Why is abortion harmful?

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Formon said:
And please stop accusing me of justifying something that I find abhorrent.
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Then quit arguing that it wasn’t something that it clearly was.
Formon said:
So if I understand your position, the northerners were racists?
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I really didn’t say anything about Northerners, or Southerners for that matter, but I suspect that pretty much everyone alive then, with very few exceptions, would be considered racist by current standards, even if they didn’t think that slavery based on race was just fine and dandy.
 
You can make that argument but the 3/5 compromise wasn’t. And that’s what we were talking about.
 
Slavery and race were inherently tied when it comes to slavery in that period. To talk about slavery would have been to talk about race, and so the 3/5 compromise was about race.
 
Formon said:
You can make that argument but the 3/5 compromise wasn’t. And that’s what we were talking about.
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It most certainly was. As it has been repeatedly mentioned, slavery and race were very closely tied together.
 
The right to life is that one fundamental foundational right upon which every other human right hangs. In abortion a woman’s right to sovereignty over her own body is pitted against another human being’s right to life, and consequently, their rights to every other human right. It’s so far from being morally equivalent that it should be unthinkable to every one of us, that a temporary deprivation of one right, morally outweighs deliberately depriving another human being of a lifetime of every conceivable human right.

Same thing with choices. Somehow, the freedom to be able to make one single choice in a temporary situation, supposedly justifies denying someone else a lifetime of millions of choices.
 
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Fauken said:
It most certainly was. As it has been repeatedly mentioned, slavery and race were very closely tied together.
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Show me where in the Constitution black people are only counted as 3/5’s and I’ll believe you.
 
Formon said:
but the 3/5 compromise wasn’t
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If the 3/5 compromise was about slavery and slavery was about race, then why the argument about something that is glaringly obvious? “Black” and “Slave” were as close to synonymous during the debates over the Constitution as pretty much any 2 words could be, rare exceptions notwithstanding.
 
Formon said:
Show me where in the Constitution black people are only counted as 3/5’s and I’ll believe you.
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The Three-Fifths Compromise was not a Constitutional amendment, and no one has claimed otherwise.
 
Formon said:
For the simple reason that it did not apply to free blacks.
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Whose numbers were so inconsequential that it didn’t matter. Again, the reason it was done was because the North was afraid of the very large slave population in the South. The vast majority of slaves were black, and the vast majority of blacks were slaves. You are repeatedly ignoring why the Three-Fifths Compromise was made to begin with.
 
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Again, rare exception. Very rare at that time. Especially in the South, which the compromise was for in the first place. Why is this so difficult?
 
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