Why don't muslims believe that the Holocaust never happened?

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

… I guess math cannot be taught to Muslim Women…

Pl. try to teach the Zionists about math/ statistics etc. If Torah teaches ’ eye for an eye or tooth for a tooth ’ then ratio should be 1:1.

 

[ralphinal]

What we cannot lose site of is that Isreal is fighting for its very existance. These people do call the place home. Palestinian terrorists DO kill civilians there every year. Palestinian militants DO fire rockets into cities. It is not like the people if Isreal are bloodthursty killers, looking for innocents to kill.

I have yet to see any proof that the Jewish people in the area would not be treated worse if the Palestinians were put in charge.

What Muslim Woman is not telling you is that the reason that these strip searches are done is because the terrorists have been recruiting/using women and children to smuggle weapons or as bombers. THey do not do this without cause. IN orthodox Judaism, a man CANNOT be in the presence of a naked woman that is not his wife. THat is the same as in Islam.

Muslim Woman has a history on this site of half-truths, deceptions, changing topics of the thread (as she has done here), and more forms of trickery to keep people from discussing the failures of Islam.

Why don’t we get back to the topic of the thread?

Why do so many Muslims DENY THE HOLOCAUST?

 

[MelanieAnne]

Salaam/peace

Pl. try to teach the Zionists about math/ statistics etc. If Torah teaches ’ eye for an eye or tooth for a tooth ’ then ratio should be 1:1.

This misses the point. If Israelis retaliate, and their retaliation is more effective, one way to stop them from retaliating is to stop the suicide bombings. This is really easy to figure out. It’s too bad that it appears that no one wants to try it.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

Maybe if some people didn’t strap bombs onto their children the children would not be searched. :

ok , keep on strip searching children & women but it should be done by women soldiers .

 

[ralphinal]

Salaam/peace

Pl. try to teach the Zionists about math/ statistics etc. If Torah teaches ’ eye for an eye or tooth for a tooth ’ then ratio should be 1:1.

And you totally missed my statement.

If the number was 8 to 1, there would be NO PALESTINIANS LEFT.

 

[MelanieAnne]

Salaam/peace

ok , keep on strip searching children & women but it should be done by women soldiers .

OK, so it is OK to strap bombs on children so they can be used as human bombs to kill themselves and others? Anyone who espouses that sort of philosophy has no credibility when it comes to morality. Those who practice hatred and murder cannot credibly preach to others about it.

 

[Sister_Amy]

Holocaust denial is a rather silly ploy. I don’t know why anyone takes it seriously.

Of course the Holocaust happened, there’s no reason to believe otherwise–Muslim or not.

And since the topic has strayed, it’s true that Palestinians are suffering overwhelmingly, the victims of a horrible injustice.

But that doesn’t make the Holocaust any less true.

 

[ralphinal]

Muslim Woman,
Do you accept the fact that Hitler committed a great crime against humanity when he lead the German people to kill millions of Jews?

DO you think that it was evil to try to wipe a people from existance?

Do you think that it is evil to say that it never occured for political gain?

Yes or no on each, please.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

Why do so many Muslims DENY THE HOLOCAUST?

Muslims don’t deny it. Now pl tell me , why most Jews & Christians DENY the Holocaust by the Zionists ? How more Palestine kids & civilians should die to make it a holocaust ( recognised by you) ?

The Israeli Holocaust Against the Palestinians



April 18, 2002: A Palestinian searches for a relative among the bodies of 35 Palestinians killed by the Israelis in Nablus

Irish nurse in clash with Israeli soldiers: A nurse from west Cork (Ireland) has told how she and a group of volunteers had warning shots and a grenade fired at them by Israeli soldiers as they tried to reach a refugee camp in Nablus.

Palestinian members of the groups were beaten by the soldiers, she added. Mary Kelly, 24 other international volunteers and six Palestinian medical staff were allowed to pass through an Israeli checkpoint but were then stopped by tanks. "Two Israeli tanks approached us and fired warning shots. We stopped and formed a circle around the Palestinians.

The Israeli soldiers threw a percussion grenade and the situation began to get ugly. They pushed us to the ground and beat and kicked the men. I was knocked down," Ms Kelly said. “Our aim was to visit Balata camp where the food and water situation is very bad. The unconfirmed toll there is 25 injured and 17 dead,” she added.

Having just visited the Rafidia Hospital in Nablus, she added that there were “79 bodies in the hospital, some of them in the dairy truck because the morgue is full.” Source: Irish Times. April 18, 2002.

revisionisthistory.org/palestine52.html

 

[ralphinal]

Salaam/peace

Muslims don’t deny it. Now pl tell me , why most Jews & Christians DENY the Holocaust by the Zionists ? How more Palestine kids & civilians should die to make it a holocaust ( recognised by you) ?

The Israeli Holocaust Against the Palestinians

http://www.revisionisthistory.org/images/part_of_35_corpses _41802.JPG

April 18, 2002: A Palestinian searches for a relative among the bodies of 35 Palestinians killed by the Israelis in Nablus

Irish nurse in clash with Israeli soldiers: A nurse from west Cork (Ireland) has told how she and a group of volunteers had warning shots and a grenade fired at them by Israeli soldiers as they tried to reach a refugee camp in Nablus.

Palestinian members of the groups were beaten by the soldiers, she added. Mary Kelly, 24 other international volunteers and six Palestinian medical staff were allowed to pass through an Israeli checkpoint but were then stopped by tanks. "Two Israeli tanks approached us and fired warning shots. We stopped and formed a circle around the Palestinians.

The Israeli soldiers threw a percussion grenade and the situation began to get ugly. They pushed us to the ground and beat and kicked the men. I was knocked down," Ms Kelly said. “Our aim was to visit Balata camp where the food and water situation is very bad. The unconfirmed toll there is 25 injured and 17 dead,” she added.

Having just visited the Rafidia Hospital in Nablus, she added that there were “79 bodies in the hospital, some of them in the dairy truck because the morgue is full.” Source: Irish Times. April 18, 2002.

revisionisthistory.org/palestine52.html

Most of us see it as defending themselves against terrorists. It is hard to sell it to the US when the Palestinians danced in the streets when the Towers fell and Isreal was our friend when we needed one.

Now, please answer these about your own, person thoughts.

Muslim Woman,
Do you accept the fact that Hitler committed a great crime against humanity when he lead the German people to kill millions of Jews?

DO you think that it was evil to try to wipe a people from existance?

Do you think that it is evil to say that it never occured for political gain?

Yes or no on each, please.

 

[ralphinal]

Holocaust denial is a rather silly ploy. I don’t know why anyone takes it seriously.

Of course the Holocaust happened, there’s no reason to believe otherwise–Muslim or not.

And since the topic has strayed, it’s true that Palestinians are suffering overwhelmingly, the victims of a horrible injustice.

But that doesn’t make the Holocaust any less true.

EXACTLY!

Yet again, you are the voice of reason from the Muslim posters.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

Why don’t muslims believe that the Holocaust ever happened?

Does Iran’s President Want Israel Wiped Off The Map - Does He Deny The Holocaust?

An analysis of media rhetoric on its way to war against Iran - Commenting on the alleged statements of Iran’s President Ahmadinejad .

By Anneliese Fikentscher and Andreas Neumann
Translation to English: Erik Appleby

The Iranian press agency IRNA renders Ahmadinejad on 2005-12-14 as follows:

"'If the Europeans are telling the truth in their claim that they have killed six million Jews in the Holocaust during the World War II - which seems they are right in their claim because they insist on it and arrest and imprison those who oppose it, why the Palestinian nation should pay for the crime.

Why have they come to the very heart of the Islamic world and are committing crimes against the dear Palestine using their bombs, rockets, missiles and sanctions.’ …]

‘If you have committed the crimes so give a piece of your land somewhere in Europe or America and Canada or Alaska to them to set up their own state there.’ …] Ahmadinejad said some have created a myth on holocaust and hold it even higher than the very belief in religion and prophets …]

full report here.

informationclearinghouse.info/article12790.htm

 

[MelanieAnne]

When the “Palestinians” begin to love their children more than they hate their enemies perhaps the killing will finally stop.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

…Isreal was our friend when we needed one.

Remember the USS Liberty



On June 8, 1967, 34 American servicemen were killed and 174 were wounded during an Israeli attack on the USS Liberty.

According to former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Thomas Moorer, “Those men were then betrayed and left to die by our own government.” The survivors are still awaiting justice.

ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/ussliberty.html

Now, please answer these about your own, person thoughts.

yes to all . Regarding Quran , Killing of any inncoent people is as if the killed killed the whole mankind.

 

[MelanieAnne]

yes to all . Regarding Quran , Killing of any inncoent people is as if the killed killed the whole mankind.

So every “Palestinian” that has bombed and killed others is just as guilty of killing all of mankind. So there is no difference.

 

[ralphinal]

Muslim Woman yet again pulls from a biased source

Isreal paid reporations and monies to the US and to families of those involved. It may have been an accedent.

Besides, I can produce many, many more intentional attacks by the enemies of Isreal on US troops.

None of this has SQUAT to do with the Holocaust.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

So every “Palestinian” that has bombed and killed others is just as guilty of killing all of mankind.

yes , killing of unarmed civilians , kids , women are forbidden in Islam . Even in the war field , Muslims must not kill kids , women , old people.

So there is no difference.

If any single Jewish kid is murdered , the whole world cry for him/her & s/he is always brutally murdered by Muslim terrorists.

When hundreds & thousands Muslims kids die , they are only the victims of cross fire or accidently killed by innocent Israeli soldiers. Many times media don’t even report about killing of many Palestine kids when somtimes they report about murdered jewish kids more than once .

 

[MelanieAnne]

I don’t view the Quran as “scripture”. However, setting that aside, if we accept as true the concept that “killing of any innocent people is as if they killed killed the whole mankind” then both the so-called “Palestinians” and the Israelis are EQUALLY responsible, regardless of any numbers cited. Why? because you can only kill “the whole mankind” once.

The terrorists need to stop killing.

 

[MelanieAnne]

When hundreds & thousands Muslims kids die , they are only the victims of cross fire or accidently killed by innocent Israeli soldiers. Many times media don’t even report about killing of many Palestine kids when somtimes they report about murdered jewish kids more than once .

What does it say about a person who deliberately places a child in the line of fire? Does that person not also bear some responsibility for the fate of that child? What sort of monster would deliberately put a child in danger?

The terrorists need to stop killing. Period. What kind of kids or people are killed is not really relevant. The problem is the killing. Stop killing.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

Accuracy in Reporting of Israel/Palestine



…The networks’ coverage of children’s deaths was even more skewed. In the first year of the current uprising, ABC, CBS, and NBC reported Israeli children’s deaths at 13.8, 6.4, and 12.4 times the rate of Palestinian children’s deaths.

In 2004 these large differentials were also present, although they decreased in two cases, with deaths of Israeli children covered at rates 9.0, 12.8, and 9.9 times greater than the deaths of Palestinian children by ABC, CBS, and NBC, respectively.

Given that in 2004 22 times more Palestinian children were killed than Israeli children, this category holds particular importance. We could find no basis on which to justify this inequality in coverage.

ifamericansknew.org/media/net-report.html