Why Do Think Jesus Changed Peters Name

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When GOD gave authority to someone in Scripture, HE changed the name of that person.
  1. GOD renamed Abram to Abraham when He made him the ‘Father of a Multitude of Nations’, in Gen 17:5. HE gave Abraham ‘primacy’ over all other men.
  2. GOD renamed Sara to Sarah when HE made her the ‘Mother of Nations’ in Gen 17:15-16. HE gave Sarah ‘primacy’ over all other women.
  3. GOD renamed Jacob to Israel, the name of the Jewish Nation, and Jacob became the first Israeli in Gen 32:29, 35:10.
  4. GOD renamed Simon to Peter in Matt 16:18, thus giving him ‘primacy’ over all of the Apostles. Why else would GOD give a new name to Simon?
 
BILL PICK said:
When GOD gave authority to someone in Scripture, HE changed the name of that person.
  1. GOD renamed Abram to Abraham when He made him the ‘Father of a Multitude of Nations’, in Gen 17:5. HE gave Abraham ‘primacy’ over all other men.
  2. GOD renamed Sara to Sarah when HE made her the ‘Mother of Nations’ in Gen 17:15-16. HE gave Sarah ‘primacy’ over all other women.
  3. GOD renamed Jacob to Israel, the name of the Jewish Nation, and Jacob became the first Israeli in Gen 32:29, 35:10.
  4. GOD renamed Simon to Peter in Matt 16:18, thus giving him ‘primacy’ over all of the Apostles. Why else would GOD give a new name to Simon?
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Great post - in every case when God renames someone in the scriptures, it is a “significant” event and part of a “promise”. It wasn’t to call him a “pebble” 🙂

Blessings,

Brian
 
BILL PICK said:
When GOD gave authority to someone in Scripture, HE changed the name of that person.
  1. GOD renamed Abram to Abraham when He made him the ‘Father of a Multitude of Nations’, in Gen 17:5. HE gave Abraham ‘primacy’ over all other men.
  2. GOD renamed Sara to Sarah when HE made her the ‘Mother of Nations’ in Gen 17:15-16. HE gave Sarah ‘primacy’ over all other women.
  3. GOD renamed Jacob to Israel, the name of the Jewish Nation, and Jacob became the first Israeli in Gen 32:29, 35:10.
  4. GOD renamed Simon to Peter in Matt 16:18, thus giving him ‘primacy’ over all of the Apostles. Why else would GOD give a new name to Simon?
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Gabriel of 12:
Not to get off your great topic but;
5. God renamed Mary “full of Grace”
6. Saul to “Paul”
7. And name changing continues in the Popes up to today. Including the baptised and confirmed.

Jesus is the corner stone, Jesus built his Church on “Rock” = Peter or Kephas.
 
Peter means Rock. Jesus was preparing Simon to be the rock upon which He would build His church

“And I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades shall not overpower it,” (Matt. 16:18).
 
BILL PICK said:
When GOD gave authority to someone in Scripture, HE changed the name of that person.
  1. GOD renamed Abram to Abraham when He made him the ‘Father of a Multitude of Nations’, in Gen 17:5. HE gave Abraham ‘primacy’ over all other men.
  2. GOD renamed Sara to Sarah when HE made her the ‘Mother of Nations’ in Gen 17:15-16. HE gave Sarah ‘primacy’ over all other women.
  3. GOD renamed Jacob to Israel, the name of the Jewish Nation, and Jacob became the first Israeli in Gen 32:29, 35:10.
  4. GOD renamed Simon to Peter in Matt 16:18, thus giving him ‘primacy’ over all of the Apostles. Why else would GOD give a new name to Simon?
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Because He wanted Peter to rock all night long and party every day! 😃
 
Robbinson said:
Great post - in every case when God renames someone in the scriptures, it is a “significant” event and part of a “promise”. It wasn’t to call him a “pebble” 🙂
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OK, what is significant about Christ renaming James and John as Boanerges (Sons of Thunder)?

John
 
prodromos said:
OK, what is significant about Christ renaming James and John as Boanerges (Sons of Thunder)?

John
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Jesus nicknamed the brothers, He didn’t give them a new name. I believe He did it to show His affection for hot-tempered people, and as a joke to help them cool down.
 
prodromos said:
Christ did nothing flippant.

John
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Do you doubt that Jesus is Man and God? Dose man not have a sense of humor? And was Christ not like us in all ways save sin?

And did Jesus not know all hearts? Did He not call the brothers Sons of Thunder because of their temper? And did He not speak humorously, that His two Apostles might remember the nickname the Lord gave them, out of love and mercy, and calm down when their temper got the better of them? Is it not a plausible reason for why Jesus nicknamed the two brothers?
 
BILL PICK said:
When GOD gave authority to someone in Scripture, HE changed the name of that person.
  1. GOD renamed Abram to Abraham when He made him the ‘Father of a Multitude of Nations’, in Gen 17:5. HE gave Abraham ‘primacy’ over all other men.
  2. GOD renamed Sara to Sarah when HE made her the ‘Mother of Nations’ in Gen 17:15-16. HE gave Sarah ‘primacy’ over all other women.
  3. GOD renamed Jacob to Israel, the name of the Jewish Nation, and Jacob became the first Israeli in Gen 32:29, 35:10.
  4. GOD renamed Simon to Peter in Matt 16:18, thus giving him ‘primacy’ over all of the Apostles. Why else would GOD give a new name to Simon?
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Peters primacy: Matt 10:2,16:15-19, *Luke 22:24-33,24:34, John 10:16,21:1-11,15-19,
Acts 2:14-41, Acts *5:29,9:36-43,10:1-48,11:1-18, *Acts 15:7, 1Cor 15:5.
 
BILL PICK said:
GOD renamed Simon to Peter in Matt 16:18, thus giving him ‘primacy’ over all of the Apostles. Why else would GOD give a new name to Simon?
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Where does the Bible say that?

In your other examples of name change - God stated the reason for the change and the significance of the new name - but where did God state that Peter had primacy OVER ALL THE OTHER APOSTLES?

Did Paul know about this primacy?

Did Peter even know about his primacy?

How can you prove this?
 
SEE IF THIS WILL HELP YOU—They replied, “Some say John the Baptist, 10 others Elijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”
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He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
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11 Simon Peter said in reply, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
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Jesus said to him in reply, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood 12 has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father.
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And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, 13 and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it.
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I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. 14 Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
DO YOU SEE THE WORD CHURCH AND KEYS TO THE KINDGOM
 
Gabriel_of_12 said:
Gabriel of 12:
Not to get off your great topic but;
5. God renamed Mary “full of Grace”
6. Saul to “Paul”
7. And name changing continues in the Popes up to today. Including the baptised and confirmed.

Jesus is the corner stone, Jesus built his Church on “Rock” = Peter or Kephas.
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God did not rename Mary “full of grace”. The Angel Gabriel acknowledge that she was full of grace, but there was no name change. That is, no where do we see, “Hey, isn’t that “full of grace” Jesus’ mother?”

God did not change Saint Paul’s name. He already had both names. As a citizen of Rome, his Roman name was Paulus (Paul). Saul was his Hebrew name.

God doesn’t change the Pope’s name. No name change is necessary for the Pope (or any other religious). But, it is common for a new name to be chosen (the reasons for which are off-topic here). But, in the case of the Pope, going from say Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger to Pope Benedict XVI was a name change by the Pope himself, not God. God didn’t orally give the Pope his new name.
 
BILL PICK said:
Where Did You Get Your Info On Paul Name
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It wasn’t any one place. Just the result of reading this and that that one learns such things. Here is one source for you.

It is known that Saint Paul had dual-citizenship. He was a Jewish Pharisee (Acts 23:6). He was also born a Roman citizen (Acts 22:26-29).

As for it being common for such to have two names, one ready source is “Dictionary of the Apostolic Church: By James Hastings, John Chisholm Lambert, John Alexander” It is a Protestant work, so you won’t think it is biased toward the Catholic Church – and is available online at Google Books (well, volume one at least). But I strongly urge you to track down more works on the topic (Google is our friend ;)). In the article on Bar-Jesus, page 137, it is written:

…the use of the two names ‘Saul who is also called Paul.’ But Ramsay has explained the latter usage most convincingly. It was the fashion in bilingual countries to have two names, the native and the Greek. Amongst Jewish surroundings Paul’s Jewish name ’ Saul ’ was used naturally ; but ’ by a marvellous stroke of historic brevity (Ramsay, 83) the author sets forth by a formula how in the court of the Roman governor, when the Apostle challenged the system represented by Bar-Jesus, he stood forth as Paul the Roman citizen, a freeborn member of that Greek-Roman world to which he carried his universal gospel…
 
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