Why does God allow this to happen?

[Dorothy]

How is a baby who is born with some disease that kills it supposed to cooperate with Him?

And if the baby dies unbaptized then I guess the poor thing is really in a pickle.

And all that because of the fall of man?

When a baby is born with a disease, others, by the grace of God, come to the child’s aid. From that can come compassion, patience, and love. There are many handicapped people who have risen above their physical shortcomings and put to shame others with their faith, hope, and love. All this comes by the grace of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

A baby who dies unbaptized is, (as it is in the catechism) left to the mercy of God.

God, in His infinite love and wisdom has provided all we need to surmount the obstacles in this life.

 

[openmind77]

When a baby is born with a disease, others, by the grace of God, come to the child’s aid. From that can come compassion, patience, and love. There are many handicapped people who have risen above their physical shortcomings and put to shame others with their faith, hope, and love. All this comes by the grace of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

A baby who dies unbaptized is, (as it is in the catechism) left to the mercy of God.

God, in His infinite love and wisdom has provided all we need to surmount the obstacles in this life.

Like I said the baby is already dead, so no amount of compassion and aid can help it.

Actually your faith is admirable, but you seem to believe in a God who hands out suffering to everyone mainly on the basis of chance. If you find that explanation satisfactory and belief in such an unjust God strengthens your faith, then so be it.

But I think God is infinitely just as well as loving - nobody suffers for no fault of his own (unless he himself has chosen to).

As I said before, only when the Christ Returns will the truth of these matters be settled and this will happen soon.

 

[Dorothy]

Like I said the baby is already dead, so no amount of compassion and aid can help it.

Actually your faith is admirable, but you seem to believe in a God who hands out suffering to everyone mainly on the basis of chance. If you find that explanation satisfactory and belief in such an unjust God strengthens your faith, then so be it.

But I think God is infinitely just as well as loving - nobody suffers for no fault of his own (unless he himself has chosen to).

As I said before, only when the Christ Returns will the truth of these matters be settled and this will happen soon.

A baby is not “dead” when it physically dies. Its soul is immortal and in the hands of God.

We have the redemptive suffering of the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity as an example for us.
We then pick up our daily cross and follow Him. He can sanctify us and bring us into everlasting life.

When our Lord Jesus Christ returns all will understand the truth.

 

[openmind77]

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When our Lord Jesus Christ returns all will understand the truth.

I totally agree!

 

[GaryTaylor]

news-hound.org/5-month-old-baby-left-in-car-seat-for-8-days-no-food-water-or-diaper-changes-dies/

This precious little boy died suffering from an infection from not getting his diaper changed for 8 days they also did not feed him for 8 days, why does God allow such terrible people to have children?

The social teaching of the Church is Matthew 25. God created you to exist, you cannot “not exist”. This gives some insight into the “why” which is seen in our response. The ultimate question of “why” still remains a mystery of the infinite. The question why answered in regards to God also though is a slippery slope when you consult yourself in this regard. We are responsible for all of them, and “especially” when this dawns on you, and for the simple reason that we cannot be all we are suppose to be., until they are all they are suppose to be. And obviously there is much more work to do. The general judgment, Jesus Christ comes to judge the “quick” and the “dead.”

The “quick” are responsible for the “dead” till He arrives.

May He be blessed forever!

 

[Credo_in_Deum]

You can tell that to the Christ when he Returns, so that He won’t dare contradict you.

LOL, I won’t need to tell it to Him. But good luck listening to Him when he reaffirms the falsehood of reincarnation. I imagine it will be difficult for you since you haven’t listened to Him on a number of other things, like One God, One Baptism (also weird if we are to be reincarnated), one Faith, and Christ being the Way the Truth and the Life, etc. For someone who acknowledges Christ as an Authority on doctrine, you sure have a funny way of showing it.

 

[openmind77]

LOL, I won’t need to tell it to Him. But good luck listening to Him when he reaffirms the falsehood of reincarnation. I imagine it will be difficult for you since you haven’t listened to Him on a number of other things, like One God, One Baptism (also weird if we are to be reincarnated), one Faith, and Christ being the Way the Truth and the Life, etc. For someone who acknowledges Christ as an Authority on doctrine, you sure have a funny way of showing it.

Sure I acknowledge the Christ as an Authority, but I don’t acknowledge you or the Church as the final authority on anything. You should be prepared to be shocked when the Christ returns and corrects many of the mistakes made by the Church.

I am afraid many like you will reject the Christ when he returns because he does not agree with you on so many things. I don’t have any dogmas that are dearer to me than God or the Christ - if he says I am wrong, so be it.

 

[tonyrey]

*Discovering this forum was one of the best things that has happened to me. I have shared my ideas and learnt so much from others I feel - and am - part of a international community with the same interests and values. We are all immature in the sight of God but that is the purpose of life: to develop into loving persons who make the most of what we have and help others who are less fortunate. Youre on the right road, Robert. *

You too are on the right road, John.

 

[Credo_in_Deum]

Sure I acknowledge the Christ as an Authority, but I don’t acknowledge you or the Church as the final authority on anything.

Oh by no means consider me a final authority; however, you should know that Christ and the Church cannot be separated my friend. He is the head and the Church is His mystical body. Hence the Church is the final authority. It is the Way the Truth and the Life.

God bless.

 

[openmind77]

Oh by no means consider me a final authority; however, you should know that Christ and the Church cannot be separated my friend. He is the head and the Church is His mystical body. Hence the Church is the final authority. It is the Way the Truth and the Life.

God bless.

Looks like the Church is the final authority until it is proven wrong - like the Sun revolves around the earth.

 

[Nogginer]

God allows evil in the world because we have free will. Why do we have free will? Because we could not truly love God without it. God did not want to make robots who just did what he wanted because they had no other choice. God made us so that we could love Him, so we must also have free will. Unfortunately, since Adam and Eve chose not to obey God, physical evil entered the world and moral evil has abounded. Of course we know the Good News, however, that God has sent His Son, an Innocent, as others have already pointed out, the Perfect Sacrifice, to suffer for us and to save us from the sin and death that we have brought upon ourselves. WE caused the problem. The MERCY and LOVE of GOD is why that baby could be in heaven.

 

[GEddie]

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Looks like the Church is the final authority until it is proven wrong - like the Sun revolves around the earth.

The movement of the sun was not a matter of doctrine.

Are you Prepared to be proven wrong, should our LORD show up not to teach reincarnation but to bring in Everlasting Life?

God Bless, ICXC NIKA.

 

[openmind77]

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The movement of the sun was not a matter of doctrine.

Are you Prepared to be proven wrong, should our LORD show up not to teach reincarnation but to bring in Everlasting Life?

God Bless, ICXC NIKA.

Sure I am prepared to be proven wrong - I am not wedded to any of my beliefs.

But I think a lot a Catholics (maybe more than half) are ready to reject the Christ when he Returns if He does not confirm and agree with their cherished beliefs.

 

[GEddie]

Sure I am prepared to be proven wrong - I am not wedded to any of my beliefs.

But I think a lot a Catholics (maybe more than half) are ready to reject the Christ when he Returns if He does not confirm and agree with their cherished beliefs.

That is because if “He” did not return physically to raise the dead and bring Everlasting Life, but instead to teach a foreign doctrine that was, btw, already well known when He came the first time; “He” would not be the LORD we know.

ICXC NIKA

 

[openmind77]

That is because if “He” did not return physically to raise the dead and bring Everlasting Life, but instead to teach a foreign doctrine that was, btw, already well known when He came the first time; “He” would not be the LORD we know.

ICXC NIKA

That is exactly my point. You have already decided you have understood and know what your Lord is. Of course, he will not contradict anything he himself has previously said, but you may be surprised how much he differs from church dogmas.Anyway, I suggest you prepare yourself since the time is short.

 

[GEddie]

That is exactly my point. You have already decided you have understood and know what your Lord is. Of course, he will not contradict anything he himself has previously said, but you may be surprised how much he differs from church dogmas.Anyway, I suggest you prepare yourself since the time is short.

If you are right and all there is to look ahead to is reincarnation, there would be nothing to prepare for!

ICXC NIKA.

 

[oldcelt]

If you are right and all there is to look ahead to is reincarnation, there would be nothing to prepare for!

ICXC NIKA.

I think it was Ghandi who said something to the effect that “The notion of reincarnation is too great a burden to bear.” I’m with him…the thought of doing this over again sickens me. If it were to be true, I hope there is an opt out line.

 

[GEddie]

I think it was Ghandi who said something to the effect that “The notion of reincarnation is too great a burden to bear.” I’m with him…the thought of doing this over again sickens me. If it were to be true, I hope there is an opt out line.

Gandhi, really, wasn’t he a believer of reincarnation?

ICXC NIKA

 

[openmind77]

I think it was Ghandi who said something to the effect that “The notion of reincarnation is too great a burden to bear.” I’m with him…the thought of doing this over again sickens me. If it were to be true, I hope there is an opt out line.

I am afraid there is no way to opt out, unless you manage to get enlightened in one lifetime (usually it takes many lifetimes to achieve liberation). But the burden is not that great since you don’t remember previous lifetimes, so it feels like starting afresh each time (although the soul remembers all lives).

However, karma and reincarnation are the only concepts that satisfactorily explain the disparities between people - why some are born with so much good luck and good fortune while others have such miserable and difficult lives. We have all gone through both types of lives and because of them grown to become more complete human beings and one day we will be ready to graduate from this world and go on to better things.

 

[GEddie]

I am afraid there is no way to opt out, unless you manage to get enlightened in one lifetime (usually it takes many lifetimes to achieve liberation). But the burden is not that great since you don’t remember previous lifetimes, so it feels like starting afresh each time (although the soul remembers all lives).

However, karma and reincarnation are the only concepts that satisfactorily explain the disparities between people - why some are born with so much good luck and good fortune while others have such miserable and difficult lives. We have all gone through both types of lives and because of them grown to become more complete human beings and one day we will be ready to graduate from this world and go on to better things.

You seem to be more Hindu than Catholic.

ICXC NIKA