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TarkanAttila
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First of all, welcome to the forums.
BlotMaster, I take it you also have great faith in the sciences? That these teach you how the world is and works and what made it?
Well, that is one reason why belief is so important. Do you think everyone deserves to know what reality is? Is someone deprived of something if s/he does not understand or correspond to reality?
I cannot tell you why “the gods” fight. Jealousy. Boredom. I don’t know. I cannot tell you why men fight. Probably for the same reasons. But there is one extra: Truth.
May I ask another question? Where did “the gods” come from? How and wherefore is the universe?
Take sexuality. I think atheists and Catholics agree on a lot more than they believe. But see how differently each approaches sex. Many atheists often treat it as an elated high-five at best, a recreational hobby, or even a competition. Catholics treat it as THE image of the God above all gods.
Consider the words of King David, the great prophet, in the 95th Psalm:
…Interesting…some people here pretend to be of uncommon religions in order to spread negative dissension.
Do any of these come from UFOs? ba dum tschhhhI believe that a god is a member of another race of beings albeit far more advanced than humanity.
We do believe that we can change out own destinies, and we can indirectly influence the destinies of others. Christians call this “free will”. Does Asatru etc. believe in free will?In this way our beliefs are similar in that we all believe in destiny, things than cannot be changed, no matter how much, or how little we understand the “why.”
Hey, ours, too! Though, because He is above us, and He is a far superior companion, a far superior mentor, and a far better friend, the de facto state of things is that He is our Master.The beings that I call gods are not my masters, they are my companions, my mentors, my friends.
While it would not be perfect to say so, you could say God does something similar. He died so that we could live forever. That is some kind of respect.I pray to them and worship them but they worship Mankind as well.
What if there were a power superior to Thor? Or Wotan?Thor is duty bound to defend Earth from his chariot. His hammer drove the giants away from our world. It would be a sin against Mankind and against his Father Odin to abandon his charge.
One word: Truth.But why do the gods fight? Why do we fight? Why is it so important to some that everyone believe the same thing that they do?
BlotMaster, I take it you also have great faith in the sciences? That these teach you how the world is and works and what made it?
Well, that is one reason why belief is so important. Do you think everyone deserves to know what reality is? Is someone deprived of something if s/he does not understand or correspond to reality?
I cannot tell you why “the gods” fight. Jealousy. Boredom. I don’t know. I cannot tell you why men fight. Probably for the same reasons. But there is one extra: Truth.
Possibly. But why would you follow someone who claims to be something he is not, and makes this the base of all he teaches you? The entire base of your trust in him and what he teaches would be shattered. After all, what authority does a man’s teaching stand on but truth?What if different gods appeared to different groups of people? Could it be that some of the gods lied when they said that they were the only ones even if they lied about nothing else?
Fair enough.I am certain that my gods have made mistakes as it is written that they have. My gods are honest and have never claimed to be perfect for they too had a beginning.
May I ask another question? Where did “the gods” come from? How and wherefore is the universe?
Yes, surely. I believe Satan - the deceiver - and demons do this all the time. Little lies, however, are like measurements of angles - minutes, seconds, and degrees. Given enough years, one degree’s difference from the Truth can throw you off by miles.What are your opinions on this? Assume for a moment that all gods are real. Could some lie only a little in a way that you cannot detect?
Take sexuality. I think atheists and Catholics agree on a lot more than they believe. But see how differently each approaches sex. Many atheists often treat it as an elated high-five at best, a recreational hobby, or even a competition. Catholics treat it as THE image of the God above all gods.
Not completely baseless considering how He describes Himself - even before He sent His Son down.This is an interesting observation: The rise of a universal religion from the cultural religion of Judaism.
Consider the words of King David, the great prophet, in the 95th Psalm:
3 For the LORD is a great God, and a great King above all gods. 4 In his hand are the depths of the earth; the heights of the mountains are his also. 5 The sea is his, for he made it; for his hands formed the dry land. 6 O come, let us worship and bow down, let us kneel before the LORD, our Maker!