Why doesn't God heal homosexuals?

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If you had written that in a reasonably, grammatically correct manner I may have an idea as to what you’re talking about.
 
Andy_82 said:
You piker. You left out Romans 1:25 intentionally. “They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen” The next line, Romans 1:26 then goes into what they did to worship the creature. AKA: a pagan fertility goddess.
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I think this would answer your question providing that I already asked this question regarding St. Paul and Homosexuality.

I like Vouthon’s answers
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Does Romans 1:26-27 condemn shrine prostitution or same sex intercourse? Or both? Sacred Scripture
I don’t think one would necessarily exclude the other, so I’m inclined to agree.
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Wow. This Thread is going down fast! Tisk tisk 🤨
 
Rau said:
The Church has no position on the cause of same sex attractions and science scarcely understands it either.
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Poppycock. We know it’s part genetic (small), part environmental (large). We know that in most cases the environmental triggers kick in before the child reaches puberty. We know conversion therapy doesn’t work. What else would you like to know?
 
I am so confused about what is going on, all the sudden I get something with my name in it.
 
Oh your picture just popped up because you were the one who was last to answer on that thread. Sorry 😅
 
Which only confounds me further: how can you agree in one thread that this particular passage refers to pagan idol worship and then use it as an anti-gay cudgel here? Homosexual acts as part of a fertility rite and homosexual acts as a part of a loving relationship are not one and the same.
 
Joe1 said:
Elsewhere Paul again warns that homosexual behavior is one of the sins that will deprive one of heaven
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Personally, if i was Paul then i’d be mindful of people in glass houses throwing stones. Just saying.
 
stupidisasstupiddoes said:
We know it’s part genetic (small), part environmental (large).
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Well, that makes for a clear picture of the cause. Though in no way enough to guess at either prevention or cure. Part “Genetic” and part “environmental” 🤔 Yeah, that probably could explain quite a few things. 😂🤣
 
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Andy_82 said:
how can you agree in one thread that this particular passage refers to pagan idol worship and then use it as an anti-gay cudgel here? Homosexual acts as part of a fertility rite and homosexual acts as a part of a loving relationship are not one and the same.
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The question is dear Andy is how can you agree that God accepts Homosexual sex when he condemns it in the old testament, also new testament, including the fact that he only created one Marriage.
 
Rau said:
We know it’s part genetic (small), part environmental (large).

Well, that makes for a clear picture of the cause. Though in no way enough to guess at either prevention or cure. Part “Genetic” and part “environmental” 🤔 Yeah, that probably could explain quite a few things.
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Deliberate partial quote to ignore the fact that all ‘cures’ have failed ranging from electric shocks which shamefully killed Alan Turing, a man you should thank for the fact you aren’t writing German right now, to whatever the flip those redneck evangelical’s try and do when they ‘pray the gay away’.
 
It’s for a similar reason, the language of the OT loses much of its context in translation. Remember that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is not a story condemning homosexuality. But, sexual violence as a violation of the Hebronic laws of hospitality. The others are of a similar context. How can you not know this by now? This is common theological information today.
 
There are different levels of Miracles; with SPIRITUAL Miracles being the most rare. Yet they Do happen

Life is THEE GOD TEST; meaning we are created to Know, Love, Serve, Obey God or to freely choose to HATE Him. This is true for ALL of humanity; REAS Isaiah 43 7 & 21 …[7] And every one that calleth upon my name, I have created him for my glory, I have formed him, and made him. & [21] This people have I formed for myself, they shall shew forth my praise

So we; each and everyone of us WILL BE challenged to prove time & time again until death; our decisions to love or to HATE God. Jesus the Carpenter CUSTOM designs crosses for each and everyone of us.

HE DESIGNS: we ARE to accept and carry them,

TAKE UP YOUR CROSS

Lk 14:27 And whosoever doth not carry his cross and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

Phil 2:8 He humbled himself, becoming obedient unto death, even to the death of the cross.

Mk 8: 34 And calling the multitude together with his disciples, he said to them: If any man will follow me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me

Lk 9:23 And he said to all: If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me

None of us get to choose their own cross; and each of us can only attain heaven by accepting the one crosse Jesus builds for US; with HIS GRACE; which is ALSO God’s plan to increase our Faith our reliance on HIM. AMEN

Pray very much
Patrick
 
Andy_82 said:
It’s for a similar reason, the language of the OT loses much of its context in translation. Remember that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is not a story condemning homosexuality. But, sexual violence as a violation of the Hebronic laws of hospitality. The others are of a similar context. How can you not know this by now? This is common theological information today.
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So was Jude wrong?
 
Joe1 said:
Personally, if i was Paul then i’d be mindful of people in glass houses throwing stones. Just saying.

Why? Is he not allowed to explain that some sins are serious?

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Indeed many sins are serious. How serious do you consider murder out of interest?
 
Paul the Persecutor never knew Christ and we only have his books because Emperor Constantine obliterated the writings of the others as he found Paul’s useful. He was a tyrant and Paul’s words can only be taken at face value and with a lot of historical context as a result.
 
How’s this for a cherry pick?

Here’s a good quote from St Peter Damian on same sex and the priesthood.
“This vice is the death of bodies, the destruction of souls, pollutes the flesh, extinguishes the light of the intellect, expels the Holy Spirit from the temple of the human heart, introduces the diabolical inciter of lust, throws into confusion, and removes the truth completely from the deceived mind. It prepares snares for the one who walks, and for him who falls into the pit, it obstructs the escape. It opens up hell and closes the door of paradise. It makes the citizen of the heavenly Jerusalem into an heir of the Babylonian underworld. From the star of heaven, it produces the kindling of eternal fire. It cuts off a member of the Church and casts him into the voracious conflagration of raging Gehenna. For it is this which violates sobriety, kills modesty, slays chastity. It butchers virginity with the sword of a most filthy contagion. It befouls everything, it stains everything, it pollutes everything, and for itself it permits nothing pure, nothing foreign to filth, nothing clean,” he states.

…"Of those who participate in such relationships…his flesh burns with the fury of lust, his frigid mind trembles with the rancor of suspicion, and chaos now rages hellishly in the heart of the unhappy man while he is vexed by as many worries as he is tortured, as it were, by the torments of punishment. Indeed, once this most poisonous snake has sunk its teeth into an unhappy soul, sense is immediately taken away, memory is removed, the sharpness of mind is obscured; it becomes forgetful of God, it forgets even itself.”
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He nailed it.

And don’t we have people in the lobby who have forgotten themselves, questioning their own identity.
 
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