Why do the " Bad Boys" get so many women?

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I know this post has gone into a completely different direction but I didn’t see anyone comment on the effect of birth control and how it really effects the hormonal imbalances in women.

It skews how women judge men and can actually result in women picking less desirable men.
Sort of. There was a study a while back that talked about how women were instinctually more attracted to men who were genetically different than they were and not attracted to men who were genetically similar (they measured women’s reactions to sweaty t-shirts so looks weren’t part of the equation). What they also found was that if a woman was on hormonal birth control, it inverted which group she was attracted to.

They speculated that perhaps if a woman met her husband while she was on birth control, they would have a harder time conceiving since they weren’t optimally compatible in that department. But as I recall, that part was speculation.
 
You know what I mean.:yup:

The jerks, bullies, rowdy, smooth talkin’ ones never want for women hanging all over them.:love:

While the nice guys are sitting there thinking “what the heck, I thought girls wanted nice guys.” :doh2:

C’mon guys, let em hear it, vent a little.:sad_yes:

C’mon girls, why do you go for them?:hmmm:
:flowers:
In life, we start out as young people who are constantly battling between good and evil, selfishness and giving, self vs others. I think women admire confident men who know what they want. The problem with the confident bad boys is that these men want what generally boils down to various forms of selfishness. Why? Because it’s easy and lazy to want to please the Self. Easy decision. No confusion. Easy execution of the plan. It involves less work. Just seek good times and pleasure. Simple. No confusing morality to interfere or inhibit.

Then, when the bad boy is done with them, he abandons them because their entertainment value has expired. She sought security in his confidence, but ended up getting the opposite result. In some ways, she has been chopped down a notch. The shallowness of liberal society turns more women into sex-and-run victims, and people can’t wait to vote for more, despite the anger, confusion, and refusal to acknowledge what caused the problem in the first place.

We need to be gutsy, edgy, deep, unafraid to stand up for what we believe, passionate, and full of heart, soul, and romanticism in a truly giving way, like romantic warriors. But knowing these things, and having the stones to show it, is counter to the prevailing messages of the unelected liberal culture which seeks weak-minded puppets who will just go along with them without questioning or challenging them. You could almost do the opposite of the culture and probably be better off.
 
Here’s my thoughts on the whole Alpha, Beta and PUA thing.
PUAs may get the girl’s attention, but rarely win the relationship. And yes, I tried PUA before and it led me to that sobering conclusion.

Also, being an Alpha or a Beta without any moral foundation is a recipe for disaster. I’ve seen those Alpha from Jersey Shore and they are very idiotic as well as lacking in anything moral.
 
Well then I suppose if it’s your own made up definition, you can’t really blame the other poster for “assuming” that you meant pretty to actually mean pretty.

With that being said, I’ll have to agree with the other posters that a strong physical/sexual attraction is very important to starting out a healthy marriage.
thanks!

I knew she was being catty by insulting good looking people when she said it. it has to do with the shallow hal movie. she prefers to think of beautiful men and women (but primarily women) as dumb for example and not capable of intelligence or working or being high powered.or according to her they are immoral. this is a current trend amongst women to bash each other on looks. of course men are also in competition with high powered women whether they are good looking or not and would like to take each woman down a notch or two. somehow ugly people are supposedly not shallow merely by the grace that they are ugly and thus smart. lol
that is truly dumb logic.

it doesn’t really matter to me because she is married and i get all the hotties she can’t have anyway. rotflol

the church teaches beauty is a good.
 
You know what I mean.:yup:

The jerks, bullies, rowdy, smooth talkin’ ones never want for women hanging all over them.:love:

While the nice guys are sitting there thinking “what the heck, I thought girls wanted nice guys.” :doh2:

C’mon guys, let em hear it, vent a little.:sad_yes:

C’mon girls, why do you go for them?:hmmm:
:flowers:
you should also ask the jerks, bullies, rowdy smooth talkin ones you see who have the women you think are attractive that are hanging all over them. i assume you know them right? and why are you friends with jerks bullies and rowdy smooth talkin ones if you are such a nice guy?
 
I once got into a heated discussion with a man who insisted that ALL women like the bad boy type and I just didn’t know or understand that (and I, of course, am a woman). It was kind of comical. But he seriously though all women were attracted to one type of man, no exceptions.

But I’ve wondered this too. I was pretty much a “good girl” in high school and college and hung out with other “good girls.” We didn’t party, do drugs, we studied, didn’t dress immodestly (we weren’t wearing burlap sacks or anything, just normal clothes)… and we were routinely ignored by nice guys who had crushes on girls involved with “bad boys” (and usually those girls were party girls, very stylish, etc).

It’s like I said before, I have this pet theory that some men get wrapped up in wanting the girls already with “bad boys” that they don’t notice the available women near them.
if he lost his temper on you in this discussion then he may have been angry you weren’t falling for him and his version of bad boy since he is so attached to his belief. .
 
Women like a challenge
Nice guys are not a challenge

Incidentally, nice girls face a similar challenge
some women don’t like to be challenged and will dump you, stand their ground, or one up you.
 
One counseling psychologist wrote a whole book and has developed a career to answer the OP’s question:

"No More Mr. Nice Guy" by Dr. Robert Glover, who states that he himself is a “recovering nice guy.”

He considers being a Nice Guy, as typically understood, as a malady of sorts, peculiar to our modern culture. He prescribes ways to get over this, but not by becoming a jerk either.

His basic answer to why girls seem to go for jerks is for Nice Guys to start figuring out all the good things these “Jerks” possess, and which attracts females, (i.e. confidence, manliness, life energy) and not focus on the sometimes less desirable “jerkish” traits. Nice Guys have a lot of positive traits that girls like in their friends, but these traits don’t generally attract them to them as mates.

Here’s Dr. Glover’s website: nomoremrniceguy.com/

His book has some really great stuff, but he also gives some advice that goes against Catholic teaching (such as engaging in “healthy masturbation”), so be warned.
 
I like to think that the phrase Catholic Men would be synonymous with Chivalrous, and have found that to be true in most cases.:heaven:
I’m sorry but I have some problems with the word ‘chivalrous.’ It means two things to me, one good and one bad. On the good side you have King Arthur and on the bad side you have Don Quixote.

I don’t see myself in either of them (especially the latter which I completely despise).

Yes, if I had a girlfriend (good Lord please give me one already), I would definitely be the protective sort (obsessively even). Yes, I can be polite. Yes, I would be devoted. Yes, I open doors for people out of common courtesy.

However, I’m not the type to play nice. Here is where my sense of honor differs from the knightly sorts. You cross me, expect me to resort to methods that so-called ‘chivalrous’ types will decry exclusive to classical villainy. I am not above lying, manipulating, and taking you out without even facing you.

Speaking in fantasy terms, why should I bother fighting you up front when I’m more than capable of blowing you up from a distance (and your pretty white horse too)?

Neither am I the type to help those who can pull their own weight. Be it man, woman, or even child, if you’re capable of helping yourself, then I’m not helping you unless you ask me directly (not expect me to read your mind). I don’t like people getting in my way and meddling in my affairs so it’s only natural that I do the same.
 
Rule #6 - Do not sit in the corner and sulk. It draws attention in a negative way. Draw attention to yourself, but on your own terms.
I can understand the sulking part but what’s wrong with being in a corner? It can be quite a strategic position. You’re easier to miss which makes it easier to hear and observe things unaware of the fool-I mean, people around you. 😛
 
I’m sorry, but in my opinion, this is completely missing the mark - well at least for most women. This trend of women going for “bad boys” that we’ve seen all through many many generations goes a lot deeper than opposites attract. When “opposites attract” works, it means you agree fundamentally but they make your weaknesses stronger by being different than you.
In education, the field where I am, I have seen many good students complain why they were not appreciated but bad boys were.
I have seen a few dozen of bad boy+good girl dating do into excellent marriages.
So, that is my experience.
The reason? God knows.
I have my theory that opposite characters may balance each other, but it may fail.
I have seen good girls falling apart and missing classes with bad boys and bad boys becoming reasonable students or even good students, changing completely their habits because a girls picked them up.
 
In life, we start out as young people who are constantly battling between good and evil, selfishness and giving, self vs others. I think women admire confident men who know what they want. The problem with the confident bad boys is that these men want what generally boils down to various forms of selfishness. Why? Because it’s easy and lazy to want to please the Self. Easy decision. No confusion. Easy execution of the plan. It involves less work. Just seek good times and pleasure. Simple. No confusing morality to interfere or inhibit.

Then, when the bad boy is done with them, he abandons them because their entertainment value has expired. She sought security in his confidence, but ended up getting the opposite result. In some ways, she has been chopped down a notch. The shallowness of liberal society turns more women into sex-and-run victims, and people can’t wait to vote for more, despite the anger, confusion, and refusal to acknowledge what caused the problem in the first place.

We need to be gutsy, edgy, deep, unafraid to stand up for what we believe, passionate, and full of heart, soul, and romanticism in a truly giving way, like romantic warriors. But knowing these things, and having the stones to show it, is counter to the prevailing messages of the unelected liberal culture which seeks weak-minded puppets who will just go along with them without questioning or challenging them. You could almost do the opposite of the culture and probably be better off.
As conservative as I am on so many, many levels, I have to at least be intellectually honest and note that society has victimized women in different ways in the past. And victimized men for that matter. It’s different today because women become victims even as they are being repeatedly bashed over the head that this is “empowerment.” They are not just equal to men, they are the same! Well women and men know on an innate level that we are not the same. We are equal, but far from the same. It is this attempt at achieving sameness that leaves so many in the lurch and the cads who take advantage of knowing the biological truths leave many others feeling used.
 
lol…indeed. Totally agree with that article.

It also verifies the “rationalization hamster” that goes on spinning:
Under the hormonal influence of ovulation, women delude themselves into thinking that the sexy bad boys will become devoted partners and better dads," Durante said. "When looking at the sexy cad through ovulation goggles, Mr. Wrong looked exactly like Mr. Right.
Gotta love science when it proves the highschool experience correct.

Heh. Slightly related, I remember reading once that the perfect answer to a 35+ year old single women asking “where are all the nice guys?” is this: “back in your 20’s where you left them”. 😃
 
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