Why don't muslims believe that the Holocaust never happened?

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Muslims do believe Hitler killed thousands or millions jews . I think , Irani President & others try to say that : just because Jews once became victim , it did not give them any right to grab others land , kill thousands inncoent civilians & create another holocaust etc etc.

The world cried a lot for Anna & totally ignored the pain of millions Amena , Fatima , Ahmed & others .

btw , do you believen in The Israeli Holocaust Against the Arab and Muslim People ?

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“The Arabs are Donkeys and Beasts”

“The nation of Israel is pure and the Arabs are a nation of donkeys. They are an evil disaster, an evil devil, and a nasty affliction. The Arabs are donkeys and beasts. They want to take our girls. They are endowed with true filthiness. There is pure and there is impure and they are impure.”

–Rabbi David Batzri, head of the Magen David Yeshiva in Jerusalem [Israeli newspaper Haaretz, March 21, 2006]

“One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.”
Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]

revisionisthistory.org/palestine.html

Israeli and Palestinian Children Killed Since September 29, 2000

123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000.

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PS. some typo error there in thread title??
i think that many people are dying for some bad reasons but the word holocaust does not apply here. I think its too bad the two sides can decide on a plan but i side with Israel. yea, i know im really bad a grammar.
 
Because they believe that the reason for the Holocaust myth was to establish Israel state in the middle-east and occupy the Palestinian lands.
This sort of thinking is totally misguided, since the idea that the Holocaust is a myth is demonstrably false. Why would anyone seek to perpetrate a lie? That’s the real question. And the answer lies in the unbridled hatred of those that believe the lie.

The State of Israel was established by the United Nations. It was not a power grab or a land grab. It was not established to promulgate or validate some myth nor was it established to occupy the lands of any group.

Indeed, the factual record shows that the so-called “Palestinian Lands” were not truly “occupied” (even in the sense of being a dwelling place, not a military occupation) by anyone for any continuous period of time until after the establishment of the State of Israel. After Israel made it into something worthwhile, then the area became important. Only then did the so-called “Palestinians” decided they wanted to take back the area where others had worked to make prosperous.

Perhaps the myth is actually the “Palestinian” myth, since “Palestinians” did not exist as a group until after the myth and the term became politically useful?

Those states bordering Israel told everyone at the time of the creation of Israel to leave, to make way for the planned destruction. Many people complied. Multiple countries attacked the newly (and legally formed, under International law) State of Israel.

Those attacking countries, who, by the way, acted against the rest of the civilized world, LOST. They didn’t just lose the conflict, they lost the right to return for those who they had told to flee. They screwed up big time. THEY DID IT. They made promises that they didn’t keep. But did they help those who they misled? NO. They have seen fit to leave those who trusted in them in desperate poverty ever since. And of course they have also blamed everyone but themselves for the situation they created. The hypocrisy is stunning.

There’s another side to the story. Those of you in the area need to stop blaming others and start taking responsibility for the problems caused by the intemperate promises made to the so-called “Palestinians” 60 years ago. Taking responsibility for what you’ve done is the first step. Since you’ve had 60 years to do so, and so far have failed, it would probably not be wise of the rest of us to expect anything constructive now, but we can hope. It would be nice if you would start working to clean up the mess you made instead of blaming others for it.
 
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S… do you think that the muslims can ever forgive the Israelite for those bad things they did?
those who lost home , land , kids & still are suffering under Zionists , they have to decide should they forgive the opressors or not . To be forgiven by God , one needs to repent first . So far , there is no sign of repentance from the zionists side.
 
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those who lost home , land , kids & still are suffering under Zionists , they have to decide should they forgive the opressors or not . To be forgiven by God , one needs to repent first . So far , there is no sign of repentance from the zionists side.
Agreed. We need to repent before forgiven. Anyway, shouldn’t it be the business between the zionists and God?
 
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Agreed. We need to repent before forgiven. Anyway, shouldn’t it be the business between the zionists and God?
nuh. if u grab someone’s land / home etc & just say , Oh God , i am sorry …in Islam it is not considered as repentance. U must return back the owners what u illegally have .
 
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nuh. if u grab someone’s land / home etc & just say , Oh God , i am sorry …in Islam it is not considered as repentance. U must return back the owners what u illegally have .
How can the land of the Israelite be illegal according to you? I mean sure, i empathize with the Palestinian and the way they are being treated, but shouldn’t the Palestinian also throw down their arms and start negotiating the peaceful way?

How about the Kashmir situation? Why are the Pakistanis not giving back the land to India?
 
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nuh. if u grab someone’s land / home etc & just say , Oh God , i am sorry …in Islam it is not considered as repentance. U must return back the owners what u illegally have .
I am not saying that just saying “Sorry” is considered as a repentance. What I say that to repent from sin is between human and God. BTW, I still agree that to repent is not as simple as saying “Sorry” and do nothing afterward.
 
Sam_777;4376046:
Because they believe that the reason for the Holocaust myth was to establish Israel state in the middle-east and occupy the Palestinian lands.
Perhaps the myth is actually the “Palestinian” myth, since “Palestinians” did not exist as a group until after the myth and the term became politically useful?
I agree, its a propaganda by the Palestinian Muslims as usual.
There’s another side to the story. Those of you in the area need to stop blaming others and start taking responsibility for the problems caused by the intemperate promises made to the so-called “Palestinians” 60 years ago. Taking responsibility for what you’ve done is the first step. Since you’ve had 60 years to do so, and so far have failed, it would probably not be wise of the rest of us to expect anything constructive now, but we can hope. It would be nice if you would start working to clean up the mess you made instead of blaming others for it.
I think if God The Most High decided to give that land to the Jews, then its theirs no matter what happens, the problem that Muslims don’t believe in the Bible, therefore any promise in the Bible regarding that promised land is invalid in the eyes of my fellow Muslims.
However, after knowing Lord Jesus, I really don’t care much about any earthy land or country, because I want to be in Jesus’ Kingdom which is not of this earthy world.
 
Sorry Sister,

I cut your posting short just for quotation. You are correct in this case. Murder is wrong whoever does that. Since you believe that Allah is forgivefull, do you think that the muslims can ever forgive the Israelite for those bad things they did?
I’m not Palestinian and I am not Jewish - have friends of both Nationalities and I would have to say it would be very difficult for any group of people to forgive for the crimes committed against them while the offending group is still consistantly doing them. Repentence and Forgiveness is needed even if it is difficult.

It is a shame that the Jews once liberated for a horrific persecution immediately turned around and began a horrific persecution of another group. I do not believe that God is on anyone’s side who does something so awful…isn’t there somewhere in the Gospel a story about a man whose huge debt was forgiven him by a king and then that same man after his debt was forgiven throw someone in jail for a much smaller debt owed to him? Then the king found out about it and then had him and his family put to death. I think that it is a similar situation that the Jews were given their freedom after being saved from persecution, but then they (not all, but the Nation of Israel) turned around and did the same thing to another people. If they repent God will have mercy on them because our God is a loving and merciful God.

Let’s pray for peace and an end to the Palestinian Holocaust which continues to this day and for all other Holocausts that are occuring around the world whether or not we know about them.
 
Salaam/peace

Muslims do believe Hitler killed thousands or millions jews . I think , Irani President & others try to say that : just because Jews once became victim , it did not give them any right to grab others land , kill thousands inncoent civilians & create another holocaust etc etc.

The world cried a lot for Anna & totally ignored the pain of millions Amena , Fatima , Ahmed & others .

btw , do you believen in The Israeli Holocaust Against the Arab and Muslim People ?

http://www.islamonline.net/English/In_Depth/GazaHolocaustMuseum/topic_01/images/21-00.jpg

http://www.islamonline.net/English/In_Depth/GazaHolocaustMuseum/images/parent/top_03.gif
http://www.islamonline.net/English/In_Depth/GazaHolocaustMuseum/images/parent/top_08.gif

http://www.islamonline.net/English/.../GazaHolocaustMuseum/images/parent/top_09.gif
islamonline.net/English/In_Depth/GazaHolocaustMuseum/index.shtml

“The Arabs are Donkeys and Beasts”

“The nation of Israel is pure and the Arabs are a nation of donkeys. They are an evil disaster, an evil devil, and a nasty affliction. The Arabs are donkeys and beasts. They want to take our girls. They are endowed with true filthiness. There is pure and there is impure and they are impure.”

–Rabbi David Batzri, head of the Magen David Yeshiva in Jerusalem [Israeli newspaper Haaretz, March 21, 2006]

“One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.”
Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]

revisionisthistory.org/palestine.html

Israeli and Palestinian Children Killed Since September 29, 2000

123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000.

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/children.gif

ifamericansknew.org/

PS. some typo error there in thread title??
Yes, I do believe and think it is awful. I pray for peace to come into the hearts of the Jews in Israel towards their brothers the Palestinians.

It is clear in some of the footage I’ve seen captured on You Tube of the some of the Settlers towards the Palestinians and volunteer workers who have visited Palestine - it is clear that Satan is very active among them. Several of them seemed completely possessed by demons in their manner of speech and actions.

What they need more than anything is a huge countrywide Exercisim! Is any priest willing to risk being tortured in jail for the rest of his natural life to go there and perform the needed exercisims?
 
Its hard to “feel sorry” for muslims when you watch the 27 minute movie on this site… obsessionthemovie.com/ or this one: thethirdjihad.com/

You “reap” what you sow…

You would think by now…that muslims and arabs would be aware of the fact that historically…they have lost every war they have ever engaged in against anyone other than themselves. Seems by now they might collectively “wise-up” and stop listening to so called “holy men” who exhort them to go out and die.

I wonder why the “mullahs” aren’t leading by example?
 
Salaam/peace

Arabs and Israel - Conflict or Conciliation - late Ahmeed Deedat

~SLAUGHTERING PALESTINIANS AT A RATIO OF “8 to 1” AND THEN CLAIMING YOU ARE THE VICTIM` OF TERRORISM AND ANTI~SEMITISM IS SIMPLY LAUGHABLE BY ANY RATIONAL, LOGIC, RELIGION, OR CREED!

NO EXCUSES ARE CREDIBLE FOR THESE LEVELS OF TERRORISM. NOT EVEN THE JEWISH HOLY TORAH ALLOWS KILL~ING BEYOND AN EYE FOR AN EYE!

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I’m not Palestinian and I am not Jewish - have friends of both Nationalities and I would have to say it would be very difficult for any group of people to forgive for the crimes committed against them while the offending group is still consistantly doing them. Repentence and Forgiveness is needed even if it is difficult.

It is a shame that the Jews once liberated for a horrific persecution immediately turned around and began a horrific persecution of another group. I do not believe that God is on anyone’s side who does something so awful…isn’t there somewhere in the Gospel a story about a man whose huge debt was forgiven him by a king and then that same man after his debt was forgiven throw someone in jail for a much smaller debt owed to him? Then the king found out about it and then had him and his family put to death. I think that it is a similar situation that the Jews were given their freedom after being saved from persecution, but then they (not all, but the Nation of Israel) turned around and did the same thing to another people. If they repent God will have mercy on them because our God is a loving and merciful God.

Let’s pray for peace and an end to the Palestinian Holocaust which continues to this day and for all other Holocausts that are occuring around the world whether or not we know about them.
Dear StMarina,

Indeed it is difficult for human being to forgive. Indeed it is true that God can’t be in any side of the warring parties. Both party believe in God in each respective religion. Do they believe that God is Love? If they do, then why not let God come in. Keep the prayer such as “O God, I will let YOU leading me in YOUR way” rather than “O God, they killed my brother yesterday, so give me strength to kill them today”.
 
Salaam/peace

Arabs and Israel - Conflict or Conciliation - late Ahmeed Deedat

~SLAUGHTERING PALESTINIANS AT A RATIO OF “8 to 1” AND THEN CLAIMING YOU ARE THE VICTIM` OF TERRORISM AND ANTI~SEMITISM IS SIMPLY LAUGHABLE BY ANY RATIONAL, LOGIC, RELIGION, OR CREED!

NO EXCUSES ARE CREDIBLE FOR THESE LEVELS OF TERRORISM. NOT EVEN THE JEWISH HOLY TORAH ALLOWS KILL~ING BEYOND AN EYE FOR AN EYE!

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8 to one? Come on. That would mean that if there are a million Israliis, there are 8 million palestinians killed each year…if we start back in 1948, that would be 480 million dead.

I was born at night, but not last night baby. That would mean that in 60 years, Isreal has killed HALF of the Muslim population of the world.

You have now insulted my intellegence.

UNLESS you are talking about that ratio of children killed. It is not 8 to one either, but I guess math cannot be taught to Muslim Women.

How about this, let the Muslim nations ADMIT that they do not want the Palestinians on their lands, that they are a drain on their economies, and stop arming them to fight Isreal. Then, both sides come to the table WITH TRUE INTENT on peace. Sign a treaty that has real consequences if you break it and see who breaks it first…
 
interesting how this got into the war but i dont think the war is a holocaust. first off all the death ratio is BS. Obviously its going to be like that because Jews fight harder.
 
Salaam/peace

some more info:

If Americans Knew

Political Prisoners and Detainees



1 Israeli is being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 10,756 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel.

Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian Homes



0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians and 18,147 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967

Illegal Settlements on the Other’s Land

Israel currently has 223 Jewish-only settlements and ‘outposts’ built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land.



ifamericansknew.org/
 
Gosh, I just feel terrible for both sides. I have to admit I can’t (thankfully) imagine what it must be like to live in this area with this much fear and tension. Honestly, my heart goes out to everyone there.

“UNLESS you are talking about that ratio of children killed. It is not 8 to one either, but I guess math cannot be taught to Muslim Women.”

Wow, was that uncalled for! Muslim Woman I really appreciate your participation as well as those who defend Israel. Until we start treating each other with respect, no one wins.

Everyone has a story and I don’t care what side you come down on, as a mother who has lost a child (not through that kind of horror though), I feel the grief of every mother who must endure that loss. And trust me, I don’t care who you are, what religion you are or what ethnicity you are, there is no greater pain than that.

Peace has to start with me and how I treat others.

Sorry for my rant, but for some reason I have always had a very sad feeling about what these two areas are going through. I only wish for a peaceful resolution to this.

God Bless you all.
 
Salaam/peace

some more info:

If Americans Knew

Political Prisoners and Detainees

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/prisoners.gif

1 Israeli is being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 10,756 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel.

Illegal Settlements on the Other’s Land

Israel currently has 223 Jewish-only settlements and ‘outposts’ built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/homes.gif

Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian Homes

0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians and 18,147 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967.

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/settlemnts.gif

ifamericansknew.org/
Statistics can be interpreted a variety of ways. While some may interpret the above as evidence of the persecution of “Palestinians” by Israelis, the same data can also lead to the conclusion that more criminal acts are perpetrated by “Palestinians” against their Israeli neighbors. One conclusion reflects badly on the Israelis, the other reflects badly on the “Palestinians”. The data itself provides no conclusive evidence of either interpretation.
 
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…Child Abuse at Israeli Borders & Airports

Strip-Searching Children



Israeli officials have been regularly strip-searching children for decades, some of them American citizens.

… If Americans Knew was astonished to learn that Israeli officials have also been strip-searching girls as young as seven and below.

According to interviews with women in the United States, Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, Israeli border officials periodically force Christian and Muslim females of all ages to remove their clothing and submit to searches. In some cases the children are then “felt” by Israeli officials.

Sometimes mothers and children are strip-searched together, at other times little girls are taken from their parents and strip-searched alone. Women are required to remove sanitary napkins, sometimes with small daughters at their side. Sometimes women are strip searched in the presence of their young sons.

All report deep feelings of humiliation. Many describe weeping at the degradation they felt.

“I remember crying and pleading with my mother,” Gaza journalist Laila El-Haddad recalls of an experience when she was 12-years-old, hoping that her mother could convince the Israeli official to allow her to keep her undershirt on. But parents are unable to shield their children, El-Haddad and others report.

“They had machine guns,” El-Haddad explains. “We just had to submit.” El-Haddad, who holds a Masters degree in Public Policy from Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, believes that the intention of the strip searches is to humiliate Palestinians so that they won’t return to Palestine.

Oregon attorney Hala Gores remembers being strip-searched at the age of 10. Her family, Palestinian Christians from Nazareth, were leaving Israel because of Israeli discrimination against Christians. Gores has never returned to her family’s ancestral home in Nazareth, she says, in part because she does not want to repeat the experience of having no control over what is done to her.

The Israeli policy appears to target only Christian and Muslim children, and is equally applied to those with Israeli citizenship and citizenship in other countries, including native-born Americans. There are no reports of Jewish children being strip-searched.

New Jersey stand-up comedian Maysoon Zayid describes being strip-searched at Ben Gurion Airport when she was “seven, eight, nine years old” on family trips to visit her parents’ original home in Palestine. On her most recent trip in July 2006, Maysoon, an American citizen, had her sanitary pad taken by officials in Ben Gurion Airport. When the search was completed, she says, the Israeli official in charge, Inbal Sharon, then refused to return her pad or allow her to get another.

Zayid, who has cerebral palsy and was sitting in a wheelchair, was then forced to bleed publicly for hours while she waited for her flight.

ifamericansknew.org/cur_sit/childabuse.html
 
Maybe if some people didn’t strap bombs onto their children the children would not be searched. Looking at just one side of the issue solves nothing. If one is looking to cast blame, there are plenty of places to find it. I submit a more productive way of solving the problem is to stop bombing people. 🤷
 
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