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Why do some folk still believe they will enter in to heaven after death? (Its wrong teaching)
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pulchraesamicamea
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Enoch was also taken up alive in heaven.
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davidharper
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“that is not catholic teaching”, “this is dogma of the church”. So catholic teaching overrules the bible?
Tis_Bearself
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The OP states he is a Catholic on his profile. Therefore it was a bit odd to see the allegedly Catholic OP expressing views that sounded more like a Jehovah’s Witness or a sola scriptura Protestant. That is not how Catholics understand the Bible.
Sacred Scripture is part of the Catholic deposit of faith. So is sacred tradition. The Magisterium interprets these teachings and instructs Catholics accordingly. We do not sit around cherry picking Bible verses and interpreting them ourselves; that’s what certain Protestants do and it leads to 1,000 individual interpretations of Scripture, as well as error and schism. It’s not a case of overruling the Bible, it’s a matter of proper understanding of the Bible.
Sacred Scripture is part of the Catholic deposit of faith. So is sacred tradition. The Magisterium interprets these teachings and instructs Catholics accordingly. We do not sit around cherry picking Bible verses and interpreting them ourselves; that’s what certain Protestants do and it leads to 1,000 individual interpretations of Scripture, as well as error and schism. It’s not a case of overruling the Bible, it’s a matter of proper understanding of the Bible.
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IdaCatholic
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Humans in heaven. Well we know Christ with His resurrected body is in heaven. We also know Mary with her human body is in heaven. So how do you explain the verse you vited with that?
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Usagi
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They believe that their body goes to the afterlife immediately after death? As in, they just disappear? Or, if there’s a delay, exhuming any body would disprove this. This seems contrary to empirical observation.
As others have said, Catholics believe that the body (in a resurrected and glorified form) rejoins the soul at the General Judgment after the Second Coming. But saying that the body never enters Heaven is incorrect. From that point and into eternity we will experience the Beatific Vision in body and soul. The “place” where we do that may or may not be identical with the “place” that disembodied souls now inhabit, but it will be “in Heaven” in the only meaningful sense — meaning in the unveiled presence of God.
As others have said, Catholics believe that the body (in a resurrected and glorified form) rejoins the soul at the General Judgment after the Second Coming. But saying that the body never enters Heaven is incorrect. From that point and into eternity we will experience the Beatific Vision in body and soul. The “place” where we do that may or may not be identical with the “place” that disembodied souls now inhabit, but it will be “in Heaven” in the only meaningful sense — meaning in the unveiled presence of God.
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LilyM
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vern_humphrey
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Certainly. Every time we pray the Rosary we state our belief in the resurrection of the body.
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LilyM
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Exactly. The Church existed and taught for decades before a single word of the New Testament was written, and for centuries before the canon of scriptural books that (at least in terms of the NT) Christians generally agree on was actually authoritatively decided.
Christ never commanded that the Gospels or NT be written, and never wrote anything Himself. So He didn’t intend the scriptures to be the be-all and end-all of Christian teaching.
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LilyM
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So to simply state “no human enters heaven”, as the thread title states, is incorrect.LilyM:
Certainly. Every time we pray the Rosary we state our belief in the resurrection of the body.
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C.Longinus
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Haha! (10 characters)
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Michael_Anthony
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And if “God is heaven” (or at least being in the Beatific Vision is) then wherever God is, there heaven is, so the New Earth will also be heaven.
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Gorgias
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Nope! On the other hand, though, as @Tis_Bearself points out, Catholic teaching does overrule inaccurate interpretations of the Bible!
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