The truth is straight unbarnished and hard, sugarcoating it makes it more easily dismissed and scoffed away, specially by today’s secularized society, i like Vori’s style, it gets people attention, some people don’t like it, so what.
i prefer to live a hard truth than a sweet half-truth or worse, a lie. God bless Michael Voris for his heroic effort.
Is it true that Mr. Voris is a polarizing figure even among orthodox Roman Catholics?
It would appear so, although I did not realize that until recently. “Polarizing” may not be the best descriptor,
Respectfully, and not to single you out, Steve. But you admit limited exposure to him so what are you basing your yes, he is “polarizing” to Orthodox Catholics on? I don’t even know what that vague question means. Even some of the public priests are polarizing to “Orthodox” Catholics. EWTN is supposed to represent Orthodox Roman Catholics? Haven’t they been sliding a little since Mother Angelica hasn’t been heading that ship?? I’ve seen Traditionalist circles, praise Voris, and their critiques with him, isn’t because he is heterodox or anything.
Nor is it w/ ‘charity’
Voris is only polarizing to those who are victim to the 21st Century Politically Correct Mentality. The ones who assume the only way to carry a message is to talk like the people on NPR. That is being adult “charitable” & civilized.
He only gets flack for the commentaries he does on the Vortex. He is no less faithful and devoted to the cause than the people on EWTN radio, etc. He used his retirement money to invest in his work. He seems motivated authentically for the Faith.
It’s all about the PC. Voris isn’t afraid to brazenly say non-anonymously & unapologetically, The CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE ONE TRUE FAITH. And that bothers people. One should watch his interview with Catholic Canadian, Michael Coren; he’s not really an uncharitable dude. Michael Coren has been on EWTN radio, so Voris is still not separated from the others in Catholic Media. Like Liz said, it’s like Wendy’s and McDonalds.
Here is another video, Roving Reporter from Airmaria, talking to Michael Voris. There should be solidarity and support, not rejection of another Catholic trying to defend the Church in his own little way.
youtube.com/watch?v=G5K-KWwI9mQ
What I’m more surprised about is the suggestion by some that Voris himself is unorthodox in some of his claims. Not that I know differently of him. But it’s just not an observation I’ve made as yet.
I’ve followed RealCatholicTV seen his St. Michael’s Media videos. I’ve heard more unorthodox comments from other apostolates and even other public priests,
Very few times have a I heard MV where he might have been mistaken or injected an opinion on Church Tradition etc. The only video that comes to mind for me, is a nuanced position, on Homosexuals, he took, in talking about the chaste SSA Catholics being victim souls and singling them out too much.
The earlier example in the thread of him not being “orthodox” by that Former Catholic was a deliberate misrepresentation of one of Voris’ talks on the Eucharist.
*TedDC;7970880]His words go well beyond Church teaching on the Real Presence, which make no such claims of specific physiological effects, hence he would seem to be stating an unauthorized belief.
And if what Voris is saying is true, then it logically follows that a blood test on a communicant would reveal the presence of Christ’s DNA. I don’t think the Church would claim that such a result would occur. *
I saw that video. If he really did say it literally in a way that TED implied I would have written off this guy. Before he says DNA he emphasizes consuming the FLESH. So he subtly took Voris’ comments out of context.
By reason, he was speaking figuratively, using DNA to make a point of the reality of the Lord’s Blood/Flesh & our Communion with him. It’s not like Voris thinks he isn’t talking about a Mystery. And by Voris’ actions, faithful defense of the truth, one can only conclude Voris presumed too much in the* point* he was making about the Blood, Body, Soul & Divinity against the idea that it is a mere symbol.
Voris says he’s not a scientist in one of his CIA videos, so with that in mind that Voris was somehow trying to pin down scientific biologically aspects to the Eucharist in great deal, proves the person has an agenda to attack Voris as a nut.
MV doesn’t strike me foolish enough to start to interpret things on his own without seeking authoritative sources — granted he is a former journalist, but that is besides the point!
With my familiarity with his work, he takes lead from orthodox bishops, priests as well as the Teachings and Traditions of the Church. He also is not one to associate with the prideful Catholics that go off the deep end. His Research Videos, show they adhere to the concrete.
but he certainly spawns debate about how to effectively defend the faith, and thus how effective his apostolate actual is.
I don’t know if that’s in our jurisdiction. Ultimately God handles the results. This we know from the Saints. St. Faustina and her Spiritual Director promoting the Divine Mercycomes to mind.
Any results or merit from any of the apostolates are for the Lord to handle. We follow, we do. The Lord will bring about results if we
are actually faithful and true…
This I’ve learned from a Franciscan priest,
’ we do not need to concern ourselves with positive results. Let God worry about that. St. Paul says, God gives the increase, man plants the seeds. Let’s just worry about doing our part as best as we can. ’
now i am puzzled!