Why do so many protestants not consider church attendance an important part of their faith?

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Are you certain that’s the official Catholic position?

Curiously,
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Easter Sunday is the most important Sunday of the year, and every Sunday and Solemnity is to be considered like a “little Easter,” in honour of Christ’s Resurrection. In the same way, Good Friday is the most important Friday of the year, and every other Friday is to be considered like a little “Good Friday”. We remember the sacrifice of Christ on the Cross with small sacrifices, called “penances,” of our own, in particular, abstinence from flesh meat (because Christ gave up His flesh for us).
 
it seems more and more are becoming “unchurchers” if you will - believing that regular church attendance might even be harmful. They want to do a home church. Believing quite literally that where three gather, there goes the Lord. I’m not even sure how to approach those beliefs; they certainly don’t seem in line with the Bible.
Hebrews 10:
23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful.
24 And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works,
25 not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.
 
And Jesus was often outside, specific buildings were not important - it was the message that mattered.
Well, yes, certainly The Message matters. But Jesus’ message that we must love one another, turn the other cheek, feed the hungry, etc was not revolutionary. Every morally sane person living already knew that.

What we as Catholics participate in at church is the *Holy Sacrifice of Christ on Calvary. *

We don’t go to Mass, really, to get taught.
Who is anyone to say what God will or will not find acceptable? I’d think you’d just be happy people are trying to find God and be spiritual - do they absolutely have to do it your way?
Why wouldn’t one want to worship God in the way in which He has revealed He should be worshipped? Isn’t it the height of arrogance to say, “I’m going to do it my way, not God’s way!”
 
The first precept of the Church is to attend Mass on Sundays and Holy Days of obligation. Every Sunday is in fact a holy day of obligation, on which Mass attendance is required.
 
MIck,

I am drawing from the Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy, approved unanimously by “Paul, Bishop, Servant of the Servants of God, together with the Fathers of the Council”, and promulgated on December 4, 1963, Ch. 5, ‘Liturgical Year’, #102-7, including an insight into traditional customs and local conditions to reflect the universal nature of the Church, and the complexity in administrating it ( 107).

The foundation of Catholicism is that Jesus Christ preached, healed, suffered, crucified and died for us and rose on the third day. Our faith is centered on Him.
  1. The Church is conscious that it must celebrate the saving work of the divine Bridegroom by devoutly recalling it on certain days throughout the course of the year. Every week, on the day which the Church has called the Lord’s Day, it keeps the memory of the Lord’s resurrection, which it also celebrates once a year, together with his blessed passion, in the most solemn festival of Easter.
Within the cycle of a year, moreover, the Church unfolds the whole mystery of Christ, from his incarnation and birth until his ascension, the day of Pentecost, and the expectation of blessed hope and of the Lord’s return. (Our liturgical year ends on Christ the King, and then the new year begins with Advent.)

Recalling thus the mysteries of redemption, the Church opens to the faithful the riches of the Lord’s powers and merits, so that there are in some way made present in every age in order that the faithful may lay hold on them and be filled with saving grace.
  1. In celebrating this annual cycle of Christ’s mysteries, the Church honors with a special love Mary, the Mother of God, who is joined by an inseparable bond to the saving work of her Son. In her the Church holds up and admires the most excellent effect of the redemption and joyfully contemplates, as in a flawless image, that which the Church itself desires and hopes wholly to be.
  2. The Church has also included in the annual cycle days devoted to the memory of the martyrs and other saints. Raised up to perfection by the manifold grace of God and already in possession of eternal salvation, they sing God’s perfect praise in heaven and offer prayers for us. By celebrating their passage from earth to heaven the Churh proclaims the paschal mystery achieved in the saints, who have suffered and been glorified with Christ; it proposes them to the faithful as examples drawing all to the Father through Christ and pleads through their merits for God’s favors.
  3. Finally, in the various seasons of the year and according to its traditional discipline, the Church completes the formation of the faithful by means of devout practices for soul and body, by instruction, prayer, and works of penance and of mercy.

    Accordingly the sacred Council has seen fit to decree what follows.
  4. By a tradition handed down by the apostles and having its origin from the very day of Christ’s resurrection, the Church celebrates the paschal mystery every eighth day, which, with good reason, bears the name of the Lord’s Day or Sunday. For on this day, Christ’s faithful must gather together so that, by hearing the word of God and taking part in the Eucharist, they may call to mind the passion, the resurrection, and the glorification of the Lord Jesus and may thank God, who “has begotten them again unto a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Pt. 1:3). Hence the Lord’s Day is the first holy day of all and should be proposed to the devotion of the faithful and taught to them in such a way that it may become in fact a day of joy and of freedom from work. Other celebrations, unless they be truly of greatest importance, shall not have precedence over the Sunday, the foundation and core of the whole liturgical year.
(107. The liturgical year is to be so revised that the traditional customs and usages of the sacred seasons are preserved or restored to suit the conditions of modern times; their specific character is to be retained, so that they duly nourish the devotion of the faithful who celebrate the mysteries of Christian redemption and above all, the paschal mystery. If certain adaptions are considered necessary on account of local conditions, they are to be made in accordance with the provisions of art. 39 and 40.)

We have the great Tradition and the Holy Spirit’s interpretation of the wholeness of Scripture to verify as well we are universal in character, and we also have the small ‘t’ traditions that change and adopt with the times and various cultures.
 
With this initial introduction into some aspects of the Constitution of the Liturgy, it is hoped it gives you a perspective on the profound mystery and work of the Mass and how necessary it is for us to receive and live through its benefits.

As a Church at Mass, we go forward together in our journey to our final home with the Lord, the first step into heaven being the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass as Christ as atonement for sin.
 
This mentality is exactly what we are talking about. Since you ask, I assume that you were expecting a different answer, because, no, it is not just a house of worship, nor is that it’s primary purpose. It is a dwelling place, a sacrificing altar, a temple, and to understand a church’s role, you must understand the role of the Temple of Jerusalem.

It’s all about the Eucharist. Christians who believe in True Presence have a desire be in communion with Our Lord on a regular basis, and recongnize when the need to return for more. Churches with a liturgical tradition are able to maintain this, because they remember that a convenant with God always has an outward sign. Prayer and worship acompany The Sacrifice. They cannot replace it, and if “home worshippers” really believed in the laying of hands as told in the Acts and Paul’s Letters (which is not the same thing as baptism), then they would never attempt to do this on their own. As for the “fancy” church, the House of The Lord must always be the most grand of all within a community, because Christ is King, and our sacrifices to Him must be from among our best, not simply from what we think we can spare. That’s not to say a Mass can’t happen elsewhere, but that should be the exception to be used only if necessary, not the norm.
No I expected this kind of answer. I don’t have a problem if you or anyone who wants to worship in the kind of church you do, but I find nowhere that says you MUST worship in a church building. Jesus went to the temple to teach and he preached to his followers outside in the wilderness. No sacrificing altar and no temple but outside in the open. What Christians who desire the True presents and the desire to be in communion with our Lord on a regular basis can’t do it in a house? Isn’t our Lord always with us no matter where we are. I don’t recall seeing anywhere that God said he is only present in a “church.” Who says they do it on their own, there could be a preacher present. I have seen priests give the Euchrist outside of the “church” building. As far as the fancy chuch. Jesus was born in a “barn” a “stable” a “cave” and was laid in a “feeding trough” a place where animals lived and ate. He did not come as a wealthy king, born in a castle. So I really don’t think that God really cares if you worship him in a fancy, dolled up, church. We are to give him our best when we praise and worship him. Not to impress him with a building that has all kind of pictures, statues, gold, and such. These kind of places only impress man, not God. What about a poor neighborhood? What if the only place they have to worship God is in a house or a building that is pretty much a dump. Are they worshiping God less because its not in a fancy building? Just because they worship him in that kind of setting, does God say, Its not good enough for me to come and be with you while you worship? When the lady gave the last of her money, what did Jesus say? She has given more than any of you. So to say you must only worship God in a fancy church gives you no more grace from God than those who worship him in a house or where ever they can.
 
No I expected this kind of answer. I don’t have a problem if you or anyone who wants to worship in the kind of church you do, but I find nowhere that says you MUST worship in a church building. Jesus went to the temple to teach and he preached to his followers outside in the wilderness. No sacrificing altar and no temple but outside in the open. What Christians who desire the True presents and the desire to be in communion with our Lord on a regular basis can’t do it in a house? Isn’t our Lord always with us no matter where we are. I don’t recall seeing anywhere that God said he is only present in a “church.” Who says they do it on their own, there could be a preacher present. I have seen priests give the Euchrist outside of the “church” building. As far as the fancy chuch. Jesus was born in a “barn” a “stable” a “cave” and was laid in a “feeding trough” a place where animals lived and ate. He did not come as a wealthy king, born in a castle. So I really don’t think that God really cares if you worship him in a fancy, dolled up, church. We are to give him our best when we praise and worship him. Not to impress him with a building that has all kind of pictures, statues, gold, and such. These kind of places only impress man, not God. What about a poor neighborhood? What if the only place they have to worship God is in a house or a building that is pretty much a dump. Are they worshiping God less because its not in a fancy building? Just because they worship him in that kind of setting, does God say, Its not good enough for me to come and be with you while you worship? When the lady gave the last of her money, what did Jesus say? She has given more than any of you. So to say you must only worship God in a fancy church gives you no more grace from God than those who worship him in a house or where ever they can.
NT believers met whereever. They met in homes, by seas and rivers, on mountain sides, in city streets. At least that’s the impression I get as I read the NT.
 
Some people at work say they don’t like organized religion or being told what to do. Many do not like the offering or the concept of giving to an organization.

God Bless You All
 
Grace works through nature. We are to pray unceasingly before the Lord. We can praise and worship Him any place as well.
 
NT believers met whereever. They met in homes, by seas and rivers, on mountain sides, in city streets. At least that’s the impression I get as I read the NT.
Yes. Christians can and do meet in a multitude of places and encounter Christ in the Sacred Scriptures, in the testimonies and witness of their brethren, in the beauty of a lake, or in the solitude of a mountain retreat.

However, there is only one place where God meets man truly, substantially, in all of His Divinity–at the Mass. He is present in Body. Physically present.

Think of the difference between chatting with someone here on the CAFs, and being physically, truly present with your Beloved, in the same room. The former is what you’re describing when Christians meet in homes, by seas and rivers… The latter is what Catholics have at the Mass.
 
Yes. Christians can and do meet in a multitude of places and encounter Christ in the Sacred Scriptures, in the testimonies and witness of their brethren, in the beauty of a lake, or in the solitude of a mountain retreat.

However, there is only one place where God meets man truly, substantially, in all of His Divinity–at the Mass. He is present in Body. Physically present. So your saying that God only truly meets man in a church setting? That God will not meet man truly outside of the church setting? God is only present at the Mass in a church setting in a building? That God is only present in Body Physically present in a church setting in a building? Do you really thing God is so self-centered that he will only be truly present in all of His Divinity if it is only in a beautiful church? That God can’t be present in all of His Divinity outside, in a house, by a lake, by a mountain, in the woods?

Think of the difference between chatting with someone here on the CAFs, and being physically, truly present with your Beloved, in the same room. The former is what you’re describing when Christians meet in homes, by seas and rivers… The latter is what Catholics have at the Mass.
Where does it say that Mass can only be in a church building? A Mass can be anywhere.
 
Yes. Christians can and do meet in a multitude of places and encounter Christ in the Sacred Scriptures, in the testimonies and witness of their brethren, in the beauty of a lake, or in the solitude of a mountain retreat.

However, there is only one place where God meets man truly, substantially, in all of His Divinity–at the Mass. He is present in Body. Physically present.

Think of the difference between chatting with someone here on the CAFs, and being physically, truly present with your Beloved, in the same room. The former is what you’re describing when Christians meet in homes, by seas and rivers… The latter is what Catholics have at the Mass.
Jesus said as recorded in:

Matthew 18:20 “For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them.”
 
Jesus said as recorded in:

Matthew 18:20 “For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them.”
This is a beautiful verse… one of my favorites…👍

God Bless You…
 
Jesus said as recorded in:

Matthew 18:20 “For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them.”
Yes, dear Dokimas. Jesus is present when 2 Christians are gathered together–just like you are present to me here on the CAFs.

But he is not physically present, body, blood, soul and divinity at any Christian gathering. Only at the Mass is He present, in the same way that you and your Beloved are physically present to each other.
 
Yes, dear Dokimas. Jesus is present when 2 Christians are gathered together–just like you are present to me here on the CAFs.

But he is not physically present, body, blood, soul and divinity at any Christian gathering. Only at the Mass is He present, in the same way that you and your Beloved are physically present to each other.
Amen…👍
 
RevKev,

You really should get a copy of the Vatican II documents on the Liturgy. There is a great work to maintain the integrity of the sacred of the Mass as well as the message and truth of Jesus Christ being communicated to the given culture. I mean, different people see different messages, and there is alot of work put into liturgy to make sure the people understand the truth of Jesus Christ in His entirety.

There are norms of where the Mass can be said. I do not believe the Mass can be said in the open because of natural elements…someone may correct me…I can do more checking up on that. It can and has been said in barns, prisons, bedrooms, cellars, etc.

I mean, if it is breezy, a consecrated host may slip out…the remains of Christ must be protected and venerated in the Eucharistic sacrament…people who do not believe the Lord is present in the host are not to receive because it IS Him…this is a sacrilege…and was the main issue of people receiving Him in Spain before the Inquisition.

There has been much work also done on the sacredness of the Eucharist and the ramifications on those who are very casual in the handling of the sacrament. After Mass, the consecrated wine, which is the Blood of Christ is also properly disposed of…usually the priest and ministers will finish the sacrament.

So it all depends where…again it is to protect the Eucharist/host.
 
it seems more and more are becoming “unchurchers” if you will - believing that regular church attendance might even be harmful. They want to do a home church. Believing quite literally that where three gather, there goes the Lord. I’m not even sure how to approach those beliefs; they certainly don’t seem in line with the Bible.
I like the reply I get from both Catholic and protestant…that they can commune with God in nature and don’t have to go to church. Well, for one thing, if they actually believe that, then they are not Christian at all but animists - that souls, spirits, even God exists in plants, rocks, trees, animals, natural phenomena such as thunder, lightning, earthquakes, rain, sunshine, etc. As such, they are apostates to the Faith.

Christ said that “Where two or more are gathered, there I am in the midst of them.” This goes for proper worship of God too.
 
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