Why does God let bad things happen to good people?

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I asked God to take away my freewill. I can’t handle it. All I do is make a mess of my life. I told God I wanted Him to take control of my life.
That ain’t going to happen.

It is obvious that God cannot be the direct source of evil.Evil is not something in itself, that it is not a positive thing, but something privative. It cannot be the object of a positive creative act.

It is clear that God does not directly intend evil as such. In fact, no rational being ca n desire evil if it is apprehended merely as evil.

God permits moral evil in that he does not impede it, though he prohibits it by his law. We can see several reasons for this negative permission:
  1. God is self-sufficient, and althogether independent of the work of his hans. He would be limited in his operations by the malice of human beings if he were constrained to prevent moral iniquity.
  2. It is the function of providence to preserve and not to destroy, the nature of the thing that is governed. Liberty of choice, even between good and evil, is of the nature of the freedom mankind.
  3. the morally good is rendered more desirable. The iniquity of man forms a background for the manifestation of some of the divine attributes. We see in the divine tolerance for sin, the evidence of bounless mercy and patience of God.
  4. It does not pertain to divine providence to bring about the total exclusion of evil from the universe, but to order to some good end whatever evils may arise. St. Augustine lays down a principle that God would not permit evil were it not for the consequent good. God permits moral evil in one case, in order that greater moral good may obtain in another. St. Thomas says that the wickedness of Nero led to the gaining of many martyrs’ crowns.
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Then he didn’t create perfection. If we were created with the ability to be flawed, how is this perfection? There’s nothing in the scripture that says God created a perfect world. It seems to me that if that was His intent, there wouldn’t even be a tree of knowledge of good and evil.
I don’t know…the Garden of Eden sounds pretty perfect to me.

If I were immortal, and would never grow old or die or get sick or injure myself,… if I didn’t have to worry about wild animals or need clothes to keep warm. and if I had fresh food to eat when ever I felt hungry and didn’t have to work for it,…

But I think we are getting off track. The question is, “Why does God let bad things happen to good people?” The answer is that we have collectively brought all this upon ourselves. Those who love God are stuck here with those who hate until Jesus returns and sets everything straight again.
 
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I don’t know…the Garden of Eden sounds pretty perfect to me.

If I were immortal, and would never grow old or die or get sick or injure myself,… if I didn’t have to worry about wild animals or need clothes to keep warm. and if I had fresh food to eat when ever I felt hungry and didn’t have to work for it,…

But I think we are getting off track. The question is, “Why does God let bad things happen to good people?” The answer is that we have collectively brought all this upon ourselves. Those who love God are stuck here with those who hate until Jesus returns and sets everything straight again.
We are not ‘stuck’ here. We are here to work out our salvation. You believe you’ve been saved and you are just waiting for some future event. There are no guarantees about your salvation; you have to work it out daily.

It is clear that God does not directly intend evil as such. In fact, no rational being ca n desire evil if it is apprehended merely as evil.

You want to run off on a tangent about how bad it is here on earth. It aint that bad, otherwise mankind wouldn’t want to leave it.

For answer to the thread, see my post #11. It ain’t me, it’s St. Thomas Aquinas.

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You want to run off on a tangent about how bad it is here on earth. It aint that bad,…
The world we are living in belongs to satan. Therefore I say it is that bad.

Adam and Eve disobeyed God and chose to follow satan. They were expelled from paradise (ie the Garden of Eden) and every human being since has been living in satan’s world.

And that is why God lets bad things happen to good people?
 
The world we are living in belongs to satan. Therefore I say it is that bad.

Adam and Eve disobeyed God and chose to follow satan. They were expelled from paradise (ie the Garden of Eden) and every human being since has been living in satan’s world.

And that is why God lets bad things happen to good people?
Wrong, Wrong, and Wrong.

I believe you are a Manichaean, Ginger.

This is what happens to you with the ‘gift’ of private interpretation of Scripture.

“The rain falls on the just and the unjust alike”.

This is not satan’s world. This is God’s world. His creation. The devil didn’t create it, and God didn’t give it over to Satan.

I guess you believe that your human nature is evil, and every thing any rational creature does is evil.

Jesus told us to take up our Cross, daily, and come follow Him.

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Wrong, Wrong, and Wrong.
RIGHT!
This world is of the devil. John 15:18-19

RIGHT!
Read Genesis 3. God told Adam and Eve not to eat from the tree in the center of the Garden. The serpent, who is satan, said eat from the tree ands you will be like gods. Adam and Eve disobeyed God and followed satan.
This is what happens to you with the ‘gift’ of private interpretation of Scripture.
YOU GET IT RIGHT! 👍
 
You mean like from the Wizard of Oz?
I’ll have you know I am 5’ 7’’! 🙂
Manichaeism is a heresy arising in the 3rd century. This was a dualistic system according to which the world was produced by two eternal and more or less equal principles, light and darkness.
God cannot create anything evil. This is an heresy.

It was first condemned by the Council of Nicea, 325 AD, by proclaiming that God is 'the Creator of all things, visible and invisible, that is of the material world as well as the spiritual world.

Manichaeism has proven to be a persistent heresy. During the Middle Ages the Catholic Church had to fight against various manifestations of this heresy: At the Fourth Council of the Lateran, 1215 AD, setting forth the true faith against the Albigensians, declaring God 'to be the one priniciple of all things visible and invisible, spiritual and corporeal, who from the beginning of time, by his almighty power, created from nothing both the spiritual and the corporeal, the angelical and the mundane world of creatures, and finally human creatures.

Lastly, the Catholic Church had to declare against the errors of the 19th century athetists, materialists, and all kinds of pantheists, at the First Vatican Council, 1870 AD.

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“Credo in unum Deum, Patrem omnipotem, factorem caeli et terrae, visibilium et invisibilium…”
 
RIGHT!
This world is of the devil. John 15:18-19

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The Manichaeans laughed the early Christians to scorn because they believed in the resurrrection of the body, and they venerated the mangled bodies of the martyrs.

They held that God is not great enough to overcome the devil, just as you quote to us John 15: 18,19

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The Manichaeans laughed the early Christians to scorn because they believed in the resurrrection of the body, and they venerated the mangled bodies of the martyrs.

They held that God is not great enough to overcome the devil, **just as you **quote to us John 15: 18,19
What!!!

mgrfin, why do you make stuff up that I didn’t say? Reference the post where I am supposed to have said “God is not great enough to overcome the devil,”
 
Here are more Bible verses to support that this world is satan’s domain:

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].
2Cr 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Jhn 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
 
What!!!

mgrfin, why do you make stuff up that I didn’t say? Reference the post where I am supposed to have said “God is not great enough to overcome the devil,”
With you around, Ginger, I don’t have to make anything up.

Your post #48:
“This world is of the devil. John 15:18-19”

God made something evil? That is heretical!!!

peace.
 
Here are more Bible verses to support that this world is satan’s domain:

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].
2Cr 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Jhn 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
Jesus came into the world to save the world. The world is not evil or satan’s domain.

You keep digging your heresy deeper and deeper.

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With you around, Ginger, I don’t have to make anything up.

Your post #48:
“This world is of the devil. John 15:18-19”

God made something evil? That is heretical!!!
You insinuated that I said "God isn’t great enough to overcome the devil. but maybe I misunderstood. So forget it.
 
What specifically did I say God created evil? I don’t remember saying that.
 
BTW, that was rather slick the way you posted my quote without saying anything. Then went in to edit it by adding your comments. 🙂

Did you do that on purpose? Or was it an accident?
 
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