Why do so many Christians love their life in this world?

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Then why does the Church teach that we are obliged to respect and care for THIS creation? This creation is still “good”, as God declared it, even if it is tainted by sin.
The way I see it, there needs to be plenty of people who love this life, and Satan is using them to bring this world, which is now filled with evil, to its completion. But I believe that the true followers of Christ are exempt from loving it.

Celebrant: Do you reject Satan?

Response: I do.

Celebrant: And all his works?

Response: I do.

Celebrant: And all his empty promises?

Response: I do.
 
God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son to save it. How can we not love, for His sake, such a dearly bought prize?

Life is so precious that we are forbidden to take it except in extreme circumstances. The earth is so precious that God’s first task for Adam was to tend it. As the Psalms say, all creation gives praise to God. How, seing His hand in the wonders of nature and His face and genius in those of our fellow man, can we not love these things?
 
Classic example:

Have you ever been to a funeral? Look around and you can tell who has faith and who doesn’t. If someone thinks its the end of the world when their loved one dies and hysterically cries like its the end of the world. They have no faith in the Resurrection and faith in life after death.
Jesus wept when Lazarus died.
When Jesus saw her weeping and the Jews who had come with her weeping, he became perturbed and deeply troubled, and said, “Where have you laid him?” They said to him, “Sir, come and see.” And Jesus wept.
So the Jews said, “See how he loved him.”
John 11:33-36
Weeping does not necessarily mean one has no faith.
 
“Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life.”
-John 12:25

Are they cafeteria Christians who pick and choose which passages of scripture to accept, or do they have a rational reason for not believing John 12:25? Is there any passage of scripture that overrides this one?
Are you saying that all Catholics and non-Catholic Christians should spend their lives on Earth being miserable???
This is another of your same theme threads where you maintain we should not watch and enjoy movies, not participate in or enjoy watching sports, not watch tv, not enjoy holidays with the family etc etc etc.
Do not tell us what we should be doing.
 
I’m not sure about hating your parents, but when it come to loving our parents or loving Christ, we must be willing to forgo our parents. As for hating the world, we should definitely hate our living in a world that contains so much evil, until the Second Coming of Christ when all the evil will be eliminated.Then, and only then, should we fully love the world.
Think you are getting closer. You are qualifying this “hate”. Putting it in a special context of competition with Christ, which is rare.
 
Are you saying that all Catholics and non-Catholic Christians should spend their lives on Earth being miserable???
This is another of your same theme threads where you maintain we should not watch and enjoy movies, not participate in or enjoy watching sports, not watch tv, not enjoy holidays with the family etc etc etc.
Do not tell us what we should be doing.
It’s not me who invented this passage of scripture, but Christ! Again, there are many other similar quotes, such as Hail Holy Queen from the Holy Rosary. Ridiculing me does absolutely nothing to address these important quotes. I’m not saying that we should be miserable, but that we try to avoid materialism as best as we can and that we experience great joy about the salvation of our soul and our someday experiencing the eternal joy in Heaven.
 
In reading scripture we must be careful always to understand such verses correctly as the Church understands them…
 
It’s not me who invented this passage of scripture, but Christ! Again, there are many other similar quotes, such as Hail Holy Queen from the Holy Rosary. Ridiculing me does absolutely nothing to address these important quotes. I’m not saying that we should be miserable, but that we try to avoid materialism as best as we can and that we experience great joy about the salvation of our soul and our someday experiencing the eternal joy in Heaven.
What is “The World” Jesus is talking about? It is the world of the flesh as war with the spirit. I think you are on to something. It is materialism, selfishness, me first. It is everything antithesis to the common love and compassion that is at the heart of his teachings. Jesus does not want us to hate our lives. He gave them to us.
 
I’m healthy, have a good job, and live in a First World country with indoor plumbing - what’s not to love?
 
“What the Lord says of himself here in this Christological parable is applied to us in two other verses: “He who loves his life loses it, and he who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life” (v. 25). I think that when we first hear this we do not like it. We would like to say to the Lord: “But what are you telling us, Lord? Must we even hate our life? Isn’t our life a gift of God? Haven’t we been created in his image and likeness? Shouldn’t we be grateful and glad that he has given us life?”. However, Jesus’ words have another meaning. Of course the Lord has given us life and we are grateful for this. Gratitude and joy are fundamental attitudes of Christian life. Yes, we can be happy because we know that each of our lives comes from God. It is not a chance without meaning. I am wanted and loved. When Jesus says we must hate our life he means quite the opposite. He is thinking here of two fundamental attitudes. One is the attitude of wanting to keep my life selfishly, which is why I consider my life as my own property; I consider myself as my own property, which is why I want to make the very most of this life so as to live a full life, living for myself. Whoever does this, whoever lives for himself and thinks of and desires only himself, does not find himself but is lost. What the Lord tells us is precisely the opposite: not seizing life but giving it. And it is not that in seizing life for ourselves that we receive it, but in giving it, in going beyond ourselves not in looking at ourselves but rather in giving ourselves to the other in the humility of love, giving our life to him and to others. Thus we become rich, distancing ourselves from ourselves, freeing ourselves from ourselves. It is by giving, and not by seizing life that we truly receive life.”

~ Pope Benedict XVI

w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/speeches/2010/march/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20100314_christuskirche.html
 
“Dear brothers and sisters, this is the demanding way of the Cross that Jesus points out to all his disciples. On several occasions he said, “If anyone wants to serve me, let him follow me”. There is no alternative for the Christian who wishes to fulfil his vocation. It is the “law” of the Cross, described with the image of the grain of wheat that dies in order that new life may germinate; it is the “logic” of the Cross, recalled also in today’s Gospel: “He who loves his life loses it, and he who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life”. “To hate” one’s life is a strong and paradoxical Semitic expression that clearly emphasizes the radical totality which must distinguish those who follow Christ and, out of love for him, put themselves at the service of their brethren. They lose their life and thus find it. There is no other way to experience the joy and the true fruitfulness of Love: the way of giving oneself, of self-giving, of losing oneself in order to find oneself.”

~ Pope Benedict XVI

w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/homilies/2009/documents/hf_ben-xvi_hom_20090329_magliana.html****
 
“What the Lord says of himself here in this Christological parable is applied to us in two other verses: “He who loves his life loses it, and he who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life” (v. 25). I think that when we first hear this we do not like it. We would like to say to the Lord: “But what are you telling us, Lord? Must we even hate our life? Isn’t our life a gift of God? Haven’t we been created in his image and likeness? Shouldn’t we be grateful and glad that he has given us life?”. However, Jesus’ words have another meaning. Of course the Lord has given us life and we are grateful for this. Gratitude and joy are fundamental attitudes of Christian life. Yes, we can be happy because we know that each of our lives comes from God. It is not a chance without meaning. I am wanted and loved. When Jesus says we must hate our life he means quite the opposite. He is thinking here of two fundamental attitudes. One is the attitude of wanting to keep my life selfishly, which is why I consider my life as my own property; I consider myself as my own property, which is why I want to make the very most of this life so as to live a full life, living for myself. Whoever does this, whoever lives for himself and thinks of and desires only himself, does not find himself but is lost. What the Lord tells us is precisely the opposite: not seizing life but giving it. And it is not that in seizing life for ourselves that we receive it, but in giving it, in going beyond ourselves not in looking at ourselves but rather in giving ourselves to the other in the humility of love, giving our life to him and to others. Thus we become rich, distancing ourselves from ourselves, freeing ourselves from ourselves. It is by giving, and not by seizing life that we truly receive life.”

~ Pope Benedict XVI

w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/speeches/2010/march/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20100314_christuskirche.html
 
“What the Lord says of himself here in this Christological parable is applied to us in two other verses: “He who loves his life loses it, and he who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life” (v. 25). I think that when we first hear this we do not like it. We would like to say to the Lord: “But what are you telling us, Lord? Must we even hate our life? Isn’t our life a gift of God? Haven’t we been created in his image and likeness? Shouldn’t we be grateful and glad that he has given us life?”. However, Jesus’ words have another meaning. Of course the Lord has given us life and we are grateful for this. Gratitude and joy are fundamental attitudes of Christian life. Yes, we can be happy because we know that each of our lives comes from God. It is not a chance without meaning. I am wanted and loved. When Jesus says we must hate our life he means quite the opposite. He is thinking here of two fundamental attitudes. One is the attitude of wanting to keep my life selfishly, which is why I consider my life as my own property; I consider myself as my own property, which is why I want to make the very most of this life so as to live a full life, living for myself. Whoever does this, whoever lives for himself and thinks of and desires only himself, does not find himself but is lost. What the Lord tells us is precisely the opposite: not seizing life but giving it. And it is not that in seizing life for ourselves that we receive it, but in giving it, in going beyond ourselves not in looking at ourselves but rather in giving ourselves to the other in the humility of love, giving our life to him and to others. Thus we become rich, distancing ourselves from ourselves, freeing ourselves from ourselves. It is by giving, and not by seizing life that we truly receive life.”

~ Pope Benedict XVI

w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/speeches/2010/march/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20100314_christuskirche.html
Then try intrepreting the following:

“Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death?” Romans‬ ‭7:24‬

*"The death of the just: Death will reach everyone, the good and the bad; but the destiny of each one is quite different. The just man sees himself in this valley of tears as a prisoner, serving a very hard term. He considers himself a slave in this world, suffering an extremely distressing servitude. He regards himself a sailor caught in a horrible storm. And as death means an end of his confinement, an end of his slavery, and is the port of his salvation, he ceases not to cry with David, ‘Woe is me that my sojourning is prolonged!’ (Ps. 119:5)… He ceases not to ask with the Apostle’… Who shall deliver me from the body of this death? (Rom. 7:24)”
-The Golden Key to Heaven, by Saint Anthony Mary Claret *

*Hail, holy Queen, Mother of mercy, our life, our sweetness and our hope. To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve. To thee to we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears. Turn, then, most gracious advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us, and after this, our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary.

V. Pray for us, O holy Mother of God. R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.*

“Love not the world, nor the things which are in the world. If any man loves the world, the charity of the Father is not in him.”
-1 John 2:15


*“The inner life of man is greatly hindered in this life by the needs of the body. Thus, the Prophet devoutly prays that he may be set free from them, saying, “Lord, deliver me from my necessities!” Woe to those who refuse to recognize their own wretchedness, and doubly woe to those who love this miserable and corruptible life! For some cling so closely to it, that although by working or begging they can hardly win the bare necessities, they would yet be willing to live here for ever if it were possible, caring nothing for the Kingdom of God.”
  • The Imitation of Christ *
I can go on and on here, but it seems very clear that we are to experience great joy and pleasure at the thought of the salvation of our soul and our subsequent eternal life in Heaven, but as for loving this life with so much evil, I do not think so.
 
Then try intrepreting the following:
Everything must be understood correctly and in the right context.

I do not have time to go through this or that example of this or that language. Each must be taken in the right sense.

I good thing to do is to purchase some good Catholic Commentaries on Sacred Scripture (Ignatius, Navarre, and the Catholic Commentary on Sacred Scripture which is in the works right now).
I can go on and on here, but it seems very clear that we are to experience great joy and pleasure at the thought of the salvation of our soul and our subsequent eternal life in Heaven, but as for loving this life with so much evil, I do not think so.
Yes one of course we look forward to Heaven and to the Resurrection and the New Heavens and New Earth!

As for the second part there - one must understand those verses as the Church understands them and in the right sense. Love the good in life - but yes do not love the evil.

I suggest reading again those two quotes from Pope Benedict XVI where he explains what is meant … Take them to prayer and meditation.
 
“Dear brothers and sisters, this is the demanding way of the Cross that Jesus points out to all his disciples. On several occasions he said, “If anyone wants to serve me, let him follow me”. There is no alternative for the Christian who wishes to fulfil his vocation. It is the “law” of the Cross, described with the image of the grain of wheat that dies in order that new life may germinate; it is the “logic” of the Cross, recalled also in today’s Gospel: “He who loves his life loses it, and he who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life”. “To hate” one’s life is a strong and paradoxical Semitic expression that clearly emphasizes the radical totality which must distinguish those who follow Christ and, out of love for him, put themselves at the service of their brethren. They lose their life and thus find it. There is no other way to experience the joy and the true fruitfulness of Love: the way of giving oneself, of self-giving, of losing oneself in order to find oneself.”

~ Pope Benedict XVI

w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/homilies/2009/documents/hf_ben-xvi_hom_20090329_magliana.html****
Also this one - do not miss it.
 
Everything must be understood correctly and in the right context.

I do not have time to go through this or that example of this or that language. Each must be taken in the right sense.

I good thing to do is to purchase some good Catholic Commentaries on Sacred Scripture (Ignatius, Navarre, and the Catholic Commentary on Sacred Scripture which is in the works right now).

Yes one of course we look forward to Heaven and to the Resurrection and the New Heavens and New Earth!

As for the second part there - one must understand those verses as the Church understands them and in the right sense. Love the good in life - but yes do not love the evil.

I suggest reading again those two quotes from Pope Benedict XVI where he explains what is meant … Take them to prayer and meditation.
It would be a total absurdity to take all the quotes I provided and reinterpret them into a rosy view of our life in this world which everyone knows full well contains so much evil. Yes, our world contains good as well, but good so heavily tainted with evil, is evil!
 
The Imitation of Christ is not an authoritative guidebook binding on everyone in the church. The only authoritative guide that Catholics must follow is the Magisterium.

Thomas A Kempis was a member of the Brethren of the Common Life, a group founded by followers of William of Ockham, who was excommunicated and never recanted, and whose nominalist philosophy may have done more damage to the church than anyone since Peter Abelard. I’m not saying Kempis is a heretic or his book has no value, but we need to keep everything in context and above all, trust and obey the Magisterium.
 
Satan has successfully seduced many christians today into living for the world instead of for God. Its why many christians will put their secular lives ahead of their religious beliefs, even if the two contradict each other, they will either try to find something to justify continuing doing what they like and enjoy or just say revert back to ‘just doing what everyone else is’. I can honestly say many of christians I know personally would never put their secular quality of life at risk in defense of their beliefs, I have talked to many of my friends about this, its staggering how many put mans laws first.

Jesus told us the world would hate us, would persecute us, etc…funny though, I do not see any of that going on around here, the secular community seems to love the churches here…that is a good indicator that something is very wrong imo.
 
“Love not the world, nor the things which are in the world. If any man loves the world, the charity of the Father is not in him.”
-1 John 2:15
Again one must understand the sense that the terms are used there by the author.

And what is* not* meant…

The Authors of the Sacred Scriptures use the term “world” in various senses…

God so *Loved *the World…

As noted above good and sound commentaries (see above) can be of great help in understanding the different senses that are intended. And what is not intended.
 
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