Why I am Drifting from Catholicism to Islam

[Glaucon]

I suggest you go read Milestones by Sayyid Qutb (who, by the way, was a Muslim leader, but I suppose catharina’s too blissfully ignorant to even touch THAT)… Now THAT was penned long before the Cold War ended.

It’s here, if you want to read it.

We don’t need to single out boogiemen… They’ve just been that way from the very start. Ever thought of that?

Dhimmi.

 

[R_not]

It was a good article, Kung is Swiss, but other than that good.

Do you understand the difference between thoughtful criticism like that and you, R_Not, Dolphin, etc?

Do you understand that the ones who need to reach out are the muslims themselves and stop the violence against infidels worldwide?

Until that violence ends, until their continual fatwas, jihads, and basic bullying stops - nothing will change.

I wonder why you are so worried about finding out the truth about islam and care nothing at all that bombs are being lobbed into Israel daily, or that the slaughter in Darfur goes on, or that the Taliban is trying to gain ground in Afghanistan - no muslim outrage from the muslims you know but just more of the same junk from you and them. Worrying about people like me who know what islam is all about.

islam is stuck in the 7th century because in so many countries, once they have a muslim majority and get their sharia laws in place - schooling of their young means hours and hours of memorizing the koran with little else. No math, no science, no art, no music - in fact art and music are banned in many of these countries once they get sharia law enforced. And in many of these countries, not all, but many - girls are not allowed to go to school. And many find themselves married off at the age of 9 and above.

Do you know what serious discussion is? I just seriously discussed a problem in islam. I even posted Fjordman’s articles on a different thread about the scientific achievements (or lack thereof) in muslim societies - three parts - that you said you read in about an hour. Which would be impossible.

you can make all the jokes you want about me - call me whatever name you want. And then you tell me I have the problem.

 

[R_not]

As for a replacement to the communists - I think that knowing someone in the Red Army has got you all excited - the communists are still there and they still don’t like us very much. No one is replaced.

islam has been around for 1400 years - well before communism. But, fascism - or the concept of ‘either you are with us or you are against us’ - has been around a lot longer. And both of these are of that mentality.

There has been warnings for quite some time about islam from some notables. Thomas Jefferson warned us - when he cracked open a koran and figured out that the Barbary pirates were muslims on a jihad - he then dealt with them accordingly. Churchill warned us.

He figured islam out when he was 24.
amnation.com/vfr/archives/004826

*How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.

The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.

– Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50 [London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899]).*

 

[ChristopherL]

Apparently, she’s never heard of the plight of Palestinian Christians and Egyptian Copts, not to mention Chaldean Catholics in Iraq (it’s a shame she identifies herself as “Catholic”).

Clearly, she’s a flake.

The Copts in Egypt live in whats basically a garbage compounds and the Christians in Iraq, now have it worse then ever.

That is what happens when you create an Islamic state.

 

[R_not]

I suggest you go read Milestones by Sayyid Qutb (who, by the way, was a Muslim leader, but I suppose catharina’s too blissfully ignorant to even touch THAT)… Now THAT was penned long before the Cold War ended.

It’s here, if you want to read it.

We don’t need to single out boogiemen… They’ve just been that way from the very start. Ever thought of that?

Dhimmi.

He was one of Al Husseini’s followers - they were the ones who started the radicalization that has led to what we have now in islam - wahabbism, the muslim brotherhood, hamas, hezbollah, al Qaeda.

thanks for the website. this should be interesting.

 

[Glaucon]

More on Thomas Jefferson and the Barbary Pirates:

One, and

Two (from the Library of Congress).

 

[Michael_Francis]

Due to the declining charity level , this thread is now closed.
MF