Why do you hate Islam?

[elwill]

Yes. Consider the following analysis:

If Islam Is True

… the Islamic view [of Christianity] is extremely problematic. It requires us to believe that God deceived billions of people. God even led Jesus’ followers astray by tricking so many people into believing that Jesus died. This could have been avoided if God hadn’t been so intent on deceiving people. But this leads to more questions: Why would Allah want people to believe that Jesus was dead when he really wasn’t? Muslims can’t argue that Allah did it to protect Jesus from the Jews or Romans, since Allah was taking Jesus away safely anyway. So, why would Allah want to give Jesus’ enemies the satisfaction of seeing Jesus killed? Why not raise Jesus up without deceiving everyone about it? There seems to be no reason at all for Allah to deceive these people, especially since such a deception would soon lead to the formation of Christianity.

you asked many nonsense questions , so let me reply with one question which is similar to yours : why God allowed mohammed (pbuh) to succeed in his massage ?

afterall sedonaman , our main problem with christianity isn’t the death of jesus , may be we have different view or different story about his death , but in the fact our main problem with christianity is divinity of jesus issue and the trinity concept

If Islam is true, Allah deceives people who believe the prophets he sends.

i didn’t usnderstand this one , can you clarify your point please

If Islam is true, Allah spreads false teachings until they become dominant in the world. If Islam is true, Jesus, the Messiah, was completely incompetent and should never have been sent by Allah, since Jesus’ life ended up leading more people astray than any other life in history.** Because the Muslim view is at odds with any traditional understanding of God’s nature **(including the Islamic understanding), Islam is an incoherent religious system, which should be rejected by all rational people. Islam has a poor and contemptible explanation for the origin of Christianity. If Islam is true, the existence of Christianity makes no sense at all.

the most part i liked in your speech is the nature of God in islam which seems to you odd nature , i have to confess then that trinity nature of God make more sense

If Christianity Is True

Christianity, on the other hand, easily accounts for the rise of Islam. “… false prophets will arise and will mislead many.”] Indeed, if Christianity is true, the rise of Islam makes perfect sense. If it isn’t immediately clear why Christianity entails the rise of religions such as Islam, consider the following line of thought.

religion of paul make sense to me either , spesially when he decieve the followers of
jesus themselfs not the pagan arabs

The message of Islam is something like this: “Believe in God. Do good deeds. If you do enough of them, you’ll get to heaven. Respect Jesus, for he was a mighty prophet, who delivered God’s message to the children of Israel. Also believe that Jesus was born of a virgin, that he performed many miracles, and that he was the Messiah. But whatever you do, don’t believe that he died on the cross for your sins. And don’t believe that he rose from the dead. In fact, the worst possible sin you can commit is to believe that Jesus is the Son of God.”

that’s right

“Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”
​

islam isn’t new religion , it’s the religion of all prophets to thier people , mohammed (pbuh) just last prophet of God to humanity

about his command in preaching in islam i can recite this verse
16-125 - Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from his path, and who receive guidance.​

 

[Peter29]

you asked many nonsense questions , so let me reply with one question which is similar to yours : why God allowed mohammed (pbuh) to succeed in his massage ?

afterall sedonaman , our main problem with christianity isn’t the death of jesus , may be we have different view or different story about his death , but in the fact our main problem with christianity is divinity of jesus issue and the trinity concept

Because God is good =)

If a christian is non-trinitarian what is your view? (ie if a Christian rejects ‘the father, the son and the holy spirit’ and only worships ‘the father’)

Thanks

 

[elwill]

Because God is good =)

If a christian is non-trinitarian what is your view? (ie if a Christian rejects ‘the father, the son and the holy spirit’ and only worships ‘the father’)

Thanks

if a christian is non- trinitarian who worship the one God the father , the only one worth for worship and don’t divine jesus (pbuh) i will consider him follower of the religion of abraham and moses and jesus (pbuh) , i can consider him muslim

48 - God forgiveth not that partners should be set up with him; but he forgiveth anything else, to whom he pleaseth; to set up partners with God is to devise a sin most heinous indeed.

in another verse
125 - Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in faith? for God did take Abraham for a friend.

and God know best

 

[Peter29]

if a christian is non- trinitarian who worship the one God the father , the only one worth for worship and don’t divine jesus (pbuh) i will consider him follower of the religion of abraham and moses and jesus (pbuh) , i can consider him muslim

48 - God forgiveth not that partners should be set up with him; but he forgiveth anything else, to whom he pleaseth; to set up partners with God is to devise a sin most heinous indeed.

in another verse
125 - Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in faith? for God did take Abraham for a friend.

and God know best

Even if they reject Mohammed’s teaching entirely?

If Islam is true, Allah deceives people who believe the prophets he sends.

i didn’t usnderstand this one , can you clarify your point please

I believe the poster was repeating their previous point

If Islam Is True

… the Islamic view [of Christianity] is extremely problematic. It requires us to believe that God deceived billions of people. God even led Jesus’ followers astray by tricking so many people into believing that Jesus died. This could have been avoided if God hadn’t been so intent on deceiving people. But this leads to more questions: Why would Allah want people to believe that Jesus was dead when he really wasn’t? Muslims can’t argue that Allah did it to protect Jesus from the Jews or Romans, since Allah was taking Jesus away safely anyway. So, why would Allah want to give Jesus’ enemies the satisfaction of seeing Jesus killed? Why not raise Jesus up without deceiving everyone about it? There seems to be no reason at all for Allah to deceive these people, especially since such a deception would soon lead to the formation of Christianity.

you asked many nonsense questions , so let me reply with one question which is similar to yours : why God allowed mohammed (pbuh) to succeed in his massage ?

afterall sedonaman , our main problem with christianity isn’t the death of jesus , may be we have different view or different story about his death , but in the fact our main problem with christianity is divinity of jesus issue and the trinity concept

Thanks

 

[Agabriel]

Even if they reject Mohammed’s teaching entirely?

I believe the poster was repeating their previous point
Thanks

Basically, he is saying if you meet his requirements for belief in a god then you are approved.

Muslims set themselves up as judge, jury and executioner.

To be a Muslim it is a requirement to accept Muhammed. But, in Islam, one doesn’t necessarily have to accept Islam (be reverted), but one can accept subjugation (dhimmitude)- and be humiliated daily and pay the jizya.

Sharia offers little else though to the dhimmi. There are no freedoms, no voting to change sharia laws, no holding political office, and many other restrictions. And a dhimmi must accept anything that any Muslim does to them.

And they won’t tell you a lot of this, they won’t even tell you that when they refer to fighting they are indeed referring to fighting us even if we do nothing to them other than reject Islam, Allah and Muhammed. Because our lands are considered the lands of war (dar al harb). This ommission is just one aspect of taqiyya/kithman.

Another aspect of taqiyya/kithman is that they will deny it, or say a different sect of Islam practices it and not them. Well, it is indeed ‘live and well’ if they say that. war is deception and a good Muslim intentionally deceiving us to know the Quran: 6:25 6:110 17:45-76.

I apologize for posting this again - it is only meant for anyone who is new to the threads on Islam.

 

[BobCatholic]

**Bob you have agreed with slyboots. I had to visit that link to see about Taqiyya. There was no reference there from Quran to support Taqiyya. It was only a self made accusation. Please see:

******.

The above ws the opening part of the article on Taqiyya. I tell you all it is a balatant lie. The whole article is a balatant LIE. There is no truth in it. Only one minor sect in Islam believes in taqiyya. And that is also wrong. Not based on any verse of the Quran.

Please show me the citations from the other Islamic sects that condemn and make Taqiyya haram. And not just that, I want authoritative proof that under Islam, it is prohibited to lie to non-believers.

My other objections to Islam still stand unanswered.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=5326749#post5326749

 

[Blessed_Karl]

you asked many nonsense questions , so let me reply with one question which is similar to yours : why God allowed mohammed (pbuh) to succeed in his massage ?QUOTE]

Elwill you did not answer any of Sed’s points. Answer the “nonsense.” Why did God decieve billions of people by fooling the world with Jesus not really dying on the cross? Why did God not protect his early people from the “religion of Paul”?

Here is a reply to your question:

  Why did God allow Zoroaster, Buddha, the ancient Aztecs and other religions to convert so many people? As for Muhammad...why did his religion spread only via conquest for the first 200 years? 

  Fact of the matter is that Muhammad did not succeed at all! His religion has been largely, until recent years, confined to North Africa, Middle East, and Far East (with exceptions of course).

 

[sedonaman]

you asked many nonsense questions , so let me reply with one question which is similar to yours : why God allowed mohammed (pbuh) to succeed in his massage [sic] ?

God didn’t “let” Mohammed [jbuh] succeed in his message. God gave man free will, and some used that free will to chose to follow one of the false prophets “who will mislead many” predicted by Jesus. That’s how Christianity can explain the rise of Islam.

Mohammed didn’t win all the battles he fought; he won some and lost some. The “success” of Islam can clearly be understood simply as a product of normal human affairs and ambitions; after all, there is nothing supernatural about some people willing to follow a leader who holds out the promise of wealth from waging war … and a heavenly reward to boot!

…afterall sedonaman , our main problem with christianity isn’t the death of jesus , may be we have different view or different story about his death , but in the fact our main problem with christianity is divinity of jesus issue and the trinity concept

Then why do Muslims object so vociferously at the mere suggestion that Jesus died on a cross?

Re: “If Islam is true, Allah deceives people who believe the prophets he sends.”

i didn’t usnderstand this one , can you clarify your point please

According to Islam, and your own statement below about Mohammed being the “last” prophet, Allah sent many prophets that Islam affirms, those of the Old and New Testaments, including Jesus *. These prophets taught a message different from Islam’s. Since you consider Islam to be true, these prophets/messengers of Allah misled their followers by starting a religion that, according to Islam, is wrong. That also makes Jesus an incompetent Messiah. Since they are all “messengers” of Allah, Allah deceived people who believed the prophets he sent.

the most part i liked in your speech is the nature of God in islam which seems to you odd nature , i have to confess then that trinity nature of God make more sense

There has been some speculation here that the “angel Gabriel” alleged to have appeared to Mohammed was actually Satan who convinced him to start a religion to lead man away from God while appearing to be the “true” one. Islam’s idea that Allah’s will defining his nature supports this, because the Christian teaching is that Satan was cast out of Paradise as a result of a contest of wills with God. Satan then would necessarily present himself as a god of will.

Allah’s nature can be understood only of his will. However, Allah’s will is what he wills it. Therefore, not only is Allah a god of will, but also his will is subject to what he wills it to be. This explains a lot. God [of the Bible] is Love … That is the nature of God, whereas Allah “can be merciful or spiteful [or hateful], but only if he wills, God cannot do anything that is contrary to his nature, while Allah’s nature is whatever he wants it to be at a particular moment. Allah’s nature is brought around to conform to whatever his will is, contrary to God’s will conforming to his nature. Conclusion: God’s will follows his nature; Allah’s nature follows his will.

religion of paul make sense to me either , spesially when he decieve the followers of jesus themselfs not the pagan arabs

Because nothing you Muslims say ever makes any sense at all, I must ask if you all are using a book called The Muslim Guide to Random Responses to Christian Critics of Islam?

Paul deceived the followers of Jesus? Paul taught Jesus crucified; some of the followers he “deceived” were witnesses to Christ’s crucifixion. Paul also taught that those who follow someone other than Jesus were in error.

that’s right

Quod est demonstratum.

islam isn’t new religion , it’s the religion of all prophets to thier people , mohammed (pbuh) just last prophet of God to humanity

Anyone can stand up and claim to have a message from God or about God. But the question is, as people who sincerely want to know, how are we to determine whether or not someone is actually speaking the truth from God? How are we to know if they are speaking divine truths or if they are just pretending or delusional? What proof does Mohammed offer besides his own claim? Answer: Nada.

The best that can be said about Islam is that it is self-deception as a group effort.

about his command in preaching in islam i can recite this verse
16-125 - Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from his path, and who receive guidance.

As it would be useless for me to quote passages of Christian Scripture to those who do not accept its authority, it is likewise useless for you to quote authorities I do not accept.*

 

[sedonaman]

Please show me the citations from the other Islamic sects that condemn and make Taqiyya haram. And not just that, I want authoritative proof that under Islam, it is prohibited to lie to non-believers.

LOL !

My other objections to Islam still stand unanswered.

…

My advice is not to go without chocolate waiting for an answer from planten. The wait will kill you.

 

[LutheranDK]

Why do you hate Islam?
Is it because Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world?
cnn.com/WORLD/9704/14/egypt.islam/
defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10042001_200110043.html
themodernreligion.com/convert/am.htm

Do you deeply believe in the logic of Islam and you can’t say it?
Did you visit Islamic sites or read Koran to judge it?
Judging can’t be done by quick overview but needs reading and comparing.
Do you know Islam respects Jesus and Mary very much and Jewish call them illegitimate and whore?
We have all the resources to know and judge. Check the Internet, it’s free.

Beneficial Links for Non-Muslims
muslim-answers.org
islam-guide.com/
al-sunnah.com/onlyforyou.htm
convertstoislam.org/
muslim-answers.org/am-toc.htm#BIBLE

LOL
What excellent logical skills you show here!!
“If you’re not muslim, it’s because you want to be muslim and don’t want to say it”

The koran isn’t logical at all. It is self-contradictory, full of confused and downright false statements (including about Christian and Jewish theology).
Furthermore, at least rabbinical Judaism comes out and flatly says that it wants nothing to do with Jesus. That’s HONEST, if nothing else. Islam claims that it respects Jesus, and yet calls Him a liar, by dethroning Him. Hypocritical unbelief seems to me to be worse than honest unbelief…

 

[jakasaki]

I do not believe the original poster has any intentions of returning.

We already have seen new muslim members join CAF, post a few Q’s here and there and leave never to respond to them.

I would like to see the original poster return and reply. But alas, I don’t thing it will happen.

 

[pjk123]

I think few of the moslems coming to this forum with their brains full of indoctrination of Islam as “p"i"eceful”,superior,scientific,fastest growing…(add what you want) and the duty of doing jehad on us ,infidels.being living in the midst of Moslems ,Please don’t explain to ME atleast How Islam stands in reality.Islam brings UP(↑) poverty,unemployment(most of the time in nearest madrassa learning koran),HATE for infidels,and the salafi movement which is predominant in my area among muslims which is funded from saudi arabian wahaabi terrorists.More Over,Islam Destroys the Ethnic Culture for Arabization ,which is not good for countries like India with rich cultural Heritage.this all makes me tell that ,Islam has to be erased from this planet and universe.Muslims has to come back to the right path.the Path of Catholic Christianity.I pray for the same.There may be many closet Christians(apostate musalman) in pakistan,India etc.but their life is under big threat if the followers of islam knows about that.

What Catholic Church and Other Christian Denominations must bring up is a solution for those Muslims who want to leave Islam and don’t want to die from Mr.Nice Guys like below :
faithfreedom.org/Gallery/terrorist.jpg

• Eeso Maseeha Se Dua Karoonga Ke Musalmano Ko Akal,Taakat do taaki Islam Chor Kara vo log Catholic Church Aa Jayein.*

 

[Agabriel]

Some important clerics in Islam and what they have to say. (the one from the Muslim brotherhood is what erks me - they use the MSA (Muslim Student association) as one of their tools).

Sheik Yusuf Qaradawi, spiritual leader of the Muslim
Brotherhood:
“Islam came to be followed, not to follow; to be dominant,
not subordinate."
“Islam came with its complete, comprehensive and
eternal sharia (law) for the whole of mankind."
From Jihad in Islam by Sayyeed Abdul A’la Maududi,
one of the most prolific and most widely read Islamic
writer of the 20th Century:
“The goal of Islam is to rule the entire world and submit
all of mankind to the faith of Islam. Any nation or
power that gets in the way of that goal, Islam will fight
and destroy.”

Ali Gom’a, the grand mufti of Egypt, the highest
Muslim religious authority in the world, supports murdering
non-Muslims. In the daily Al Ahram (April 7,
2008), he says, “Muslims must kill non-believers wherever
they are unless they convert to Islam.” He also
compares non-Muslims to apes and pigs, not only
the Jews.

Muhammad Sayyid Al Tantawi, president of Al Azhar
University also approves of killing and maiming Christians,
Jews, and other infidels. He added, “This is not
my personal view. This what the Shari’a Law says,
the law of Allah, the only valid law on the earth.”

Yousef Al Qaradhawi, the spiritual leader of the fundamentalist
organization, the Muslim Brothers, urged
on Al Jazeera TV (Jan. 9, 2009) Muslims to kill the
Jews, not only in Israel but also worldwide. He added,
“No peace can be made between us (Muslims) and
the non-believers. This what our holy book says. This
what Allah says.”

 

[planten]

elwill;5331767:

you asked many nonsense questions , so let me reply with one question which is similar to yours : why God allowed mohammed (pbuh) to succeed in his massage ?QUOTE]

**The Question why did Muhammad succeed in defeating the followers of the false religions
is important. How and why did the Muslims faith spread all over Asia, Afrika and Europe so quickly. The reason is “The Truth prevails.” There is truth in Islam. As long as Muslims were not ignorant and heedless of the message of Allah, they prevailed upon their enemies i.e. the christians and the Pesians and atheists. Now that Muslims have become ignorant of the real message of Peace, they have become a toy in the hands of their enemies.

Another reason for the success of Islam 1400 years ago was that the enemies of Islam asked for trouble by opposing Islam with their mighty armies.

I will not discuss other things with you now**

.

 

[planten]

God didn’t “let” Mohammed [jbuh] succeed in his message. God gave man free will, and some used that free will to chose to follow one of the false prophets “who will mislead many” predicted by Jesus. That’s how Christianity can explain the rise of Islam.

sedonaman, you made your post extra ordinarily long so that Muslims cannot reply easily. The reply to your question is same as given to blessed Karl.

Then why do Muslims object so vociferously at the mere suggestion that Jesus died on a cross?

**It is the truth that Jesus did not die on the cross. he was not cursed person as you christians believe. Some one has tricked you. Quran has saved the dignity and honor of Jesus and his disciples. Your bible tells that all disciples fled the scene. Quran doe snot say so.

Jessu migrated like other prophets Abraham, jacob and Moses a.s. He went away to a more beautiful land full of snow and and gardens and springs.**.

There has been some speculation here that the “angel Gabriel” alleged to have appeared to Mohammed was actually Satan who convinced him to start a religion to lead man away from God while appearing to be the “true” one. Islam’s idea that Allah’s will defining his nature supports this, because the Christian teaching is that Satan was cast out of Paradise as a result of a contest of wills with God. Satan then would necessarily present himself as a god of will

.

** Please do not speculate. Otherwise there will be limit to the falsehood of your own bible.**

Because nothing you Muslims say ever makes any sense at all, I must ask if you all are using a book called The Muslim Guide to Random Responses to Christian Critics of Islam?

** Please tell if your beliefs make sense?? Is it sensible to punish an innocent man on the cross for the sins of the others?? Will that cure the ills of B’s headache if A will hit him own head with a stone?? Then you have three in One in Three. Is that sensible??**

Paul deceived the followers of Jesus? Paul taught Jesus crucified; some of the followers he “deceived” were witnesses to Christ’s crucifixion. Paul also taught that those who follow someone other than Jesus were in error.
Quod est demonstratum

** Paul did not serve the poor sheep. He decieved them and led them all astray. When the real shepherd (jesus) was gone from the land, there was open field for the real wolf in lambs clothing to fiercely attack the poor sheep against the pure teachings of Jesus. That is what happened to yoru faith. It is all proved by the BibleOT and bibleNT. (Quo Vadis??)**
.

Anyone can stand up and claim to have a message from God or about God. But the question is, as people who sincerely want to know, how are we to determine whether or not someone is actually speaking the truth from God? How are we to know if they are speaking divine truths or if they are just pretending or delusional? What proof does Mohammed offer besides his own claim? Answer: Nada

.

You seem to have vry little knowledge of any religion. may be you are a new christian product. You are unaware of the fact that a false prophet is killed (Deut 18:20) Why don’t you try to satnd up and say that you received soem message from God?? You will soon see the result of your bad announcement.

The best that can be said about Islam is that it is self-deception as a group effort.

As it would be useless for me to quote passages of Christian Scripture to those who do not accept its authority, it is likewise useless for you to quote authorities I do not accept.

You are welcome to present your bible if there is anything good or better in it than in the Quran. We accept your book as authority for you. Welcome. Do not be afraid.

 

[planten]

LOL !

My advice is not to go without chocolate waiting for an answer from planten. The wait will kill you.

sedonamn, there is no need to show anything to Bobcatholic. If Bob has found something that Muslims believe in taqiyya then Bob can also find out that maximum number sect in Islam do not believe in Taqiyya. They hate taqiyya.

 

[planten]

LOL
What excellent logical skills you show here!!
“If you’re not muslim, it’s because you want to be muslim and don’t want to say it”

The koran isn’t logical at all. It is self-contradictory, full of confused and downright false statements (including about Christian and Jewish theology).
Furthermore, at least rabbinical Judaism comes out and flatly says that it wants nothing to do with Jesus. That’s HONEST, if nothing else. Islam claims that it respects Jesus, and yet calls Him a liar, by dethroning Him. Hypocritical unbelief seems to me to be worse than honest unbelief…

**Please do not go out of control. Slow down and do not say what is not in the Quran. Already you people have so many false beliefs that you have derived from the good words of the bibleOT and NT. Now you are trying to put words in our mouth that Quran says Jesus was a Liar. That is an absolute LIE. That is the byproduct of your bad minds only.

Can you show me any of that From Quran??.

It is silly to say that Islam on the one hand praises Jesus and on the other hand it calls him a Liar. Will any one believe you? You should know that it is your own misunderstanding of the truth and your fault. No fault in Islam or Quran**.

 

[planten]

I do not believe the original poster has any intentions of returning.

We already have seen new muslim members join CAF, post a few Q’s here and there and leave never to respond to them.

I would like to see the original poster return and reply. But alas, I don’t thing it will happen.

jakasaki, there is no need for the OP to come back. You did not serve him/her well. But there are other Muslims here to look after you.

 

[planten]

I think few of the moslems coming to this forum with their brains full of indoctrination of Islam as “p"i"eceful”,superior,scientific,fastest growing…(add what you want) and the duty of doing jehad on us ,infidels.being living in the midst of Moslems ,Please don’t explain to ME atleast How Islam stands in reality.Islam brings UP(↑) poverty,unemployment(most of the time in nearest madrassa learning koran),HATE for infidels,and the salafi movement which is predominant in my area among muslims which is funded from saudi arabian wahaabi terrorists.More Over,Islam Destroys the Ethnic Culture for Arabization ,which is not good for countries like India with rich cultural Heritage.this all makes me tell that ,Islam has to be erased from this planet and universe.Muslims has to come back to the right path.the Path of Catholic Christianity.I pray for the same.There may be many closet Christians(apostate musalman) in pakistan,India etc.but their life is under big threat if the followers of islam knows about that.

What Catholic Church and Other Christian Denominations must bring up is a solution for those Muslims who want to leave Islam and don’t want to die from Mr.Nice Guys like below :
faithfreedom.org/Gallery/terrorist.jpg

• Eeso Maseeha Se Dua Karoonga Ke Musalmano Ko Akal,Taakat do taaki Islam Chor Kara vo log Catholic Church Aa Jayein.*

**Malabar christian, please do not look at what the Muslims are doing today and what they teaching / preaching. That is not islam. Also I suggest that you do not look at what the christians are doing today. They are as bad as the Muslims as far as the religion is concerned.

Rather we should try to see the sacred books of each faith and try to understand things. That will lead us to truth**.

 

[slyboots]

Blessed Karl;5333417:

elwill;5331767:

you asked many nonsense questions , so let me reply with one question which is similar to yours : why God allowed mohammed (pbuh) to succeed in his massage ?QUOTE]

**The Question why did Muhammad succeed in defeating the followers of the false religions
is important. How and why did the Muslims faith spread all over Asia, Afrika and Europe so quickly. The reason is “The Truth prevails.” There is truth in Islam. As long as Muslims were not ignorant and heedless of the message of Allah, they prevailed upon their enemies i.e. the christians and the Pesians and atheists. Now that Muslims have become ignorant of the real message of Peace, they have become a toy in the hands of their enemies.

Another reason for the success of Islam 1400 years ago was that the enemies of Islam asked for trouble by opposing Islam with their mighty armies.

I will not discuss other things with you now**

.
Planten, you might ask why God allowed the black death to spread or whatever disease. He allows things like the Islamic invasions to help us grow in our faith. Have you never read the book of Job?
Planten, Your religion is untrue. And the Lord allows it to exist only to strengthen the faith of Christians and Jews.
Jesus Christ is God, the son of God, the Messiah, the Redeemer and Savior of all living.
When you are ready to accept that you will see that Mohammed was no prophet. And that Islam was false.
I do not say this to be unkind. I say it because it is true. I hope you will someday find it for yourself.