Why do some Catholics have a problem with Pope Francis?

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I personally don’t get it why…
Maybe it’s because he offers new way to approach the faith?
Some said he’s a leftist pope, and that the Church has been hijacked.
 
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Probably because he’s been grouped into the leftist agenda, based upon opinions on his thoughts, views and gestures of support.

He’s massively anti-trump, popular with celebs and Islam and that doesn’t sit well with the hard right.

So it’s somewhat of a polarising situation.

Since Trumps ‘state of the union’, it seems it’s open season on the right wing calling out celebrities and other personalities, we are even getting it here in our news courtesy of people like Piers Morgan.

The Pope just received a massive barrage of abuse in London reference this. As far as the Archbishop was concerned, Trump meeting the Pope a while back was like an epic stand off between good and evil,

It’s all becoming rather ‘global’. Us vs them.

Quite bizarre.
 
I neither dislike Pope Francis nor I am thrilled about him. I just find what he says makes me face palm a lot and plenty of people feel the same. I think we have been spoiled by having such excellent popes like John Paul the Great and Benedict XVI that we may have unusually high expectations of the papacy.
 
Why? Because too many people get their information about what Pope Francis says from very biased sources.

Pope Francis is just as “Catholic” as JPII and Benedict were.
His focus though, is more on the “pastoral side” of things, which makes sense considering where he is from.
 
People fail to make a distinction between the Pope leading his clergy and the Pope talking to laypeople who are generally uninformed.
My Theology profs used to say : If religious people are attacking you, you know you are upsetting the devil.
 
Hate is a strong word. I don’t know any serious Catholics who claim to, or demonstrate, “hate” Pope Francis.

There seems to be a noticeable decline in orthodoxy coupled with a lack of clarification on certain issues these days. Pray for the Supreme Pontif and the life of the Church.

That’s really offensive and ignorant, considering nothing about the Traditionalist movement even closely resembles heresy. How would you like it if I called you a clown-masser? Most “Rad-Trads” are simply Catholics with an affinity for the completely legitimate TLM. Most Trads try to live their life in accord with the entire Tradition of the Church withouth throwing every pre-Vatican II baby out with the bathwater.
 
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Agreed. I don’t hate the Pope and am sure he means well, but he just doesn’t seem to either understand what the role of the Pope is or, if he does, he’s not very good at doing it. I would be terrible at it too, but other men have done a much better job at it. He’s also not the first to be very good at it. I don’t think there’s anything wrong about saying so. His job is to serve the unity of the Church in faith and hierarchical communion. Unfortunately, some of his decisions have instead caused more divisions in both faith (with regard to the sacrament of marriage and the 6th commandment especially) and hierarchical charity (we have bishop against bishop and Cardinal against Cardinal moreso than in a long time–decisions with regard to China being the latest controversy…).

He tends to give good homilies and be personable with regular people (if not his subordinates), so he’d probably make a good small town parish priest.
 
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The whole amoris laetitia thing didn’t do a lot of good…decentralization of the Church…and the possibility of married priests…Other than that, a lot of information comes from questionable sources so I tend to just throw it out. But those are the three reasons that I wish didn’t exist. He is the pope, though, and respect for him is so very important.
 
I certainly don’t hate him. He’s the pope, and I respect him and pray for him as he guides the Church.

That said, he confuses me. I became Catholic at Easter 2002, amid the sex abuse scandal that seemed to worsen with every day during Lent. I did not regret that choice. But now… I worry for my Church, and I worry for my children. There’s so much confusion in the Church nowadays and so many people are using Pope Francis as an excuse to completely defy the Church’s teachings and sow more confusion.

Our bishop is a good man. Our priests are good men. The religion teachers at my children’s school are good people. But all of them are confused, too. What are they supposed to teach? If even cardinals can’t get straight answers to questions about Amoris Laetitia, what are religion teachers in Catholic schools supposed to teach children about marriage and family issues?

One of my children loves Jesus (praise God!). Unfortunately, I already see that child drifting more toward evangelical Protestantism after increasing frustration with the politicization and confusion in the Catholic Church nowadays.

I don’t hate Pope Francis. But I don’t like the current confusion in the Church.
 
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I don’t hate Pope Francis. But I don’t like the current confusion in the Church.
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I’m sorry about your kids. You’re not the only one who is confused. Many of the Faithful are.

I think you make a good point. Some people tend to equate the obvious crisis going on in the Church today with a dislike for Pope Francis. I love the Pope, but I cannot deny that the Church is experiencing a serious crisis today.
 
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What crisis to be exact?
I know there is one, but I just can’t seem to describe it in words…
 
A crisis of Modernism.

It’s most eloquently described by Our Lady of Good Success. In any event, Modernism is described by the Church as the “synthesis of all heresy” and it was condemned by Leo XIII. Unfortunately it’s obviously predominant these days.

EDIT: Modernism was dubbed the “synthesis of all heresy” by Pope Pius X. I indicated that term came from Leo XIII. It did not, yet Leo XIII did condemn it in his encyclical Libertas Praestantissimum
 
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I get frustrated with some of his less than perfectly clear statements at time, but he’s still the Pope. Good pope, bad pope, doesn’t matter. My allegiance is to the church. She’s suffered far worse than Francis in the past.
 
People usually trot out “modernism” every time the Church decides to approach something in a new and different way in response to the problems and issues of the current age.

It’s getting really old.
 
I read it as you wrote it:

To me this appears as though you are distinguishing “Rad-Trads” from Sedevacantists, while name the latter as “Protestant Reformation II.” Am I wrong?

Who said I was? Most Sedevacantists are, properly speaking, Schismatics and not Heretics. But I agree that one is likely to find a mixture of both among them.
 
Right. Some of the Protestant Reformation II-ists are Sedevecantists. Do you see what that sounds like? What are the others?

Why are you beating a dead horse? I never claimed support for Sedevecantism or the like. I’m simply making the observation that these groups are technically schismatics, and not heretics. They do not deny the papacy itself, the deny the current occupant is legitimate.
 
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