Except no one wants to hear your opinions on what will send them to hell. Because that is all it is, an opinion. How would you feel if someone came up to you and said “you know, I think you are going to hell for going to Catholic Church…I don’t hate you, I just hate the sin of you going to Catholic Church. I am worried for your soul.” How would you view that person?
You mean not all “cosmologists” are “atheists?” Roman Catholics can be cosmologists and astrophysicists and exobiologists etc. too? Next you’ll be telling us that the Big Bang theory was developed by a Catholic!if you are inerested in those aspects of the Catholic faith i recommend Fr Spitzer and those at the magis institute
there are quite a few others besides these people but in my opinion they do the best job of explaining those aspects of authorative chrch teaching and discipline and how they relate to modern cosmology.
- ignatius.com/Products/NPEG-P/new-proofs-for-the-existence-of-god.aspx
- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Spitzer_(priest)#Writing_and_publications
- magisreasonfaith.org/encyclopedias.html
Shalom
God Bless you on your journey
I don’t randomly go up to people and tell them how they should do things. If someone brings it up in a conversation or asks my opinion I state the Truth as I know it. I also have no qualms placing Church teaching into public discourse where it can be presented along with all the other philosophies out there. To do anything less would be to ignore the golden rule. And yes I would want others to do the same. This criticism is somewhat of a joke coming from you considering you have had no qualms in giving your opinions all over these forums.
Many homosexuals reject the Church because they are unwilling to give up their “lifestyle”. In other words, they value their sexual gratification more highly then love of God!
:dyou mean not all “cosmologists” are “atheists?” roman catholics can be cosmologists and astrophysicists and exobiologists etc. Too? Next you’ll be telling us that the big bang theory was developed by a catholic!
Exactly! And the OP even put it correctly- homosexuals turn away from the Church, not the other way around!
Maybe some of them do this but I have a feeling a lot of them just reject that God would disapprove of their love. They just believe that the Church is wrong on the issue and that God either does not exist, or does not hate homosexuality.
God could never disapprove of friendship. The disapproval, as enunciated in Scripture and as evident in the order of creation, is the sexualizing of a relationship which belongs to a category of a non-sexual friendship.
God does not “hate.” God is not capable of “hate” in the way we understand that word. It is simply that activity of any kind (murder, calumny, etc.) which is incompatible with God keeps the person outside of full relationship with God. God never stops loving us as individuals, as His love is pure and centered on us, not Him. When we choose to behave in such a manner which keeps us outside of intimacy with God, we are the ones rejecting or “hating,” not Him.
that God would disapprove of their love.
This has happened to me many times. (I used to live in Kansas City where it happened on almost a weekly basis.) I generally took the attitude of “I disagree with your conclusion but I appreciate your concern.” In the instances where the person was someone I actually knew, I would explain why I believed what I did. Recently, most of the people who’ve said things like this to me have been people I with whom I was well-aquainted and who I knew had a legitimate (albeit misguided) concern for my soul. So, no, I never thought they hated me and I never viewed them as a horrible person.
Not only homosexuals. This statement describes an overwhelming percentage of our society in general. It has gotten to the extent that alarming numbers of seemily normal people put sexual gratification ahead of their faith, their morals, their own personal safety, their emotional well being, their reputation, their other relationships, the well-being of their children, and their own self-worth.
Good post.
You know what, I do think a lot of Christians and Catholics hate gays. I don’t know how many times I have read that gays pushing for marriage are selfish and are going to be the cause of the downfall of society. If you think someone is causing the downfall of society, isn’t it only logical to hate them?
Here’s the thing. As Catholics and Christians, we have to strive to imitate Christ in every aspect of our lives. That means we show Christ’s love to all of His children and all of our neighbors (who, are everyone on this earth.) Having a same-sex attraction doesn’t cancel out the fact that the person is still a child of God of whom we are called to show God’s love to.
As I said, the church will not officially change its stance on gay marriage BUT it won’t be talked about like it is today. In 25 years the pope will not say anything about gay marriage publicly because it will be so accepted in society, like divorce and remarriage, that it would alienate so many followers by preaching about it. Technically gay marriage is the same sin as divorce and remarriage (fornication outside of marriage)…and you could even argue that divorce and remarriage is worse because it is also adultery. But you don’t hear priests calling people that are divorced and remarried adulterers, do you?
I agree, gay marriage is the hot topic right now, just like divorce was years ago. Women were told by their Priests and fellow Catholics that they had to stay with physically abusive husbands rather than consider the sinful act of divorce. Divorce was going to destroy society and the institution of marriage. Priests DID preach about divorced people staying abstinent or they were committing adultery. Divorced people were shunned by the good married Catholics in the parish and community. I had a friend in grammar school whose parents divorced and it was horrible how the family was treated.
This behavior will start to be reflected in studies. One was done at UT-Austin, and another broader study was done at the U of Minnesota-TC.