Why do you, or don't you recieve Christ's blood at Holy Communion?

[miguel]

Trelow:

No sense in nit picking when the intent of the original post is obvious.

Huh?

Trelow:

Would you have been more offended if she were to ask: “Why do you or don’ t you glug wine flavored Jesus at Holy snack time?”

I wasn’t offended by the original question. But I certainly am by yours.

 

[Trelow]

The thing that used to tick me off so much about Catholics is the incessant nit picking about language, when the intent of the statement/question was so obvious.

And by all means one wold have to be offended if asked the question I posed. But to imply that anyone was denying the fullness of the Eucharist by asking that question is offensive as well.

 

[miguel]

Trelow:

The thing that used to tick me off so much about Catholics is the incessant nit picking about language, when the intent of the statement/question was so obvious.

And by all means one wold have to be offended if asked the question I posed. But to imply that anyone was denying the fullness of the Eucharist by asking that question is offensive as well.

All I did was answer the question and give my reasons for not receiving from the cup. I didn’t think the question implied any such thing. I simply understood the question as a Catholic who goes to Mass regularly, knows that receiving both species simultaneously is optional, and observes that some people receive from the cup while others don’t. People have all sorts of reasons for what they do. I gave mine.

 

[Minerva]

I’m 23 and have never in my life received the Blood. This is for 2 reasons. One is that I absolutely detest the taste of red wine, especially the cheaper stuff that churches use. I know my aversion to the taste would make it very difficult to receive the Blood reverently - I fear I would choke or gag on it even! Secondly, if I received the Blood after receiving the Body, I would have to chew and swallow the Body extremely quickly, something I do not want to do, since it again would feel irreverent.

 

[MeaCulpa]

I don’t for several reasons but mostly because it is redundant and not necessary. Having been raised before Vatican II, one never received the precious blood and it was totally sufficient to receive under one species. It also slows down the process and I doubt we would need all those EMHC’s if we did not have both species. Last on my list would be that I don’t like drinking after others with my impaired immune system.

 

[Brendan]

I do not receive from the chalice. It offers no additional Grace, but brings with it the danger of spillage and the expanded use of EMHC’s

I have also noted that it really seems to breed the Ultraquist heresy as well.

There are many people out there who erroneously (and heretically) believe it is somehow different in some way to the Host other than in physical appearance alone.

 

[shannon_e]

Since Jesus is fully present in the bread, I do not partake of the wine.

This is in part due to the fact that I want to return to my seat and give quiet thanks for what I have received, and in part due to the fact that I don’t like associating Jesus with alcohol.

The Precious Blood is offered at the chapel where I attend Daily Mass; but not at the Cathedral where I attend Sunday Mass.

Peace.

 

[Seven_Sorrows]

AHHHHHH,

I only read a few posts…and I am appauled. I think it is totally sick the excuses people are giving for not receiving the blood. Maybe Jesus will reject those people when they get to heaven as they reject him. I know I am going to take flack…but it is disgusting!!!

Yes you are truly getting Jesus in the bread, but if you really loved him, wouldn’t you want more? How can you walk up in line saying you want Jesus…then get a little and walk on by the rest? I wonder how many of his disciples rejected him at the last supper?

So I am sorry if you really believe you could get convicted of drunk driving, or you don’t want to incovienence your pew, or you want to meditate so bad, you skip Jesus.

Props out to the alcoholic though…good job.

As for the germ freaks, you might as well stay locked up cause you wouldn’t want to be in a room with 300 people close quarters…and hold hands…oh my! I would be willing to get sick for Jesus…but I would be willing to bet that daily communicants are less sick than the rest of us!

 

[Church_Militant]

I figure that I can trust God not to let me get some cold or flu (Or worse) if I’m being obedient to Him.

 

[Brendan]

Seven Sorrows:

AHHHHHH,

I only read a few posts…and I am appauled. I think it is totally sick the excuses people are giving for not receiving the blood. Maybe Jesus will reject those people when they get to heaven as they reject him. I know I am going to take flack…but it is disgusting!!!

Yes you are truly getting Jesus in the bread, but if you really loved him, wouldn’t you want more? How can you walk up in line saying you want Jesus…then get a little and walk on by the rest? I wonder how many of his disciples rejected him at the last supper?

What ‘More’ is there? Every reception of the Eucharist is the complete Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ. Whether it’s the smallest crumb, or a whole Tabernacle, it is the complete, indivisible Body and Blood of Jesus.

The only difference between the Consecrated Bread and the Consecrated Wine is how it appears to our humanly senses. That is the ONLY difference.

7Sorrows, If there was a priest with a ciborium next to the priest you just received the Host from, would you stop for a second host?

If not, why not? It is the exact same thing as receiving from the cup. The only difference is in how it feels in your mouth, and how it tastes.

Why not go to every priest, deacon, and EMHC and receive as many Hosts as you can? Do you not love Jesus enough to want more?

How can you walk up in line saying you want Jesus…then get a little and walk on by the rest?

Even if all you physically recieved was last crumb on the paten, You have recieved the Complete, Resurrected Jesus; Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity. There is no ‘more’ that one could possibly have.There is no ‘rest of Jesus’ that you haven’t already recieved.

 

[miguel]

Brendan:

…Even if all you physically received was the last crumb on the paten, You have received the Complete, Resurrected Jesus; Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity. There is no ‘more’ that one could possibly have.There is no ‘rest of Jesus’ that you haven’t already recieved.

Exactly.

 

[miguel]

Seven Sorrows:

…As for the germ freaks, you might as well stay locked up cause you wouldn’t want to be in a room with 300 people close quarters…and hold hands…oh my! I would be willing to get sick for Jesus…but I would be willing to bet that daily communicants are less sick than the rest of us!

We all have the option to receive or not from the cup. I opt not to. And in my small way, I am bearing witness to the doctrine that Jesus is fully present (body, blood, soul, and divinity) in either species. As for germs, I don’t want to expose myself unnecessarily. If it really was necessary, there might be situations where I would willingly take the risk or as you put it “get sick for Jesus”. In this situation, it is clearly not necessary.

 

[Seven_Sorrows]

Brendan:

What ‘More’ is there?

Yes it is true that we get the body blood soul and divinity of christ. But what more is there? HIS BLOOD!! This may sound redundant, but think about it. Jesus made his body and blood for a reason right? Or are you saying Jesus was pointless and didn’t think about it? You KNOW Jesus had more for his last supper than bread and wine…yet he chose those 2 to be passed on for all eternity (on earth). So don’t try to get all theological, just accept the gift that Jesus gave us, not make excuses why we don’t need it.

And yes I would recieve christ twice if I could, but their are church rules against it. Same reason why we can’t receive at more than one mass in a day (unless we are participating) because the holy see knew that every good catholic would just keep going to mass and receiving Jesus multiple times a day!

So again yes we do recieve both by receiving one, just as if at a crime scene their may be flesh in blood, or blood in flesh, but their is a big difference. Try giving a blood transfusion with a piece of flesh (because their is blood in it) or doing a skin graft with a pool of blood because their is flesh in it. Their is a difference.

 

[Seven_Sorrows]

miguel:

We all have the option to receive or not from the cup. I opt not to. And in my small way, I am bearing witness to the doctrine that Jesus is fully present (body, blood, soul, and divinity) in either species. As for germs, I don’t want to expose myself unnecessarily. If it really was necessary, there might be situations where I would willingly take the risk or as you put it “get sick for Jesus”. In this situation, it is clearly not necessary.

Well you also have the “option” to go to confession whenever you want but that doesn’t mean you don’t need it. We are required by the church to go once a year, so does that mean it is not necessary more??? No, but graces are out their for those who want them, so if you want to deny extra graces from God, that is fine, because it is “not necessary”. Yes we don’t get “more” of Jesus, but you can’t deny that we will get more graces.

Think about it this way. Not all masses have the cup and that is ok, because we get body and blood from the host. But also think about…why did Jesus consecrate both??? Just so we could choose??? I think not, because did you know that a priest HAS to have both the bread and wine??? he can’t “choose”. Makes ya think.

 

[Seven_Sorrows]

and as for the germ thing…I think it is hilarious. If you “germ a phobes” only knew about the germs on everyday things…you wouldn’t go or do anything like

-kiss your significant other
-be in a crowded room
-shake hands
-eat at a restaurant (bugs in food, cooks not washing hands after the bathroom, dropped food, sneezes, coughs)
-opening doors (examination of regular door handles shows feces)
-hepatitis can live on a surface for over a week
-you can get things like hepatitis from fruits and vegetables from farm workers who didn’t wash their hands
-better not ever have kids or even worse let them go to school, where they touch countless other kids and then touch/kiss you
-animal feces is found in most meat
-diseased animals are still made into meat to be eaten
-better not stay in a hotel - semen, blood, vomit, etc. is not properly washed off…most comforters and floors are not washed in hotels.

Just to name a new off the top of my head…but wait…
-better not recieve communion at all because the priest shakes hands with all the parishoners, and I doubt that dab of water he gets on his hands washes it off…then he touches all the hosts and then spreads the germs to us all anyway!!!

 

[Seven_Sorrows]

oh yeah and you can’t forget this one (used to happen to me often when I was a extraordinary minister of the eucharist…
-you give communion on the tounge…and that person goes crazy with their tounge and accidentally licks your finger!!!

 

[miguel]

Seven Sorrows:

Well you also have the “option” to go to confession whenever you want but that doesn’t mean you don’t need it. We are required by the church to go once a year, so does that mean it is not necessary more??? No, but graces are out their for those who want them, so if you want to deny extra graces from God, that is fine, because it is “not necessary”. Yes we don’t get “more” of Jesus, but you can’t deny that we will get more graces.

It’s not correct to say we get extra graces by receiving both species simultaneously. That is not the teaching of the Church.
Seven Sorrows:

Think about it this way. Not all masses have the cup and that is ok, because we get body and blood from the host. But also think about…why did Jesus consecrate both??? Just so we could choose??? I think not, because did you know that a priest HAS to have both the bread and wine??? he can’t “choose”. Makes ya think.

If you think Jesus insists that you receive both species, that’s your opinion, not Church teaching. There are other reasons he gave us both species: the separation of his body and blood represent his sacrificial death on the cross; in doing so he becomes the new passover lamb who is consumed, etc.

So please don’t look down on those of us who choose not to receive from the cup. The Church allows us that choice.

 

[Brendan]

Seven Sorrows:

Yes it is true that we get the body blood soul and divinity of christ. But what more is there? HIS BLOOD!! This may sound redundant, but think about it. Jesus made his body and blood for a reason right? Or are you saying Jesus was pointless and didn’t think about it? You KNOW Jesus had more for his last supper than bread and wine…yet he chose those 2 to be passed on for all eternity (on earth). So don’t try to get all theological, just accept the gift that Jesus gave us, not make excuses why we don’t need it.

7S,

We recieve the risen Jesus in the Eucharist. His body and Blood are united and are one single substance. There is no ‘more’. You have already recieved His Blood, but for some reason, you are thinking you are getting more of his blood. That cannot be, you already have the complete Christ within you. You cannot get ‘more’ of Christ’s blood anymore than you get more ‘Christ’ by having 2 hosts.

The Body and Blood of Christ can never be seperated again, as Jesus has conquered death and can never die, which is exactly happens when body and blood are seperated.

Christ consecrated both species as a symbol of his death, as the sacrifice. But look at this words. “THIS IS MY BODY”. Was Jesus dead? Were His Body and Blood seperated?

NO!

And, yes I will be Theological, because this is the most theological issue I know of, it’s the Source and Summit of the Church.

The Priest consecrates them seperatly as a representation of the Death of Christ. But when the Words of Institution are finshed, it is the Resurrected, complete and whole Jesus that is present in front of us. In both paten and chalice. In every particle or drop. United in one God, one Divine Substance. There is NO seperate Substance for Body and Substance for Blood.

I accept the gift Jesus gave me, His Body and Blood united in one single substance. WE RECIEVE HIS BLOOD WHEN WE RECIEVE CONSECRATED BREAD. I am not deluded into thinking I am getting something ‘more’ in the chalice than I have already recieved from the ciborium, so no excuses need be made.

 

[miguel]

Seven Sorrows:

and as for the germ thing…I think it is hilarious. If you “germ a phobes” only knew about the germs on everyday things…you wouldn’t go or do anything like

-kiss your significant other
-be in a crowded room
-shake hands
-eat at a restaurant (bugs in food, cooks not washing hands after the bathroom, dropped food, sneezes, coughs)
-opening doors (examination of regular door handles shows feces)
-hepatitis can live on a surface for over a week
-you can get things like hepatitis from fruits and vegetables from farm workers who didn’t wash their hands
-better not ever have kids or even worse let them go to school, where they touch countless other kids and then touch/kiss you
-animal feces is found in most meat
-diseased animals are still made into meat to be eaten
-better not stay in a hotel - semen, blood, vomit, etc. is not properly washed off…most comforters and floors are not washed in hotels.

Just to name a new off the top of my head…but wait…
-better not recieve communion at all because the priest shakes hands with all the parishoners, and I doubt that dab of water he gets on his hands washes it off…then he touches all the hosts and then spreads the germs to us all anyway!!!

Reasonable precautions can be (and I would argue should be, based on the 5th Commandment) taken to avoid infection.

I don’t kiss my family members when they’re sick. And I also don’t bring sick family members to holiday events to get everyone else sick.
I don’t double dip. And I avoid dips that have been double dipped, especially by snot nosed kids whose parents aren’t teaching them manners.
I prefer fresh air to crowded rooms.
I don’t worry about shaking hands unless I know the person is ill and then I’ll wash my hands afterwards so I can pick my nose worry free.
I wash my hands before I eat. My mom taught me that one. My wife teaches my kids to do the same.
I use my foot to flush and to get out of public restrooms. I wash my hands before exiting.
I don’t eat raw food off contaminated surfaces.
I don’t eat fruit unless I wash it first.
I don’t lay on hotel comforters or floors.
I don’t engage in sodomy, sleep with prostitutes, fornicate, adulterate, or share needles.

I let the immune system God gave me do the rest. Thank God I don’t get sick too often.

 

[kage_ar]

Church Militant:

I figure that I can trust God not to let me get some cold or flu (Or worse) if I’m being obedient to Him.

AMEN