Why doesn't Michael Voris appear on EWTN?

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Sorry to come so late to the party after nearly 8 pages of posts. I could have resolved this thread long ago. I take full responsibility. You see I prayed one day, and lo and behold my prayer was answered!
 
Michael Voris says what needs to be said. He always directs you to God, Jesus , The Holy Father, Michael is also quick to point out there are many Holy Cardnials & Bishops, the secular Bishops and Cardnials are one problem we have,I have never heard Michael say anything bad about The Church.
 
Dorothy said:
You have written a perceptive message, in my opinion.

All of us who are striving to serve the Lord are not perfect in every way, and need renewing in the grace of God every day. I am glad that Michael Voris is speaking out for the Church…and I pray that all of his critiques be dipped in the honey of charity! 🙂 …except when necessary!
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I’m with you,

He’s a real “pick-me-upper” in the face of all the moral and religious relativism occuring sometimes in our own catholic faith.

God bless Michael Voris and protect him from Lucifer who I’m sure is hard at work to bring him down.
 
now with working links 🙂
birdpreacher said:
the disturbing thing about voris is that he wants to deny people of their rights and advocates the destruction of democracy in favor of a dictatorship.

Watch the video and reconcile his personal beliefs on eliminating people he considers “parasites” from the political process with anything that the church has ever taught.
talk2action.org/story/2011/4/11/74246/3203

he rebukes bishops for their views which are contrary to his own personal political views.
youtube.com/watch?v=_rbf2smzhls

not surprisingly he believes the easiest way to conduct interfaith dialogue is by openly insulting other faiths. He has done a number on jews, stating they adhere to a manmade religion
youtube.com/watch?v=ay1gg0dyu9y

that islam is built on murder
youtube.com/watch?v=-ymjsoydcfe

with views like these the church is hesitant to give this man any legitimacy
1)the archdiocese of detroit
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“therefore, the catechetical presentations, the analysis of catholic teachings or positions, and the commentary on church leadership presented by st. Michael’s media and/or realcatholictv— be they audio, video, or exclusively web-based— cannot be approved or endorsed by the archdiocese at this time.”
the diocese of scranton:
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In videos posted on the internet, mr. Voris makes comments that certainly can be interpreted as being insensitive to people of other faiths. The catholic church teaches us to respect all people, regardless of their faith tradition.

Although the diocese shares mr. Voris’ support of efforts to protect human life, his extreme positions on other faiths are not appropriate and therefore the diocese cannot host him.
patheos.com/commun…ed-apostolate/
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For some odd reason, the links to youtube have been removed; only the first link is working. With regard to the material Voris presented, it makes a person wonder about his sanity when you hear him say that only faithful Catholics should be allowed to vote. :rolleyes:

As for the second video embedded in the link, I did not see anything wrong with it. He simply showed the difference between Jews of the Covenant, and the Rabbinical Jewish faith that exists today. We need to remember, though, that the Jews are still the beloved elect of God, and they will be called back to Him in fidelity, as St. Paul wrote.

In all honesty, I’m glad the links to the other videos have been removed. The faithful readers on this forum do not need to hear another diatribe spewing his antipathy for the bishops and clergy.
 
Voris’ argument is pretty much Plato’s argument against Democracy. It’s exactly correct if you analyze political systems and include the religious advice and prophecies in the Bible.

His flaw, unfortunately, is “Who decides which Catholic is really faithful”? And the idea of having a benevolent dictator is great until you get a not so benevolent dictator (and you will get one). Then it’s hell on earth. It’s the old Churchill line about democracy being the worst form of government imaginable except for all the alternatives.

Rather than get bogged down in all the imperfect political systems designed to mitigate imperfectly flawed human beings, Voris should just stick to the ideal that true faithfulness to Christ and his teachings must be at the root of a free and just society, whether these principles are codified or not.
 
Nec5 said:
Voris’ argument is pretty much Plato’s argument against Democracy. It’s exactly correct if you analyze political systems and include the religious advice and prophecies in the Bible.

His flaw, unfortunately, is “Who decides which Catholic is really faithful”? And the idea of having a benevolent dictator is great until you get a not so benevolent dictator (and you will get one). Then it’s hell on earth. It’s the old Churchill line about democracy being the worst form of government imaginable except for all the alternatives.

Rather than get bogged down in all the imperfect political systems designed to mitigate imperfectly flawed human beings, Voris should just stick to the ideal that true faithfulness to Christ and his teachings must be at the root of a free and just society, whether these principles are codified or not.
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very well said.
 
Veridical16 said:
'O you STUPID GALATIANS! " Jesus himself has some statements that are ‘harsh/scold’ Though he is God, he can say whatever he wants.
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Or my personal favourite from Acts 13: “Then Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked straight at Elymas and said: ‘You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of the Lord?’”
 
SteveGC said:
very well said.
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I disagree. Voris is often “over the top,” But he is very often “on target,” even if people don’t think he gives due respect to bishops. EWTN has to be careful about how they talk about same. He says bluntly what someone like George Weigel says less vociferous. In this month’s “First Things,” Weigel has an article about the role of the bishops in political matter. I interpret him to say that the clergy should leave the politics to laymen, but NOT to the laymen who work for them. That the competence of the clergy is in laying down moral principles, not in formulating political policies. If a particular policy violates those principles, then the Church should ,speak out against that–strongly. Easily said, of course. part of our problems is who gets to say how the social encyclicals of the popes apply to the politics of a particular country.
Leo XIII was addressing a very different political situation and countries very different from the United States when he wrote. And countries change. This is not the same country where John Ryan made his career.
 
Matt C. Abbott, the author of the piece, claimed in the column that some guy screwed up “a budding relationship” EWTN had with St. Michael’s Media. Michael Voris is President of the latter, as can be learned by watching this video.

Imagine how EWTN would be like today if the aforementioned guy hadn’t messed things up. Mr. Voris might have appeared on The World Over by now.
 
Maxirad said:
Matt C. Abbott, the author of the piece, claimed in the column that some guy screwed up “a budding relationship” EWTN had with St. Michael’s Media…Imagine how EWTN would be like today if the aforementioned guy hadn’t messed things up. Mr. Voris might have appeared on The World Over by now.
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Maybe then we all owe [name redacted] a favor.
 
Do you find it sad that John Corapi is no longer in priestly ministry, pnewton? I do. Check out this video to hear Voris defend Corapi to a certain extent.
 
Maxirad said:
Do you find it sad that John Corapi is no longer in priestly ministry, pnewton? I do. Check out this video to hear Voris defend Corapi to a certain extent.
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I think the sadder part is his order’s (SOLT) findings with regard to his personal life:
A July 5 press release from the Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity (SOLT) said that while Fr. Corapi was involved in public ministry he had “sexual relations and years of cohabitation with a woman known to him, when the relationship began, as a prostitute.”
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The investigative team also found that he “repeatedly abused alcohol and drugs,” “recently engaged in ‘sexting’ activity with one or more women in Montana,” and holds legal title “to over $1 million in real estate, numerous luxury vehicles, motorcycles, an ATV, a boat dock, and several motor boats.”
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If their findings are true, (and I have no reason to doubt they aren’t) I do not fault them for maintaining their order that Fr. Corapi stay out of public ministry.
 
Maxirad said:
Do you find it sad that John Corapi is no longer in priestly ministry, pnewton? I do.
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Yes, but I do not know what that has to do with anything. Sin is insidius and can sneak into anyone’s life.
 
John Corapi’s departure from priestly ministry in June 2011 did not prevent Michael Voris from using some audio clips of a speech Corapi made against the notorious Winnipeg Statement in a video that was posted on YouTube the following month.
 
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