Spirit:
I’ll bet I wouldn’t, and I haven’t. You can search my 2000+ posts here, and you’ll find instances where I have. I have corrected protestants here who claim you worship Mary.
I think CAT posted it earlier but they wouldn’t call their own denominations or even congregations Christian. It is the act that you hold Jesus as your personal saviour and beliving in the Trinty, not church membership which makes you a Christian.
Well be that as it may, you understand your error now, and I’m sure will not make it again. Blessings to you this Holy week.
Yes, any many RC’s hold to strange interpretations that directly conflict with Catholic dogma and with various Protestant interpretations. Many Muslims no doubt do the same. The point is his remarks were inclusive in and we have learned all of us that it never fair to refer to any such diverse group be they a racial group, gender, or religious as meaning everyone. They most certainly are always wrong in such a case, and prove the speaker to be not worth listening to .
As far as I can tell, the two Roman Catholic churches in my area have been around well over 50 years, I’m thinking probably double that in the state certainly. I’m originally from Michigan, my relatives and best friends were all Roman Catholic since I was a child. I was Catholic for a goodly number of years, very very devote for most of them.
You say that my church doesn’t participate in that, and then refer to what is preached from “your” pulpits and what goes on at “your faith gatherings” I am sorry for what happened to your child, or what you think happened. In any case, an anecdotal incident doesn’t make a rule of thumb. The fact is that most mainline Protestant denominations are completely uninterested in the RCC and have no interest in proselytizing at all.
Many is not most, and certainly not all. I would have to seem some statistics before I could agree that most do. I think it tends to be in the more fundamentalist born again groups, but even there I would not be the one to claim they all would believe RC’s not Christian. I don’t think you find it in any mainline Protestant denominations. prove me wrong if you can, but i would be surprised if you could. SDA would be one I might agree would be about that business, but perhaps that clouds your judgment a bit.
Do you consider Non-denominational or Baptist “mainline”? I have been told by both that they fear for my soul.
I must beg to differ with you on this one. For one, any Calvinist denom preaches from their pulpit, yes from the pulpit that all Catholics are going to hell. SDA’s are equally as bad as are the Pentocostals, Apostolics, and Assemblies of God. I agree that mainline…ie Anglican, Methodist, Episcopals usually dont. But I stress to all Catholic Parents…dont let your children attend non-Catholic churches or functions.
I tend to agree. I went to an “ecumenical” Bible study once. It was a “this is about how wrong CAtholics are about the Bread of Life Discourse”
It is more than that. Even if a Catholic told them that he/she had accepted Jesus Christ as personal savior, they consider Catholicism a legalistic system that bases salvation on works, and is therefore a false religion. Then too, many Protestant religions do not believe in Once Saved Always Saved, so even if you had on some occasion accepted Jesus Christ as your personal savior, if you continue in a religion which they consider pagan and idolatrous they would not consider you saved currently.
I don’t consider several “mainstream” Protestant religions to be Christian. They don’t even believe in sin or Satan.
Carl,
It’s kind of the chicken-or-the-egg thing, you know? Some would say that Martin Luther was reforming the Church from within up until the time he was excommunicated. Others would say that before he was excommunicated, Luther had already separated himself from the Church through disobedience, and that the excommunication just made to separation formal.For what little I know of Lutheranism, it’s true, the main beliefs are early church creeds and church fathers. I guess it’s the name, Lutheranism…that doesn’t help people to differentiate between the founder and the set of beliefs. And, we can’t help wishing that he had reformed the church from within [as others have done] rather than starting anew…but some things neither you nor I can change!
Those two plus the Orthodox are the main ones. There’s also the Old Catholics and the Polish National Catholic Church (PNCC), but they’re a lot smaller.One thing I like about Lutheranism is that the Athanasian Creed is more prominently talked about, than among Catholics, at least Latin Rite. Now, that creed is one beautiful piece of wisdom!
Lutherans consider themselves Catholic, right? Like Anglicans & Episcopalians? Is there anyone else that is that similar to Catholicism? [Sacraments, Creeds, Patristics, etc.]
P.S. On second thought, I should have said “Most reasonable-minded people will agree that he tried to reform the Church from within.” There will always be some who say that Luther didn’t try to reform the Church at all, but rather tried to destroy it because he hated God, etc.
- Evangelicalism is spiritually powerful because it does not let the individual get lost as one member of of a collectivity. Besides - love is personal, individual. St Paul says “Christ…gave Himself for me” - that is as important as "Christ loved the Chuch and gave himself for her (or:it - the grammar can be translated either way).Truth,
