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I obviously don’t think that your arguements in the first post demonstrated that there isn’t a higher being responsible for mankind’s overall moral compass.#2 Furthermore, even if your argument that because we have a moral compass it must come from a higher being is valid (and it most certainly is not, as my arguments above have demonstrated),
Okay. But all these beings are a type of God, aren’t they?argument does not prove that the “higher being” is God. It could have been Athena or the Titans or Vishnu or Krishna.
Then my arguement would be that God gave the time traveler his overall moral compass. I would also say that the existence of a view of right and wrong probably means that the ET has a soul.It could be an extraterrestrial life form traveling between the stars, or time travelers from the future, or beings from another dimension.
Again you have only demonstrated that your opinion is that there is not a higher power.All your argument demonstrates if is true (and it most certainly is not, as I have demonstrated above)
Okay, but it would be a higher power. Correct? So you are open to a higher power, maybe a space alien, having something to do with human morality but not the Christian concept of God.s that there is some intelligence higher than a human being that designed human morality - not specifically the Christian God. It could be anything from aliens to Zeus, and every mythical being in between.
Well, I haven’t always been 'good." I did some pretty selfish things in my younger years.It is clear that part of your argument includes the idea that if there is no God, then why be moral? Well, you certainly aren’t arguing that you are good because God will punish you if you are not good, right? Is the reason you’re kind to others because you’re afraid God will throw you into the eternal lake of fire forever and ever? Is the reason you don’t go on a murderous rampage because you know that if you do, you might not get to celebrate a billion birthdays with Jesus? No, of course not. You, personally, would be good no matter if you believed in God, reincarnation, Zenu (the intergalatic overlord), or even if you believed in no God or gods. So, I don’t really think you’re arguing that.
No, I don’t think that a person who believes in Zenu
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No, the Greeks thought that there was no rational reason behind a lightening bolt. I think that God uses the physical laws in his work. So, it wouldn’t surprise me if geneticist find a gene for ‘the moral compass’.In reality, of course, all you’ve merely offered is that there must be no other explanation for the development of human morality *other *than divine intervention. But that’s really is no more sophisticated than those ancient Greeks when they looked at lightning and incorrectly assumed it must have been divine anger. The development of human morality is a very active topic among evolutionary psychologists, evolutionary biology, archeologists and anthropologists, with thousands of published works investigating how it evolved naturally (e.g., without super-natural intervention).
I think that God used evolution to bring about life on earth, so saying to negate God’s existence with the fact that his work can be explained by scientists isn’t really going to have much bearing with me personally. It might upset some fundamentalists though.