Why I Can't Be Catholic

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I’m back…

I am 16, if anyone was really wondering…Just a stupid man dreading Christ’s Coming.
Why would you dread Christ’s coming? I knew that fear back before I became Catholic. It is so sad to fear our sweet Jesus.

As Catholics, we pray “come quickly, Lord Jesus!” When we say the Creed at every Mass, we speak of His return in glory!

Please, get to Confession, stay close to Jesus in the Sacraments, you will then be able to look forward to meeting Jesus.
 
Faith is not a matter of feelings and emotions. True faith is a matter of the Will and the Intellect give to us by God.
 
The third commandment is to “remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.” The Sabbath has always been Saturday.

I dread His Coming and my death because I’m likely going to hell.
 
As a nonCatholic Christian, I personally feel so much freedom. I feel happy, full of God, and peaceful. I feel safe and secure in Jesus Christ. Confident and prepared for His coming.

But as a Catholic, I feel scared. I feel agony, fear, anxiety, worry, etc. I feel like I’m dishonoring God by talking to other heavenly creatures.

Is it not right to go with my conscience? Or would it be better for me to live a life in constant fear?
fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. you may come from a protestant background, as do i to a degree, the marian mysteries are the hardest to understand in some ways, but at the end of Job, G-d commanded that Jobs friends ask Job to pray for them as they had spoken unjustly about Him, He said it was because Job was righteous, so if G-d commands it who are we to fear, to abdicate based on some heretical sects idea of the Communion of Saints? indeed not.
 
The third commandment is to “remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.” The Sabbath has always been Saturday.

I dread His Coming and my death because I’m likely going to hell.
The Jewish Sabbath has always been Saturday.

Christians have always considered Sunday, the Lord’s Day, the Day of Christ’s ressurection as the Sabbath.
 
I understand where TristanCross is coming from. I’m on that same walk myself. I can’t speak for him, and I certainly don’t mean to overtake his thread with my own ramblings, but I know that the thread to this point has been helpful to me, and if he is still reading along perhaps this would not be a diversion but likewise helpful?

In the Protestant church there is joy and peace and assurance. If you accept Christ as Savior and Lord, you are taught you will spend eternity in heaven, and furthermore - you can be confident now, today, and every moment up to and including your death, that when you die Jesus will be there waiting for you, as He has promised. You are supposed to try hard not to sin, and to serve God and fellow man, but it is expected that you will fall short, because that is the nature of man, to be a sinner, and each and every time Christ will forgive if He is Your Lord and His Father will forgive in His name. No amount nor number nor timing of sins could take from you your inheritance in Christ if He is your Lord.

In the Catholic Church, there is a list of mortal sins which I thought would include things that are easy to avoid - like murder, prostitution, thievery. But the list is long and deep and includes “thought sins” that are harder to control - I admit mean, petty, selfish, off-color and impatient thoughts pop into my head (seemingly unbidden) all the time. On a daily basis, for sure. And yet if I die without the opportunity for fresh Reconciliation - such as in a car crash, sudden heart attack, or other event without warning - even if my last Confession was just an hour before my death, nothing will save me from eternity in hell. Suddenly I’m afraid of laughing at even a slightly dirty joke forwarded in email and wondering whether being Catholic means having to email all my friends and ask them not to send anything not entirely pure lest I commit a mortal sin and not make it to Confession before my death. The Catholic Church may not demand actual perfection, being that it ‘allows’ venial sins, but I fear what it does require is more than I can achieve.

I long for the Truth; I also long for assurance of being saved from hellfire. And right now I don’t know how to tell what “feeling” in me is the Spirit drawing me to Christ and what is my own self-serving and erroneous sin.
I was a protestant once and I had no joy. As a protestant, I fell short into moral sin all the time. There is no joy or peace in that. Becoming a Catholic one is truly free. For he learns to have self control and to live in grace. If you do fall, our Lord welcomes you back in Confession and He strengthens you with His divine Flesh.
 
In the Protestant church there is joy and peace and assurance. If you accept Christ as Savior and Lord, you are taught you will spend eternity in heaven, and furthermore - you can be confident now, today, and every moment up to and including your death, that when you die Jesus will be there waiting for you, as He has promised.
Nobody has mentioned this, and maybe I shouldn’t either, but fools rush in…

The problem with the “salvation guarantee” is not primarily that it can lead people into sins they would otherwise have avoided. The main problem is if it isn’t true.

Say a person holds the “once saved, always saved” view, and feels sure that they have been saved. This causes him to ease up on the little sins. Lots of people would. I would (and in fact did) myself. The problem is that the little sins really do lead to bigger sins. That is the Devil’s cleverness. And each sin is a larger or smaller turning away from God. You could find, in a number of years, that you had pretty much done a 180 and were steadily walking away from God. The little sins have gotten bigger and bigger, and now you’ve stopped praying and God isn’t a factor in your life at all.

The biggest problem with this scenario is that if you are wrong about “once saved, always saved” you are pretty much on the road to the Inferno at this point. You had no objective behavioral standards (in the form of rules, not suggestions) to tell you when you had started crossing the line, and no spur ro bring you back across it.

This is really one of the surprising joys of returning to the Church. It is actually very liberating not to have to waste your time making personal moral decisions about every little thing. It is easier to go to Mass every week then to fight with myself about whether it really matters if I go or not. It gives me more energy to try to be charitable toward the other drivers on the road, for example. And a couple of things I didn’t think were very sinful, but when I gave them up (because the Church said I had to) I realized the extent that they had been damaging my soul.
You are supposed to try hard not to sin,
What does it mean to “try hard not to sin?” How hard? How do you know when you are trying hard enough? I’m not trying to be funny–this was one of the issues I had. It’s too vague to be useful to me, anyway, although maybe it helps others. I kept veering between not feeling guilty because I hadn’t been to church in three weeks and feeling guilty for going to the grocery store on Sunday.
but it is expected that you will fall short, because that is the nature of man, to be a sinner, and each and every time Christ will forgive if He is Your Lord and His Father will forgive in His name.
This is also true in the Catholic Church. You only have to repent and ask (via Confession).
No amount nor number nor timing of sins could take from you your inheritance in Christ if He is your Lord.
How is Christ one’s Lord, if one is spending all one’s time sinning? Again, I’m not trying to be flippant, but there has to be an amount of unrepented sin that really makes a difference in the end. “If ye love me, keep my commandments…”
In the Catholic Church, there is a list of mortal sins which I thought would include things that are easy to avoid - like murder, prostitution, thievery. But the list is long and deep and includes “thought sins” that are harder to control - I admit mean, petty, selfish, off-color and impatient thoughts pop into my head (seemingly unbidden) all the time. On a daily basis, for sure. And yet if I die without the opportunity for fresh Reconciliation - such as in a car crash, sudden heart attack, or other event without warning - even if my last Confession was just an hour before my death, nothing will save me from eternity in hell. Suddenly I’m afraid of laughing at even a slightly dirty joke forwarded in email and wondering whether being Catholic means having to email all my friends and ask them not to send anything not entirely pure lest I commit a mortal sin and not make it to Confession before my death. The Catholic Church may not demand actual perfection, being that it ‘allows’ venial sins, but I fear what it does require is more than I can achieve.
Let me make this perfectly clear, although I think it was mentioned before. ** It is not possible to commit a mortal sin by accident.** Never, under any circumstances can you do it. Do NOT worry about this. I actually had one priest give me a little lecture in confession about how my forgetting to go to Mass on a Holy Day of Obligation was not a mortal sin, because it wasn’t on purpose. (In fact I knew it, but I didn’t mind hearing it again. :D)

As another poster pointed out, things that pop into your head unbidden are NOT sins. They are temptations. They only become sins if you willfully hold onto them instead of pushing them away. And I don’t see how laughing at a slightly dirty joke can be a mortal sin in any circumstances.

And about the question of getting hit by a car or something before you can make it to confession, maybe this will be a bit comforting:
Cathecism:
When it arises from a love by which God is loved above all else, contrition is called “perfect” (contrition of charity). Such contrition remits venial sins; it also obtains forgiveness of mortal sins if it includes the firm resolution to have recourse to sacramental confession as soon as possible.
God is not trying to send you to Hell. The Catholic Church is not trying to send you to Hell. Trust God. Also I can tell you from personal experience that knowing one will have to confess something helps you not to do it. 😉

–Jen
 
God is also in other Christian denominations. If you feel more at peace there, then go. God is where peace and love preside. Be prepared however, He may have a job for you to do one day, like return to the Catholic Faith or explain the Catholic faith to others. For now you need to go, or else you will live with regret. I was became an Episcopalian for many years but I returned to the Faith of my Fathers. I missed it. Maybe you need to miss it.
 
The third commandment is to “remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.” The Sabbath has always been Saturday.

I dread His Coming and my death because I’m likely going to hell.
“[T]hose who were brought up in the ancient order of things * have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord’s day, on which also our life has sprung up again by him and by his death” (Letter to the Magnesians 8 [A.D. 110]). - Ignatius of Antioch

You see that even very early on it was the custom of Christians to gather and worship on Sunday. The Sabbath is of the Old Covenant, and no longer binding to us. The Lord’s day (Sunday) has taken it’s place.*
 
“[T]hose who were brought up in the ancient order of things * have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord?s day, on which also our life has sprung up again by him and by his death” (Letter to the Magnesians 8 [A.D. 110]). - Ignatius of Antioch

You see that even very early on it was the custom of Christians to gather and worship on Sunday. The Sabbath is of the Old Covenant, and no longer binding to us. The Lord’s day (Sunday) has taken it’s place.*

I know. Stop taking me for an idiot. He misquoted it, and I corrected him.
 
If one is afraid of Truth, Don’t read the Bible. If your church teaches doctrines that contradict Scriptures, your church does not have Truth, but false teachings.
 
If one is afraid of Truth, Don’t read the Bible. If your church teaches doctrines that contradict Scriptures, your church does not have Truth, but false teachings.
Well said. This is also why I love being Catholic. I don’t have to worry aobut someone twisting Scripture and teaching a falsehood.

Peace
James
 
Tristan,
You are young…keep studying…we will be praying for you. Remember…ALL protestant churches hail from the one True Church…the Catholic Church…all are branches off of it. Go back to the very beginning of Church History and study…our traditions do not save us… you are correct but Jesus saves us and those traditions have great meaning and were handed down to us from the Church who is over 2000 years old. Something made you come to the Church and I believe the Holy Spirit is drawing you to the Catholic Church so listen to it. Check out this website and watch some videos…
www.catholicscomehome.org.
God bless
 
Well, I was once drawn to futurism and Nostradamus, and the Holy Spirit in no way led me there. 😛
 
The conversation may’ve moved on rendering this mute, but I neglected to respond to this earlier:
I note in this above you omit a reference to the severity of sin that you raise below.
In the Protestant denominations in which I was ‘catechized’ (if that word can be properly applied) there was no hierarchy of sin. Sin was sin was sin so there was no point in considering the ‘severity’.
 
Tristan: This may or may not bring you any comfort, but this was one of JPII’s favorite songs, and also mine. When I am feeling confused, lost, etc. it helps me, so I thought I would share it with you. The name of the song is “Be Not Afraid”, but it’s scripturally based, although I cannot for the life of me, give you the notation…😦

You shall cross the barren desert, but you shall not die of thirst. You
shall wander far in safety though you do not know the way. You shall speak
your words in foreign lands and all will understand. You shall see the face
of God and live.

Be not afraid. I go before you always. Come follow me, and I will give
you rest.

If you pass through raging waters in the sea, you shall not drown. If
you walk amid the burning flames, you shall not be harmed. If you stand
before the pow’r of hell and death is at your side, know that I am with you
through it all.

Be not afraid. I go before you always. Come follow me, and I will give you rest.
  1. Blessed are your poor, for the kingdom shall be theirs. Blest are you
    that weep and mourn, for one day you shall laugh. And if wicked men insult
    and hate you all because of me, blessed, blessed are you!
Tristan, I don’t know any catholics who haven’t questioned the church at one time or another. I spent quite a few years away from the Church and felt lost and isolated. When I came back I felt joy and peace. Best Wishes in your search for the truth.
 
. . . Also,Catholics believe Muslims and Jews and anybody can go to Heaven, despite Christ saying that if you do not believe on Him, you have no life in you . . .
Not true. You may have seen (especially on this particular forum) a phrase: Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus, often abbreviated “EENS,” which means "outside the Church there is no salvation. What you are are saying is actually a heresy called “Indifferentism.” Granted, the precise boundaries of EENS are subject to much debate - Fr. Leonard Feeney was excommunicated at one point for taking it too far to the extreme, while the Church has always condemned Indifferentism, and Church leaders have, at various points, made statements everywhere in between, so it can be quite confusing (there are quite a few threads on here about EENS if you wanted to take the time to search for them…). Of course, there are “exceptions” for the “innocently ignorant,” baptism by desire, etc., but the Church has never accepted outright Indifferentism as a belief.
 
The peace that Christ alone gives which surpasses all understanding is given to those who believe that Christ died for him/her and He paid our sin debt in full. The Bible tells us: If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. This one time blood atonement was complete and man can do nothing to add to it. The gift of eternal life is given by God to all who will accept the complete blood sacrifice of the Son. If one must work to try to earn it, or to try to prove “worthy”, then it isn’t a gift. There are other Christian sects that claim there’s no salvation outside their church, which is also what the catholic church believes. But Jesus never said salvation is found in a church nor in church works, but in a relationship with Him. Its all about what Jesus did for us. In the Bible we read of men asking what must I do to be saved? What was always the response?
 
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