Why do you want Catholic Communion??????!!??!?!

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JonNC said:
Not from the Lutheran Confessions, that’s for sure. 😛

Not sure really, but it strikes me as the more modernist approach.

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The “the world owes me something approach” aka modernist approach lol
 
JonNC said:
You know, I don’t even think its a world owes me attitude, as much as it is “your belief is as good as mine”, or, “our differences don’t really matter”.

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Maybe…I have never met a Baptist or Methodist that wanted to take Communion with Catholics. Mostly I see it from Lutherans and those in the Anglican Communion.
 
aidanbradypop said:
Maybe…I have never met a Baptist or Methodist that wanted to take Communion with Catholics. Mostly I see it from Lutherans and those in the Anglican Communion.
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Yes, those communions that are sacramental. We share that belief with each other and with you. The others wouldn’t because they don’t believe in sacraments.

Jon
 
A Methodist friend of mine married a Catholic. His objections to being “excluded” went so far as to have his bride acquiesce and not have a Mass at their wedding at all.

I have spoken to him about it. He doesn’t believe in Transubstantiation, nor many other Catholic beliefs. I asked him why he wished to partake of something he didn’t believe in. He said it more a matter of principle, that Jesus would have invited everyone.

I told him he and everyone else IS invited, all he had to do was accept the truth behind what he wished to receive and join the Church. If he refuses to do this, then what more can be said? Jesus knew that his instance about his flesh being real food and his blood real drink would drive people away from him. It did in the Gospel of John, it still does today.
 
clem456 said:
There is a misplaced sense of freedom and rights at work. My protestant buddy’s favorite thing to say is “communion should be for everybody”. But when asked why he would participate in something he does not give his assent to, he has no answer. It should just be “for everybody”. As though a persons freedom to do something trumps the reality that is present.

(BTW…this is the same rationale used for abortion in many cases)
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Very interesting point.
 
Peter_J said:
Agreed. The same attitude is shared by a great many Catholics, with respect to Orthodox communion.
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I also think the sentiment has legs in central Europe among Catholic laity and some priests in regards Lutherans. They live so close together, have many mixed families. It isn’t just the Lutherans there calling for this.

Jon
 
Christ_is_Risen said:
A Methodist friend of mine married a Catholic. His objections to being “excluded” went so far as to have his bride acquiesce and not have a Mass at their wedding at all.

I have spoken to him about it. He doesn’t believe in Transubstantiation, nor many other Catholic beliefs. I asked him why he wished to partake of something he didn’t believe in. He said it more a matter of principle, that Jesus would have invited everyone.

I told him he and everyone else IS invited, all he had to do was accept the truth behind what he wished to receive and join the Church. If he refuses to do this, then what more can be said? Jesus knew that his instance about his flesh being real food and his blood real drink would drive people away from him. It did in the Gospel of John, it still does today.
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Methodists seem to have a range of beliefs regarding the sacrament. Being one does not necessarily mean he doesn’t believe in the real presence. Not believing Transubstantiation does not necessarily mean not believing the real presence. So, I’m not sure the John reference applies here.

Jon
 
I’m not sure what the reason. We did not have a Mass at our wedding because my husband’s family (although he grew up Congregational) is full of Baptists and Envangelicals and we would have had to make the “awkward announcement”. Some (not all) would have been offended at that announcement.

We went through a great deal of marriage preparation (much more than the average couple I think) that included both pre-cana meetings with the priest (3-4) AND an engagement encounter weekend. My family was/is very devout and at the time he was not a church goer. He attends Mass now, but will not convert. He has never had a desire to take communion, but each week its hard for me to go up and leave him behind. Makes me sad.
 
Christ_is_Risen said:
A Methodist friend of mine married a Catholic. His objections to being “excluded” went so far as to have his bride acquiesce and not have a Mass at their wedding at all.

I have spoken to him about it. He doesn’t believe in Transubstantiation, nor many other Catholic beliefs. I asked him why he wished to partake of something he didn’t believe in. He said it more a matter of principle, that Jesus would have invited everyone.

I told him he and everyone else IS invited, all he had to do was accept the truth behind what he wished to receive and join the Church. If he refuses to do this, then what more can be said? Jesus knew that his instance about his flesh being real food and his blood real drink would drive people away from him. It did in the Gospel of John, it still does today.
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John 35-71 speaks to this thought. They believe that everyone should partake in the Eucharist, yet when Christ offered himself as the bread of life, many rejected him. Do they really believe that Christ would want us all to commun together if He did not stop those that left him?
 
I guess I would ask the same question as to why some Catholics want to receive Communion in an Orthodox church.
 
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ConstantineTG:
I guess I would ask the same question as to why some Catholics want to receive Communion in an Orthodox church.
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never heard of this before?

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on_the_hill said:
I’d like to see some answers from non-Catholics…🙂

A coworker, (Lutheran, I think) asked rhetorically: “Who are *you *to tell me I can’t have Communion?” Frankly, he’s insulted by being excluded. My response is always the same, “You’re excluding yourself. Join the club and you can have Communion.”
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Great answer.👍
 
Christ_is_Risen said:
A Methodist friend of mine married a Catholic. His objections to being “excluded” went so far as to have his bride acquiesce and not have a Mass at their wedding at all.
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That’s probably not all that unusual. I think it would be more remarkable if a mixed Catholic-protestant wedding did include a mass (Catholic or otherwise).
 
aidanbradypop said:
You have heard me talk about my friend that was once an ELCA pastor. His son married a Catholic gal and my friend was outraged that his’ side of the family could not partake in th Eucharist at the Mass of the marriage of his son.
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What did the father really expect? 🤷 It’s sad that he felt entitled to commune with a church that is not in communion with his own. A “Lutheran” pastor should know better.

When my wife (a Roman Catholic) and I were married, we decided on a marriage ceremony outside the context of Mass so we could avoid the whole one-side-sits-in-the-pews-while-the-other-communes thing. Not that anyone on my side would have gone up to receive the Eucharist anyway - my father (an LCMS pastor) has taught my family members better than to receive from an altar with which we are not yet in doctrinal agreement. Instead, we just added a couple of extra hymns to the service. 😃

That said, I echo Jon’s sentiments - we should strive to reduce divisions in His church, but not at the expense of the sacraments.
 
SaintRita said:
I’m not sure what the reason. We did not have a Mass at our wedding because my husband’s family (although he grew up Congregational) is full of Baptists and Envangelicals and we would have had to make the “awkward announcement”. Some (not all) would have been offended at that announcement.

We went through a great deal of marriage preparation (much more than the average couple I think) that included both pre-cana meetings with the priest (3-4) AND an engagement encounter weekend. My family was/is very devout and at the time he was not a church goer. He attends Mass now, but will not convert. He has never had a desire to take communion, but each week its hard for me to go up and leave him behind. Makes me sad.
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Not meaning to pry, of course, but what is your husband official church affiliation? The Catholic Church does sometimes (although fairly rarely) permit intercommunion – for example, a member of the PNCC can receive communion from a Catholic priest.
 
Peter_J said:
Yes, that’s what I meant. I think both phenomena have the same roots.
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I missed your post 😃

But yeah, I think for Catholics to understand this question, they should ask those of their own who seem intent that the Orthodox allow them to receive. You are right, they probably have the same roots.
 
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