Why Do The Mormons Do It Better?

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Like others have already touched upon, there may be (or even a combination of) a wide variety of social, economical, religious and possibly even political factors. Ultimately, fertility rate doesn’t count for much in the big picture since Catholics still outnumber Mormons greatly.
It all balances out. :cool:

Though, for the specifics, you’re better off asking a sociologist. 😉
 
Hi Amir!

Good to hear from you…yes, people should consult sociologists…after all, faith, reason and science should work together.
 
valient_Lucy said:
Mormons are required by the church to tithe ten percent of their income. I believe that Mormons must submit a copy of their W-2 at the end of the year to verify that they have indeed given 10% of their income. If they don’t, they can’t go to the temple, even to watch their children marry.
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Not that it matters, but is the 10% before or after taxes? Just think-- the Mormon Church that Glenn Beck attends gets 10% of his income. I bet that’s a lot of dough! Wonder if a percentage gets passed on to Salt Lake City.
 
KathleenGee said:
Hi Amir!

Good to hear from you…yes, people should consult sociologists…after all, faith, reason and science should work together.
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Hey Kathleen! 😃

Indeed, they should. But, then again, considering some of the wacky doctrines of the LDS which I’ve come across (Wikipedia knows all!), I wouldn’t be surprised if they have baby-making “factories” for the sole purpose of propagating Mormon beliefs via sheer missionary numbers. 😛

Also, OP, another thing comes to mind. Your observations in your town are based on just that: your observations. If I still remember my statistics class, that’s a pretty small sample case and wouldn’t hold much weight as prood (but I’m no statistician). And, after all, the Catholic world is much larger than the USA aha.

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elgar said:
Not that it matters, but is the 10% before or after taxes? Just think-- the Mormon Church that Glenn Beck attends gets 10% of his income. I bet that’s a lot of dough! Wonder if a percentage gets passed on to Salt Lake City.
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Not sure about that.
 
We have a lot of Mexican families in our church and they have lots and lots of children.
 
This is jfp from Scotland.

Having read the comments about Catholics and Mormons in USA I think their are a few things that bother me. Americans seem to be American first and Catholic second. I personally am Catholic first and allegiance to Scottish flag comes well second to allegiance to faith. Secondly, American Catholcs seem very affected by and Protestant in their outlook in many ways. The Mormons don’t do it better. Who are the morrmons? A fringe group we look at here as a lunatic fringe. Would be great to hear some American comments. Is your allegiace to flag or faith? Obama or Benedict? God Bless Our Pope.
 
jfp1888 said:
This is jfp from Scotland.

Having read the comments about Catholics and Mormons in USA I think their are a few things that bother me. Americans seem to be American first and Catholic second. I personally am Catholic first and allegiance to Scottish flag comes well second to allegiance to faith. Secondly, American Catholcs seem very affected by and Protestant in their outlook in many ways. The Mormons don’t do it better. Who are the morrmons? A fringe group we look at here as a lunatic fringe. Would be great to hear some American comments. Is your allegiace to flag or faith? Obama or Benedict? God Bless Our Pope.
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good comments - and I follow my faith and Pope Benedict first!👍
 
Thanks Christine77 from Vancouver!

I feel better now! We need to talk more!

jfp (john)
 
jfp1888 said:
This is jfp from Scotland.

Having read the comments about Catholics and Mormons in USA I think their are a few things that bother me. Americans seem to be American first and Catholic second. I personally am Catholic first and allegiance to Scottish flag comes well second to allegiance to faith. Secondly, American Catholcs seem very affected by and Protestant in their outlook in many ways. The Mormons don’t do it better. Who are the morrmons? A fringe group we look at here as a lunatic fringe. Would be great to hear some American comments. Is your allegiace to flag or faith? Obama or Benedict? God Bless Our Pope.
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jfp hits the nail on the head. In the late 50’s, early 60’s, the Catholic culture in America (which was never overwhelmingly strong compared to countries like Italy or Brazil) was destroyed as the small ethnic communities broke up and Catholics started integrating into the mainstream society. Unfortunately, at that point, it seems to me that Catholics started looking “outward” to the larger society and Protestant churches, as if desperate to fit in. Which in a way, they were, and quite understandably so. JFK’s election was both the triumph and unmaking of Catholics in the US, imo.
 
It may be true, however, this does not change God working in and through us, where we are.
 
valient_Lucy said:
I remember reading something similar, by an ex-Mormon woman. She talked about how she wanted to provide as many earthly bodies for spirit children as she could. I also remember an interview from the PBS Mormons documentary where a man talked about how they believed that his family already existed in heaven before they were born, and how his wife was very much convinced that there was another spirit child waiting to come to earth to be part of their family.
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And I believe that by having this child she sacrificed her own life. What greater love is there?

Annie
 
Annie_B said:
And I believe that by having this child she sacrificed her own life. What greater love is there?

Annie
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There isn’t any greater love.

My point was that Catholics really can’t have the families and family values that Mormons do because Mormons have a much more exalted view of marriage and families than Catholics.

Mormons have an impoverished of the Church as the Body of Christ and of the Eucharist, so marriage and families fill the void.

Now, Catholics can learn from Mormons in having a sense of being seperate from the rest of society, and not to pick up the values of a larger society. But that’s a different concept.
 
A man who converted to Catholicism, as did his wife, said last night on EWTN, that he learned to have more love for his wife by reflecting on how Christ loves His church.

Catholics are bypassing Catholic parish preparation and counselling for Catholic marriage; many aren’t marrying the Church.
 
KathleenGee said:
Catholics are bypassing Catholic parish preparation and counselling for Catholic marriage; many aren’t marrying the Church.
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True, the number of Catholic marraiges have taken a nose dive over the years. For Mormons, because they believe that marriages in the Temple last throughout eternity, and that marrying in the Temple is essential for salvation, would not marry in another ceremony. From what I understand, it would be a great source of shame for the family if the couple couldn’t (or wouldn’t) get married in the Temple.
 
What we are dealing with is a most powerful secular atheistic culture codifying itself with greater intensity every day.

I just read today what states are the most ‘free’…and it correlates with that which opposes morality of Judeo-Christianity.

Yet look at the bondage of sin—human trafficking, child abuse and parents murdering their own children, pornography, sexually transmitted diseases, the profanity of the mouth, low educational test scores, the bullying…this is what has been unleashed in freedom of expression of passion in opposition to the 10 commandments.

Many young Catholics are just simply getting married outside the sacrament. The image of religion and of God and moral laws has been destroyed by the secular world and its media. I am coming to the conclusion that publicly, the atheists have won and religion is destroyed…meaning, in our children.

Should I say better, the religion and its value has been destroyed in most of our young people. I went to a wonderful and spiritually enriched gathering the other day and just about everyone in there was over 50.
 
valient_Lucy said:
True, the number of Catholic marraiges have taken a nose dive over the years. For Mormons, because they believe that marriages in the Temple last throughout eternity, and that marrying in the Temple is essential for salvation, would not marry in another ceremony. From what I understand, it would be a great source of shame for the family if the couple couldn’t (or wouldn’t) get married in the Temple.
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When I was a teenager (Mormon) the adults were lamenting that fewer than 20% of the youth in our congregation married in a temple.

Even if/when Mormon adults marry in a temple, only about a 1/3 of them remain “temple worthy”.
 
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