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ZAKI
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Assalam,
How about you look at his quotations and compare them to mine?
Maybe then you can see what incorrectly is.
wasalam
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How about you look at his quotations and compare them to mine?
Maybe then you can see what incorrectly is.
wasalam
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KingAlfred
Guest
**“Why do you hate Islam?” **
I don’t hate it, but I do view it as a religion of death. Its fanatics have completely hijacked it, and turned it into a ruthless tyranny. In its predominant form today, Islam is evil.
I don’t hate it, but I do view it as a religion of death. Its fanatics have completely hijacked it, and turned it into a ruthless tyranny. In its predominant form today, Islam is evil.
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ZAKI
Guest
Assalam,
So you don’t hate a religion of death? I certainly would.
Subhanallah, I’ve been to a few muslim forums and non have ever insulted christianity using words such as evil and bad. they just say that it is a misguided religion.
wasalam
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planten
Guest
**Agabriel, you have made your post intentionally long so that we Muslims cannot reply to every point. So I will cut-off most of your post or reply to you in installments.
First you should know that Jesus was just a messenger of God. He said in the bible hmself that he was sent by some One. Moreover he was just an isralei prophet for the Israelis only, for their welfare and guidance. He was not for the entire world or for all times.
He said he was the light or he was the door. That was correct for that time only. He was the last messenger amongst the long line of Jewish (Israeli) prophets under the command of Moses a.s. He was only for the Israelsi. It was sad that the Israelis rejected him and he had to disappear very quickly (suddenly) from the scene.
Since you have entered into that field about the validity of Quran, I have informed you about the invalidity of your bible or the message of Jesus. I would ask you to show me that the message of Jesus is for all times and all nations. Please show me that from bibleNT in clear words… It is nowhere in the bible…**.
**You are just trying to run away from a good principle which applies to bible too. It helps to understand the context. So please do not mislead people by posting fractioned verses of the Quran. **.
You must have misinterpretted the Quran. that is why you are being told to avoid it in future.
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That is good of you. Try to follow Muhammad. If you cannot then at least follow Jesus in word and deed.
**Quran’s definition of a Muslim is a believer who believes in Allah and he believes in all the angels of Allah, believes in all the revealed books of Allah, all the messengers of Allah. Messengers means Abraham, Noah, Jacob, Moses and Jesus and Muhammad. That is about the believer, a Momin.
Then the Muslim is the one who is a Momin, and he/she submits to the Will of Allah and prays and gives poor money and fasts during Ramadhan and subject to availability, he performs pilgrimage to Makkah once in lifetime.**.
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jakasaki
Guest
I too have been and participated in islamic forums as a Christian and they tore my religion apart at each and every post.
They insulted Christianity as a religion of s.t.n (I will not type the word out but it’s the name of the evil one who tried to temp Christ 3 times)
So please spare me the comment as a “misguided religion”.
Hence, I don’t participate in these said forums anymore.
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ZAKI
Guest
Assalam,
Go to muslimonline or 7cgen. If somebody insults anybody then they get banned.
wasalam
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planten
Guest
**K A, I agree to you that some misled Muslims have brought a very bad name to Islam by their bad habits, and bad understanding of the peaceful religion.
But please do not forget that the christians are also supporting those misled Muslims by saying that that is the real Islam. If any one presents the right face of Islam, the christians say that is false.**
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jakasaki
Guest
Planten, is that you new opening line now, that posts are ““intentionally long so that we Muslims cannot reply to every point.””
Anyway, I leave your answer below.
Matthew 28
16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go.
17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted.
18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them ina the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
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ZAKI
Guest
assalam,
what about that time when he rejected that women because she wasn’t an israelite? i forgot the verse but i’d find it for you inshallah…
wasalam
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planten
Guest
Yes, I have noted it with some posters. They make post too long. When reply is given, it bacomes too much and it is not acceptable by the forum rules…
**Okay, some worshipped Jesus and some doubted. What did Jesus do about it?? It was his duty to clarify and tell who was right and who was wrong. Did he do that? No. Why is that?? It is natural for some misguided persons to start worshipping the messengers of God.
Jesus did not abuse those who did not worship him nor did he advise them to behave in future. That was the right way since the world was made. No one was to worshipped except The One God and Jesus was not that One God, for sure.**
No harm if authority was given to him. He was a messenger of God. So God must have given him some authority. But we see that Jesus could not avoid or ward off the cup (that was Crucifixion). He had no authority about the event of the cross. he did not want to drink that cup. But he could not avoid it.
**That seemed to be an after thought of the bible writers. It was completely against the original teachings of Jesus which meant that his disciples were not to go near any non-Israeli person. It was a very serious order and mentioned as such at various places in the bibleNT. Jesus even likened the non-Israelis as dogs.
I do not believe that Jesus ever said such a thing to his disciples to preach to any non-Jew. That would have been a crime in that country. How could Jesus tell his disciples to do something which he did not do himself?? It is a false idea added (invented) by some one in the bible. How could Jesus tell his disciples to do somethign which he never did.**
That could only be symbolic, metaphorical news only. Could we take that literally?? Surely not.
He has gone away for the last 2000 years and nothing is heard or seen of him till today. But he says “I am with you…” How come? How would you explain it please.?
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sedonaman
Guest
No, because Islamic “scholars” disagree among themselves, so that would be a fruitless effort. Besides, you are the one making the charge that he quoted “incorrectly,” and since Muslims have different understandings of words, I am asking you to explain what “incorrectly” means as far as the Muslim understanding goes. Since I am not Muslim, I cannot do it. Ball is in your court.
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sedonaman
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sedonaman
Guest
Could it be because a rational argument to be understood and believed needs to have some background information? It’s not like when a Muslim asks a question of Islamic “scholars” and is given a simple, “Because Mohammed said so.”
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qui_est_ce
Guest
Matthew 15:22,26-28 (New International Version)
22A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession.”
26He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to their dogs.”
27"Yes, Lord," she said, “but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters’ table.”
28Then Jesus answered, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed from that very hour.
**Jesus came for the Jews first, and then to the Gentiles.
NOTHING JESUS SAID OR DID WAS IN AFTERTHOUGHT. HE IS PERFECT, FULLY GOD AND FULLY MAN, THE WORD MAKE FLESH **
Genesis 18:18 (New International Version)
18 Abraham will surely become a great and powerful nation, and all nations on earth will be blessed through him.
Genesis 26:4
I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and will give them all these lands, and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed,
Deuteronomy 4:6
Observe them carefully, for this will show your wisdom and understanding to the nations, who will hear about all these decrees and say, "Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people."
THIS IS WHAT ISREAL FAILED TO DO, SO JESUS CAME AND LIVED OUT THE OT
Isaiah 52:10
The LORD will lay bare his holy arm in the sight of all the nations, and all the ends of the earth will see the salvation of our God.
Isaiah 56:7
these I will bring to my holy mountain and give them joy in my house of prayer. Their burnt offerings and sacrifices will be accepted on my altar; for my house will be called a house of prayer for all nations."
Zechariah 8:23
This is what the LORD Almighty says: **“In those days ten men from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, ‘Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you.’ **”
Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom **will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, **and then the end will come.
Mark 11:17
And as he taught them, he said, "Is it not written: " ‘My **house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’ ? **
SEE Isaiah 56:7 JESUS QUOTE OT
Luke 24:47
and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
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qui_est_ce
Guest
OOPS, that was seriously off topic. Please disregard
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tomarin
Guest
Grace, not to put too fine a point on it, but you are the one who is defending blasphemy, not me, so I hardly think you are in a position to accuse me of being a secular humanist. It is precisely because I am not a secular humanist that I can see and accept the Muslim point of view in the cartoon controversy.
But you are right about one thing: I do strongly believe in religious tolerance, and furthermore I think it is natural for theists of different religions to make common cause against the secular fundamentalism that threatens our way of life (and that actually threatens life, in the form of abortion).
I understand that you view Islam as a dangerous political ideology akin to Naziism. I think you’re wrong – I believe it’s a religion first and foremost. We’ll have to agree to disagree, but please know that I am trying to understand your point of view and why you feel that way.
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AlaricTeudisson
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We (Muslims and Christians) can understand each other’s position and not agree.
While a traditional Muslim should be able to understand our position, they will never agree and I don’t expect them to.
A Christian can never agree that Jesus is only a prophet. A Christian can never agree to not share their belief to those of other Faiths. A Christian can never say that all Religions are the Truth. A Christian will always oppose those who diminish the status of Jesus. A Christian cannot deny who Christ is. We should die first. (note that it is “die” not “kill”) Muslims should understand this strongly held, unshakeable belief. I also understand how they cannot agree with this position.
So…it is a waste of time to try to convince us that Islam is True and the real path and Christianity is not. What we all should be doing is living in peace. As a Christian, I cannot kill or persecute others. My charge is to love everyone and that all people are important in God’s eyes. The plain reading of the New Testament is that Jesus was God Incarnate and came for the forgiveness of our sins. He came to save people not kill them. You, as a Muslim, won’t agree with this. I just state this as the Christian Position.
Now many Christians throughout history have done bad things and violated Jesus’s commandments. This does not change Truth. It does not make a Christian falsify his belief in Jesus. It actually does the opposite. It shows us what a broken and troubled world this is and that we desperately need a Savior. How we cannot count on man but only Christ. The plain reading of the New Testament is that we should love everybody, even those who want to destroy us. That is a hard thing to do, but it is what true Christians believe we are called to do.
Do I hate Muslims? No….I cannot (well, I as a Christian am not supposed to hate). Do I think Islam is false? Yes, absolutely with no equivocation.
So when a Muslim asks why would God not approve of devout Muslims who hold Jesus in high esteem as a prophet and do good works and worship the one God, it just shows that they don’t understand the Christian position. It’s following Jesus and turning our life over to Him that makes us Christian.
As a Christian, we have to say that good works are not sufficient for anybody. Only Jesus is sufficient. The Jesus issue is the major conflict with Islam. It cannot be reconciled. We can live in peace, but we can never agree with each other’s theology.
On the other side, I understand Islam’s position on Jesus. I don’t agree with it and never will. No matter if you are going to cut my head off, I can’t agree on that. It’s that simple.
My response to the Muslim posters in this thread is to not try to justify your view of Christ and how we have the nature of Jesus all wrong. But, instead we should really discuss how we can coexist. I , as a Christian, can tolerate your belief in Allah while not agreeing with it.
Can true Muslim’s live in peace with people of other faith? Can a true Muslim allow people of other faiths to worship freely in a country that they control? Can a true Muslim allow for all religions to be freely debated in the marketplace of ideas in a country that they control?
What I hear from Muslim posters in this thread is “yes” to these questions. This answer conflicts with what I have seen in my travels, reading, and talking with other people.
In my country, the US, you can stand on the street corner and tell people about the God you worship and you won’t be arrested. You might be ignored and ridiculed. But if somebody throws a rock at you, the rock thrower will be arrested. I am not kidding. A Muslim can go downtown in my little Southern town and hold a sign up saying that Christianity is False and everyone should turn to the true religion of Islam and he would not be arrested. If somebody physically harmed him, the attacker would be thrown in jail. Could I do the same in Cairo saying that Islam is False? I don’t think so.
Can I do the same in Saudi, Dubai, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Libya, Nigeria, Somalia, the Sudan or you name the Islamic country? If the authorities did not grab you, the Muslim people in the street would kick your butt. I think that is what we are really contrasting. The closed nature of Islamic countries when it comes to religious tolerance seems extreme.
A verbal attack on Christianity in my country does not require violence in return. It seems that a verbal attack on Islam is considered a terrible offence in Muslim countries and creates a violent response. Witness the Danish cartoon fiasco. People died over a freakin cartoon. A cartoon lampooning the Prophet gets people killed. That is an incontrovertable fact!
So, in summary, I don’t hate Islam. I don’t fear Islam. I want the best for Muslim people but I believe they can only find that in and thru Jesus. That is not hatred. Can we coexist? Or must you destroy all opposition to Allah? Based upon anecdotal evidence, it seems like opposition to Allah is perceived as aggression and that gives Muslim’s the approval for a violent response.
We are never going to agree on Theology. Our beliefs are just too strongly held. But, we can and should learn to live together without subordinating ourselves to another’s beleif system. Freedom to choose our God. Freedom to believe. No matter what country we live in. Just my two cents.
While a traditional Muslim should be able to understand our position, they will never agree and I don’t expect them to.
A Christian can never agree that Jesus is only a prophet. A Christian can never agree to not share their belief to those of other Faiths. A Christian can never say that all Religions are the Truth. A Christian will always oppose those who diminish the status of Jesus. A Christian cannot deny who Christ is. We should die first. (note that it is “die” not “kill”) Muslims should understand this strongly held, unshakeable belief. I also understand how they cannot agree with this position.
So…it is a waste of time to try to convince us that Islam is True and the real path and Christianity is not. What we all should be doing is living in peace. As a Christian, I cannot kill or persecute others. My charge is to love everyone and that all people are important in God’s eyes. The plain reading of the New Testament is that Jesus was God Incarnate and came for the forgiveness of our sins. He came to save people not kill them. You, as a Muslim, won’t agree with this. I just state this as the Christian Position.
Now many Christians throughout history have done bad things and violated Jesus’s commandments. This does not change Truth. It does not make a Christian falsify his belief in Jesus. It actually does the opposite. It shows us what a broken and troubled world this is and that we desperately need a Savior. How we cannot count on man but only Christ. The plain reading of the New Testament is that we should love everybody, even those who want to destroy us. That is a hard thing to do, but it is what true Christians believe we are called to do.
Do I hate Muslims? No….I cannot (well, I as a Christian am not supposed to hate). Do I think Islam is false? Yes, absolutely with no equivocation.
So when a Muslim asks why would God not approve of devout Muslims who hold Jesus in high esteem as a prophet and do good works and worship the one God, it just shows that they don’t understand the Christian position. It’s following Jesus and turning our life over to Him that makes us Christian.
As a Christian, we have to say that good works are not sufficient for anybody. Only Jesus is sufficient. The Jesus issue is the major conflict with Islam. It cannot be reconciled. We can live in peace, but we can never agree with each other’s theology.
On the other side, I understand Islam’s position on Jesus. I don’t agree with it and never will. No matter if you are going to cut my head off, I can’t agree on that. It’s that simple.
My response to the Muslim posters in this thread is to not try to justify your view of Christ and how we have the nature of Jesus all wrong. But, instead we should really discuss how we can coexist. I , as a Christian, can tolerate your belief in Allah while not agreeing with it.
Can true Muslim’s live in peace with people of other faith? Can a true Muslim allow people of other faiths to worship freely in a country that they control? Can a true Muslim allow for all religions to be freely debated in the marketplace of ideas in a country that they control?
What I hear from Muslim posters in this thread is “yes” to these questions. This answer conflicts with what I have seen in my travels, reading, and talking with other people.
In my country, the US, you can stand on the street corner and tell people about the God you worship and you won’t be arrested. You might be ignored and ridiculed. But if somebody throws a rock at you, the rock thrower will be arrested. I am not kidding. A Muslim can go downtown in my little Southern town and hold a sign up saying that Christianity is False and everyone should turn to the true religion of Islam and he would not be arrested. If somebody physically harmed him, the attacker would be thrown in jail. Could I do the same in Cairo saying that Islam is False? I don’t think so.
Can I do the same in Saudi, Dubai, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Libya, Nigeria, Somalia, the Sudan or you name the Islamic country? If the authorities did not grab you, the Muslim people in the street would kick your butt. I think that is what we are really contrasting. The closed nature of Islamic countries when it comes to religious tolerance seems extreme.
A verbal attack on Christianity in my country does not require violence in return. It seems that a verbal attack on Islam is considered a terrible offence in Muslim countries and creates a violent response. Witness the Danish cartoon fiasco. People died over a freakin cartoon. A cartoon lampooning the Prophet gets people killed. That is an incontrovertable fact!
So, in summary, I don’t hate Islam. I don’t fear Islam. I want the best for Muslim people but I believe they can only find that in and thru Jesus. That is not hatred. Can we coexist? Or must you destroy all opposition to Allah? Based upon anecdotal evidence, it seems like opposition to Allah is perceived as aggression and that gives Muslim’s the approval for a violent response.
We are never going to agree on Theology. Our beliefs are just too strongly held. But, we can and should learn to live together without subordinating ourselves to another’s beleif system. Freedom to choose our God. Freedom to believe. No matter what country we live in. Just my two cents.
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Agabriel
Guest
I think that the ‘open mind’ needs to be practiced by the one who tells others to have one. (you)
Basically you have a Prophet who was always trying to get the ones who didn’t want to fight to do so. And so he would tell them that his Allah (Muhammed) was displeased. Muhammed would also up the anti with Allah’s gifts to them if they would fight. He gave them an orgy of women and little boys, figs, water, even some of Satan’s wine (I wonder if Allah made a bargain with Satan to supply him with that.). Basically, things that desert dwellers would find very appealing. A libido that would outdo their earthly bodies, and many women and little boys with an abundance of water, wine and food.
Muhammed needed money to fund his battles. He like the 1/5 of the loot and slaves that it gave to him too when he didn’t fight.
Finding beauty in these sorts of surahs is beyond me knowing that what these Jihadists do to get their rewards is beyond the pale. Mostly death, enslavement and later on, subjugation and humiliation and destitute lives so many were forced to convert.
And I only quote from the accepted translations, so don’t go there with the ‘I am not quoting them correctly’.
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Agabriel
Guest
I hate it that people have died for their pics of Muhammed. Now, why is there such a ‘rule’? It seems that Muhammed might have had a physical problem, besides all his mental problems that I posted previously.
Did Muhammed have acromegaly? Some of the descriptions of him point to that endocrine syndrome.
-Soft tissue swelling visibly resulting in enlargement of the hands, feet, nose, lips and ears, and a general thickening of the skin
-Soft tissue swelling of internal organs, notably the heart with attendant weakening of its muscularity, and the kidneys, also the vocal cords -resulting in a characteristic thick, deep voice and slowing of speech
-Generalized expansion of the skull at the fontanelle
-Pronounced brow protrusion, often with ocular distension
-Pronounced lower jaw protrusion with attendant macroglossia (enlargement of the tongue) and teeth gapping
-excessive sweating
http://www.faithfreedom.org/footprint.jpg
http://www.faithfreedom.org/muhammad_footprint.jpg
Quote from faithfreedom.org, also in his book, ‘Understanding Muhammad, A Psychobiography’ Chapter 4, pp155-161.
In the later years of his life Muhammad was affected by acromegaly, a disease caused by excessive production of a growth hormone, resulting in large bones, cold and fleshy hands and feet and coarse facial features such as enlarged lips, nose and tongue. Acromegaly occurs after the age of 40 and usually kills the patient in his early 60s. It causes impotence, while it increases libido. This explains Muhammad’s sexual vagaries in his old age and why in the later years of his life he had such an insatiable craving for sex. He would visit all his 9 wives in one night to touch and fondle them, without being satisfied. His impotence explains his insecurity, paranoia, and intense jealousy of his young wives. He ordered them to cover themselves, lest other men would cast a lusting eye on them. Today, half a billion Muslim women veil themselves, because Muhammad was impotent. Muhammad’s illnesses explain a lot of mysteries of Islam.
Definition: Acromegaly (from Greek akros “extreme” or “extremities” and megalos “large” - extremities enlargement) is a syndrome that results when the pituitary gland produces excess growth hormone (hGH) after epiphyseal plate closure. A number of disorders may affect the pituitary to create this circumstance, although most commonly it involves a GH producing tumor derived from a distinct type of cells (somatotrophs) and called pituitary adenoma. Acromegaly most commonly affects adults in middle age… some of the symptoms can be found in people who actually were closest to him - Hind ibn Abi Hala , and also some of Bukhari’s hadiths.
Some hadith that point to some thing amiss:
Bukhari Volume 7, Book 72, Number 793:
Narrated Anas :
The Prophet had big hands and feet, and I have not seen anybody like him, neither before nor after him, and his palms were soft.
Another biography of Muhammed by Ar-Raheeq Al_Makhtum has the description of his teeth being spaced and also large bones, a pronounced stoop, and other things that are described in the list of physical abnormalities when one has acromegaly.
Ka‘b bin Malik said: “When he was pleased, his face would shine with so bright light that you would believe that it was a moon-piece.” Once he sweated hot at ‘Aishah’s, and the features of his face twinkled; so I recited a poem by Abu Kabeer Al-Hudhali:
“If you watch his face-features, you will see them twinkling like the lightning of an approaching rain.”
Ibn Al-‘Abbas said: “His two front teeth were splitted so whenever he speaks, light goes through them. His neck was as pure and silvery as a neck of doll. His eyelids were long haired but his beard was thick. His forehead was broad; but his eyebrows were like the metal piece attached to a lance, but they were unhorned. His nose was high-tipped, middle-cambered with narrow nostrils. His cheeks were plain, but he had (little hair) running down like a rod from his throat to his navel. He had hair neither on his abdomen nor on his chest except some on his arms and shoulders. His chest was broad and flatted. He had long forearms with expansive palms of the hand. His legs were plain straight and stretching down. His other limbs were straight too. The two hollows of his soles hardly touch the ground. When he walks away he vanishes soon; but he walks at ease (when he is not in a hurry). The way he walks seems similar to one who is leaning forwards and is about to fall down.”
Anas said: “I have never touched silk or a silky garment softer than the palm of the Prophet’s …”
Did Muhammed have acromegaly? Some of the descriptions of him point to that endocrine syndrome.
-Soft tissue swelling visibly resulting in enlargement of the hands, feet, nose, lips and ears, and a general thickening of the skin
-Soft tissue swelling of internal organs, notably the heart with attendant weakening of its muscularity, and the kidneys, also the vocal cords -resulting in a characteristic thick, deep voice and slowing of speech
-Generalized expansion of the skull at the fontanelle
-Pronounced brow protrusion, often with ocular distension
-Pronounced lower jaw protrusion with attendant macroglossia (enlargement of the tongue) and teeth gapping
-excessive sweating
http://www.faithfreedom.org/footprint.jpg
http://www.faithfreedom.org/muhammad_footprint.jpg
Quote from faithfreedom.org, also in his book, ‘Understanding Muhammad, A Psychobiography’ Chapter 4, pp155-161.
In the later years of his life Muhammad was affected by acromegaly, a disease caused by excessive production of a growth hormone, resulting in large bones, cold and fleshy hands and feet and coarse facial features such as enlarged lips, nose and tongue. Acromegaly occurs after the age of 40 and usually kills the patient in his early 60s. It causes impotence, while it increases libido. This explains Muhammad’s sexual vagaries in his old age and why in the later years of his life he had such an insatiable craving for sex. He would visit all his 9 wives in one night to touch and fondle them, without being satisfied. His impotence explains his insecurity, paranoia, and intense jealousy of his young wives. He ordered them to cover themselves, lest other men would cast a lusting eye on them. Today, half a billion Muslim women veil themselves, because Muhammad was impotent. Muhammad’s illnesses explain a lot of mysteries of Islam.
Definition: Acromegaly (from Greek akros “extreme” or “extremities” and megalos “large” - extremities enlargement) is a syndrome that results when the pituitary gland produces excess growth hormone (hGH) after epiphyseal plate closure. A number of disorders may affect the pituitary to create this circumstance, although most commonly it involves a GH producing tumor derived from a distinct type of cells (somatotrophs) and called pituitary adenoma. Acromegaly most commonly affects adults in middle age… some of the symptoms can be found in people who actually were closest to him - Hind ibn Abi Hala , and also some of Bukhari’s hadiths.
Some hadith that point to some thing amiss:
Bukhari Volume 7, Book 72, Number 793:
Narrated Anas :
The Prophet had big hands and feet, and I have not seen anybody like him, neither before nor after him, and his palms were soft.
Another biography of Muhammed by Ar-Raheeq Al_Makhtum has the description of his teeth being spaced and also large bones, a pronounced stoop, and other things that are described in the list of physical abnormalities when one has acromegaly.
Ka‘b bin Malik said: “When he was pleased, his face would shine with so bright light that you would believe that it was a moon-piece.” Once he sweated hot at ‘Aishah’s, and the features of his face twinkled; so I recited a poem by Abu Kabeer Al-Hudhali:
“If you watch his face-features, you will see them twinkling like the lightning of an approaching rain.”
Ibn Al-‘Abbas said: “His two front teeth were splitted so whenever he speaks, light goes through them. His neck was as pure and silvery as a neck of doll. His eyelids were long haired but his beard was thick. His forehead was broad; but his eyebrows were like the metal piece attached to a lance, but they were unhorned. His nose was high-tipped, middle-cambered with narrow nostrils. His cheeks were plain, but he had (little hair) running down like a rod from his throat to his navel. He had hair neither on his abdomen nor on his chest except some on his arms and shoulders. His chest was broad and flatted. He had long forearms with expansive palms of the hand. His legs were plain straight and stretching down. His other limbs were straight too. The two hollows of his soles hardly touch the ground. When he walks away he vanishes soon; but he walks at ease (when he is not in a hurry). The way he walks seems similar to one who is leaning forwards and is about to fall down.”
Anas said: “I have never touched silk or a silky garment softer than the palm of the Prophet’s …”
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slyboots
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Charlemagne
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