Why do you think God allowed Protestantism?

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sambos671 said:
BTW Look3467 and Thornwald you don’t really believe those statements do you. You’re just having a joke right? Sometimes I miss the banter and take people seriously. We’re you trying to joke?
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There are a lot of answered questions, when we look at the historical battles of the past. Think of the following;
  1. Why is it, in both world wars, that Germany was defeated after they decided to fight Britain, Canada, Australia, U.S., etc. (The major countries tied originally to Britain and Protestantism)? Is it possible, that their defeat was related to 'Israelites fighting Israelites? Did the defeat of the German forces not provide the means by which the knowledge of atomic bombs passed to the U.S.? The knowledge of this powerful destructive technology was used for defensive purposes rather than offensive. It was harnessed before it could be used to totally devastate other countries in attempts to further imperialistic take-overs and enslavement.
  2. Why was Japan defeated, when they had everything going for them. Is it possible that devine intervention caused them not to make a second strike against Pearl Harbour, which would have allowed them to capture it? Why were the aircraft carriers not in port, as they usually were? Also,did the occupation of Japan not allow Protestantism to spread to Japan?
  3. Roman Catholicism was overcome by Protestantism in the formation of the USA. Why? R.C. was entrenched in the U.S. before the arrival of opposing Protestant intervention.
We cannot ignore history. It is history that raises questions as to why we are, where we are, at any time. Even the defeat of the Scottish Jacobites in their quest to return the Stuart name to the throne of England (after they made a pact with the RC of France) cannot be ignored. Was it devine intervention that sunk the RC fleet off of Dunkirk, so that they could not support the Jacobites?

Yes, subjective interpretation is required, but with the knowledge of biblical prophecy, and seeing what cumulatively has taken place in the world so far, it all seems to be adding up. The current financial/economic crisis now being felt throughout the world, just adds to the pile. I think that it is time to open our eyes. Something seems to be on the horizon. 🙂
 
Thorwald said:
🙂 Who said that the ‘grafting in’ process is complete? 🙂
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If they are the Lost Tribes, one would expect them to be Semitic right from the start. 🤷

It is more likely that the Lost Tribes are, in fact, lost, and that the Jews being referred to in your verse are simply those citizens of non-Israeli countries who happen to be Jewish.
 
Matariel said:
What kind of whimsical theory is this? What are these “Assyrian Tablets”? Can you give a link to a well-recognized scientific site?

Since the era of modern genetics, wouldn’t this be widespread news if it were true?

It sounds dubious.
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🙂 E.Raymond Capt has spent most of his life in the field of biblical archeology. He has written many books. I have not read his books, but have scanned summaries of his writings. If you doubt his interpretations of the Assyrian Tablets (These tablets document the captured Israelite’s history while they were in captivity.), then have someone else who is qualified, review his findings. 🙂
 
jmcrae said:
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If they are the Lost Tribes, one would expect them to be Semitic right from the start. 🤷

It is more likely that the Lost Tribes are, in fact, lost, and that the Jews being referred to in your verse are simply those citizens of non-Israeli countries who happen to be Jewish.
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🙂 Then the scripture in the Bible is false. 🙂
 
Thorwald said:
🙂 It is you that said that the lost tribes of Israel, are lost, not I. 🙂
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There are Jews who are scattered to the nations. They are not “lost,” they are Jews.

If there are any pure-blood members left of the 10 tribes that did not cross over the Jordan with Joshua, they aren’t tall, blonde, blue-eyed men from Northern Europe. That, I guarantee you.

But I seriously doubt that there are any pure-blooded Jews around, who “don’t know” that they are Jewish.
 
jmcrae said:
Not at all. Just your personal interpretation of it. 🙂
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🙂 I wonder what the results would be, if we were to compare DNA of the different European, Scandanavian, British, etc. countries to the DNA of the Jewish people. I suppose, that we would first have to figure out, who is a ‘true Jew’. I am sure that the whole Christian world would be interested in the results. Then we could start arguing about the accuracy of the test data (a whole new Simpson trial). 🙂
 
jmcrae said:
There are Jews who are scattered to the nations. They are not “lost,” they are Jews.

If there are any pure-blood members left of the 10 tribes that did not cross over the Jordan with Joshua, they aren’t tall, blonde, blue-eyed men from Northern Europe. That, I guarantee you.

But I seriously doubt that there are any pure-blooded Jews around, who “don’t know” that they are Jewish.
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🙂 “ALL ISRAEL” shall be saved. 🙂
 
jmcrae said:
Along with a great many gentiles. What does this prove? 🤷
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🙂 There are 12 tribes of Israel. You keep speaking of only the Jews. The majority of these same Jews, do not accept Christianity. Are you equating ‘Jews’ to ‘Israelites’? Even the Jewish rabbis that I corresponded with, do not do so. 🙂
 
Thorwald said:
🙂 There are 12 tribes of Israel. You keep speaking of only the Jews. The majority of these same Jews, do not accept Christianity. Are you equating ‘Jews’ to ‘Israelites’? Even the Jewish rabbis that I corresponded with, do not do so. 🙂
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By definition, Jews do not accept Christianity. Once they accept Christianity, they cease to be Jews, and they become Christians. 🙂
 
look3467 said:
Please understand, that under the current teachings of the church, or churches, you will not find to see it the way I told you.

All churches are structured to keep people in line by limiting knowledge.
So, to argue consistently from the stand point of a religious organizations point of view can only lead to divisions.

But to see Jesus clear and plainly as the Savior of the world, divisions matter nothing.
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Good thing you discovered this “hidden knowledge” that God has kept secret from the rest of the world. You ever heard of the Gnostics? I really think you have some things in common. Yes, God does love you, but he loves everyone else too. He would not keep the entire world in darkness of his truth. The New Covenant was to be spread to the whole world and to include both Jews and Gentiles, so that ALL could come to the knowledge of the truth. For this reason, Christ commissioned his apostles and gave them authority over the Church, and they spread his truth and hand picked others to continue their mission. The gates of hell cannot prevail against this Church that Christ founded. Not a church of hidden knowledge only consisting of a select few, but a Catholic (“universal”) Church to which all people are obliged to enter, though most do not. What do you make of the fact that Christ explicitly said that “few will be saved”? There are more references to hell in Scripture than there even are of heaven. But I’m guessing you have to disregard the Scriptures or at least explain them away since they do not agree with your own personal theories. Speaking of which, where did you get these ideas from? Did you come up with them on your own or did you learn them from somewhere else? I mean no disrespect. I’d just like to know what is the source of your ideas.
 
jmcrae said:
By definition, Jews do not accept Christianity. Once they accept Christianity, they cease to be Jews, and they become Christians. 🙂
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🙂 Assuming they are not part of, “There are those that say they are Jews, but are not.” 🙂
 
jmcrae said:
By definition, Jews do not accept Christianity. Once they accept Christianity, they cease to be Jews, and they become Christians. 🙂
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🙂 🙂 🙂 By the way, I think that we have to remember, that true Israelites will not lose their status of being ‘the chosen children of God’, when they become ‘Christians’. Becoming Christians is simply a fulfillment of prophecy (All Israel shall be saved.). 🙂 🙂 🙂
 
Hello, Wasn’t it ten tribes that come abroad and went into all the nations? so if the jews back then were the ones God was talking about, then who are they in Isreal now and what’s going to happen to them? because they do not beleive in Christ.And if the USA is part of the original jews how are they going to be bought back to Isreal? maybe USA will run out of jobs food ect. and through some disaster it will bring them back to their own land. But if they go back now there is nothing for them there. No jobs housing. I know the Lord works in mysterious ways,but where will there be any room for them there?Pray for the U.S.A. we are going down th drain love Nancy:(
 
This is the same fantasy the Hitler sold to the german people. And can be compared to Urania’s children.
 
nancy_dalrymple said:
Hello, Wasn’t it ten tribes that come abroad and went into all the nations? so if the jews back then were the ones God was talking about, then who are they in Isreal now and what’s going to happen to them? because they do not beleive in Christ.And if the USA is part of the original jews how are they going to be bought back to Isreal?
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Where are you people getting this stuff? :confused:

The USA is not “the original Jews.” It was founded by the Puritans.

Before that, it was populated by native Americans, who are genetically related to Asians who crossed from the Bering Strait from what is now Russia, to what is now Alaska, and then travelled throughout the Americas over a period of some centuries.
 
Uh, this is off-topic.

If we want to discuss this Lost Jews topic further, why don’t we start a new thread? 🤷
 
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