mystery, misting the morning,
Behind the shadow, waiting to shine.

I am the sunrise, warming the heavens,
Spilling my warm glow over the earth.
Praise for the brightness of this new morning,
Filling my spirit with Your great love.

Mine is a turning, mine is a new life,
Mine is a journey closer to You
.
Praise for the sweet glimpse, caught in a moment,
Joy breathing deeply, dancing in flight.
Beautiful. Thanks for posting.
 
What’s wrong with it?

Cat Stevens only popularized it back in the seventies. It was around before that.

Man, oh, man, I better go put some hot oil on the ends of my hair–this was a hairsplitting thread if ever I saw one! :eek:
you sarcasm may fit with a discussion about something other than Church. don’t you think?
 
Are we leaning on our own understandings when we say that the sacred tradition has been abandoned? Did the Apostles really say to never sing an old Gaelic song about God’s creation which will be put to pen in 1931? 🤷

When you talk about the sacred traditions of the Apostles, you are talking about Public Revelation, which also includes Holy Scripture. Are you sure you want to try to claim that the Catholic Church has substituted half of Public Revelation for modernism because of a beautiful song? What about the “modern” music of Johann Christian Bach, composed 1700 years after the Apostles?
Please keep it down, would you. I never said the Church. People have pushed their will into the Church. If you cannot see it, than there is no point for you to argue here. This is not about arguing about anything. don’t push your understanding on me. If you are willing to listen and state your position it is fine but I am not here to read your criticism of any kind.
 
LOVE THIS SONG!! 😃

It was our entrance hymn this morning-
the sun was shining through the stained glass,
all the different colors dancing around the altar~
made me appreciate the day,
and appreciate that I was able to go to Mass without threat to my life,
and made me appreciate all the little things that I saw on my walk home.
The birds & butterflies, the blue sky,
the beautiful flowers in bloom in my neighborhood…
How can’t that be bad?🤷

God is good!! 😃
He has graced me with another new day!! :love:
 
Please keep it down, would you. I never said the Church. People have pushed their will into the Church. If you cannot see it, than there is no point for you to argue here. This is not about arguing about anything. don’t push your understanding on me. If you are willing to listen and state your position it is fine but I am not here to read your criticism of any kind.
So the Church selects post-Apostle modernist Gregorian Chants to be placed in the liturgical music books, but some people sneak in and substitute and push their “Morning Has Broken” at the publisher’s when the bishops and liturgical committees aren’t looking? Scandalous! 🤷
 
It reminds me of the Canticle of the Sun by St. Francis, but it reminds me also of the Canticle of the Three Youths, from Daniel 3, which frequently appears in the Liturgy of the Hours. I don’t think it’s about us. It’s a song which praises God, and praises the beauty of His creation. I don’t think it’s theologically objectionable.

It is not to everyone’s taste, musically, but that could be said of anything. I find it very moving. I like it. I like Gregorian Chant. I like the old Victorian hymns. I like all sorts of things, done well. If the Church is truly Catholic, I hope there is room for more than one style of music in it.
 
So the Church selects post-Apostle modernist Gregorian Chants to be placed in the liturgical music books, but some people sneak in and substitute and push their “Morning Has Broken” at the publisher’s when the bishops and liturgical committes aren’t looking? Scandalous! 🤷
Do you know where the Chants come from?
 
Okay, simply personal taste here:

I’m a night owl who likes stargazing
and the hushed beauty of God’s creation of the vastness of space
as seen in His stars, planets, galaxies, nebulae, comets,
meteors, eclipses, northern lights …

I am not a morning person.
I tend to go to Mass either at noon, 12:30 p.m. (early afternoon) or to an evening vigil Mass.

“Morning Has Broken” brings to my mind images of
alarm clocks ringing and jangling me awake
coffee mugs and porcelain teacups crashing to the ground and breaking
before I’ve had a chance to drink the caffeine therein
so now I need to sweep and clean up
instead of enjoying a quieter start to the day.
Why can’t morning come in peacefully rather than breaking?

And while I also very much enjoy birdwatching,
blackbirds speaking instead of singing so early in the morning
might make me wonder if I’m still waking up from
some strange dream.

So no, I am not a huge fan of
“Morning Has Broken.”

:twocents:

:o
 
Do you know where the Chants come from?
. . . :coffeeread: . . .

Gregorian chant is the central tradition of Western plainchant, a form of monophonic liturgical music within Western Christianity that accompanied the **celebration of Mass and other ritual services. It is named after Pope Gregory I, :highprayer: Bishop of Rome from 590 to 604, who is traditionally credited for having ordered the simplification and cataloging of music assigned to specific celebrations in the church calendar. The resulting body of music is the first to be notated in a system ancestral to modern musical notation. In general, the chants were learned by the viva voce method, that is, by following the given example orally, which took many years of experience in the Schola Cantorum. Gregorian chant originated in monastic life, in which celebrating the ‘Divine Office’ eight times a day at the proper hours was upheld according to the Rule of St. Benedict. Singing :harp: psalms made up a large part of the life in a monastic community, while a smaller group and soloists sang the chants.
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:compcoff: Link: ** en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_chants

The religious who follow the Holy Rule of St. Benedict comprise the largest group of religious in the world today . . . they have been entrusted by the Holy See with the sacred mission of the careful preservation of Gregorian Chants within our Holy Mother Church . . .

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. . . :coffeeread: . . .

Gregorian chant is the central tradition of Western plainchant, a form of monophonic liturgical music within Western Christianity that accompanied the celebration of Mass and other ritual services. It is named after Pope Gregory I, :highprayer: Bishop of Rome from 590 to 604, who is traditionally credited for having ordered the simplification and cataloging of music assigned to specific celebrations in the church calendar. The resulting body of music is the first to be notated in a system ancestral to modern musical notation. In general, the chants were learned by the viva voce method, that is, by following the given example orally, which took many years of experience in the Schola Cantorum. Gregorian chant originated in monastic life, in which celebrating the ‘Divine Office’ eight times a day at the proper hours was upheld according to the Rule of St. Benedict. Singing :harp: psalms made up a large part of the life in a monastic community, while a smaller group and soloists sang the chants.
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:compcoff: **Link: ** en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_chants

The religious who follow the Holy Rule of St. Benedict comprise the largest group of religious in the world today . . . they have been entrusted by the Holy See with the sacred mission of the careful preservation of Gregorian Chants within our Holy Mother Church . . .

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No, the Chants originated from the Jews.
 
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