"Why Grocery Stores Are Avoiding Black Neighborhoods"

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To answer the original question, the issue is IMHO not one of race but money: Businesses tend to open where the population has money. If you were a supermarket, would you open in an area of low income? Or high? Businesses are going to go where the population has money to spend.
 
Businesses are going to go where the population has money to spend.
Many will but not all. Some businesses will target lower income areas for investment precisely because of untapped market potential. Of course a host of factors will play a part in whether they remain there.
 
I thought people disliked Walmart because it caused local businesses to close.
 
You might want to watch the video, if you haven’t already. The explanation is really complex. The crime rate-vs.-food access debate is a chicken-and-egg one.
I don’t see any chicken/egg question to it. The crime rate either drives out such existing stores, or prevents new ones from being established. If they raise their prices to cover theft, smart shoppers get on the bus. Such stores can’t survive in that environment.
 
It’s just interesting that ten years ago, progressive elites were demanding the closure of Walmart branches; in this video, they’re complaining about them. 🤔
I don’t think Trump is doing any such thing.The Dems,allowing the vile riots and looting to continue are the ones instilling fear in the populace.
 
Trump is capitalizing on the fear and telling “suburban housewives” that they are not safe because low-income housing is going to take over their neighborhood. This is not even a dog whistle; it is a fire alarm.

It’s the same tactic Nixon used in 1968: that is, I’m the law-and-order candidate while Humphrey is the bleeding-heart liberal and socialist who doesn’t know how to nor care to quell the violence in Chicago outside the Democratic convention. It’s almost exactly the same playbook. The American people fell for it then and they are likely to fall for it now. That plus the ongoing Vietnam War which Nixon promised to end soon, but which he wound up escalating into Cambodia and Laos, got him elected and the rest is history.

The only difference between Nixon and Trump on this issue is that Nixon was NOT POTUS but LBJ was when the violence occurred, whereas the violence is taking place during Trump’s watch.
 
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You cannot have it both ways.The gov.of Wisconsin doesn’t want Trump to visit.Yet the Dems demonizes Trump as shirking his duties.In the end these protests and riots are the responsibility of the Dems governing these states.
Re Biden’s manifesto he as much as said he planned to change suburban neighborhoods.
 
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Could you point me to the Biden manifesto and where it says he plans to change suburban neighborhoods? How exactly does he expect to do that?

I disagree with the governors and mayors who say Trump should not visit. He should, and he and the mayors and governors should talk and figure out the best way to handle the immediate situation as well as ensure it does not occur again. I’m not one who believes there is no common ground, no matter how oppositional the beliefs. No one wants violence, especially in their own community.
 
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Are you sure you were intending to reply to me? I haven’t mentioned Trump at all in this thread and was talking about something completely different.
 
Yes, that is one of many cited reasons.

I’ve still seen some hypocrisy to it, however. My own mom was bemoaning Walmart’s negative effect on local business. Not 20 minutes later, she suggested going to Barnes and Noble. I think you can guess how I replied to her . . .
I don’t see any chicken/egg question to it. The crime rate either drives out such existing stores, or prevents new ones from being established. If they raise their prices to cover theft, smart shoppers get on the bus. Such stores can’t survive in that environment.
Poverty can engender crime. If people can’t earn enough making an honest living, a dishonest one unfortunately becomes more tempting. Plenty of non-poor people also make unethical choices to get rich, but crime combined with poverty results in entrepreneurs avoiding opening their businesses in poor and crime-ridden areas.
 
Not 20 minutes later, she suggested going to Barnes and Noble. I think you can guess how I replied to her .
I personally like Barnes and Noble. At least you get to see the books you buy, and many others in a related area. You can also sit down and read a bit, unlike Amazon. Yes, Amazon does have online previews, but it is not the same as browsing in a bookstore. I understand that there is not too much profit in selling books, except possibly for textbooks which have outrageous prices. In any case, the smaller book dealers have a difficult time making ends meet and I have seen people walk out the door with a book without paying for it. How are small businesses going to survive if people are robbing. looting and ransacking their business? And in some cases, people are burning them down after smashing their front windows. I saw more than one video of such, even though the news says that this is a peaceful expression.
 
Thank you. I didn’t read the whole article, but I think Republicans should love the housing-choice voucher program since they love school vouchers so much. What about it, Reps? You want poor kids and their families to choose their schools; how about their homes in your neighborhood as well?
 
I was gonna say — don’t go disrespecting Dollar Tree 😱
 
One of the big problems in our city is that many of our neighborhoods grew up around factories that employed someone from almost every family in the neighborhood (lots of them were able to walk to work, which decreased the need for two cars, and meant that people didn’t have to rely on buses to get to work).

Lots of smaller businesses including coffee shops, restaurants, grocery stores and “drug stores” (pharmacy plus beauty products plus household products plus toys, etc.) grew up in the neighborhoods, too–little “business districts” that provided a great place for the neighbors to gather and be friends.

Schools were established in these neighborhoods, and churches, and many people in the neighborhoods attended these schools and churches.

Little friendly bars and nightclubs became the place for factory employees who lived in the neighborhood to get together and hear good (local) music, dance, and enjoy an evening with friends.

And parks–our city has an award-winning Park District which has been around for over a hundred years, and every neighborhood has its own park. Years ago when I was a child, during the winter, the Park District would freeze over the ball diamonds in these parks so people could ice skate, play hockey, etc.–this helped to develop the sport of figure skating in our city, and we had several National, World, and Olympic competitors and champions grow up here. (There were also a couple of indoor rinks.)

EVEN though the CEOs of many of these factories did not actually live in the neighborhood (they lived in big mansions in the “rich section” of the city!), most of them got involved with wholesome activities in the neighborhood that helped the neighborhood to thrive. Often they would provide summer “work” for teenagers, or they would build sports fields at the parks and schools, or build a swimming pool/center in the neighborhood. People LOVED these CEOs and welcomed them to their neighborhood block parties, Christmas parades, summer picnics, church festivals, restaurant openings, etc. Often these CEOs would stop for coffee every morning in one of the little restaurants and this gave them a chance to talk to their factory workers.

AND…these factories were in neighborhoods that included people of all colors and nationalities–if you wanted to work in that factory, you moved into that neighborhood.

It’s all gone now. The factories closed down during the Reagan years and many moved to states where the labor unions didn’t have as much power. The parks are still there, but they are dangerous and run-down (Park District keeps getting de-funded because our property taxes go to pay for Illinois pensions.) Almost all of the restaurants and coffee shops are gone and even the McDonalds are closed down (mainly due to shootings). We have huge big chain grocery stores far away from these neighborhoods–I only know of 2 “mom and pop” stores in our city. Most of them closed after a beloved owner or employee was shot to death in his/her own store. I suspect that the two still open are owned and operated by drug-selling gang members.

The shootings have turned our neighborhoods into twilight zones.
 
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This will not be a popular response, but, truth is often unpleasant.
Where I grew up, the few stores in certain areas were robbed “enough” (whatever that means) that they had to close. They intended to help the communities they started in, just barely making enough profit to continue business. The robberies, by people in those areas caused the stores to close. They killed off their own help. Two of those buildings were still empty when I left. (The third was burned to the ground by vandals) It is not surprising to me that others don’t want to have the same failure.
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Surely robbery is something you can get grips on, for example using store security, or going back to an old fashioned mom & pop style of selling things over the counter.

I wonder how many of the stores who complain about theft have replaced cashiers by automatic checkouts and such.

If you depersonalize your business, I think it lowers people’s respect and they are more liklely to steal if they can get away with it. You wouldn’t steal from the shop where your aunt works as cashier because that would be like stealing from your aunt.
 
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I Respectfully disagree: your post is very close to blaming the victim. You basically say “stores get stolen from because they’re depersonalized,” and make excuses for the thieves (you don’t steal from the store where your aunt works? Maybe your aunt hates the place because she’s jealous or a lousy employee). If you were correct no rioters would burn down stores in their own neighborhoods yet that is clearly happening circa 2020.
 
Sounds so much like friends of mine, when I was younger. The whole devout Catholic family—grandparents, their kids, their kids’ kids—living in this place that was going downhill faster and faster. But they said they loved their homes, their church (which they pretty much supported on their own shoulders), and their neighbors. So they stayed on.

Finally, one of the kids hit it big in business. You would probably recognize the name. He spread the wealth around generously so the rest of his family could all afford to leave for better pastures. About this time, the family homes were getting graffiti’ed, to the effect of “white people should get out.” So they finally did. The whole slew of them up and left. I don’t think it was even a year later that the church closed its doors. The takers were still there, but the givers had left. Of course, the closing of the church in a black neighborhood was called “racism.”
 
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