That is such a beautiful church. It is a shame that it is closing. I noticed the pictures of the First Communion from last year. Were there really only 4 children who received First Communion? It must be a small parish with that few second graders.For anyone interested, here is the link to the website of Holy Trinity (German) Church in Boston.
holytrinitygerman.org/
If you scroll down a little after going to this link:holytrinitygerman.org/monatsbote/2007/Monatsbote-January-2007.htm
There is some news about the closing. There is more if you click on the most recent issue of the Monatsbote.
I thought it had been establish that repressed memory was basically bunk.IWhat I found interesting is the first payout in L.A. was to a former Nun who is a lesbian that heads a school for children of homosexual parents. This former Nun also stated she discovered that she had been abused after 40 years when she attended a sensitivity class that taught regressive memory.
Made me think is there a scandal within the scandal.
So what? Why would you think they’re untruthful just because they’re pro-SSPX?The Remnant is squarely in bed with the Lefebvre camp. Although not affiliated on paper with the SSPX, they are both of the same mind in all matters, along with Catholic Family News and Fr. Gruner’s Fatima Crusader. So I would take whatever they say with a grain of salt.
The Remnant is squarely in bed with the Lefebvre camp. Although not affiliated on paper with the SSPX, they are both of the same mind in all matters, along with Catholic Family News and Fr. Gruner’s Fatima Crusader. So I would take whatever they say with a grain of salt.
It would be very easy to verify whether or not the article is true just by checking the real estate transactions. How much the properties sold for and records of reselling (“flipping”) would be public record.So what? Why would you think they’re untruthful just because they’re pro-SSPX?
They are highly questionable.So what? Why would you think they’re untruthful just because they’re pro-SSPX?
Divide and conquer…Boston Archdiocese to close Holy Trinity and move Indult
03/25/2007 | Christine Quagan
Posted on 03/25/2007 11:20:24 PM EDT by Pandora the Great
BOSTON – March 25 – The Archdiocese of Boston announced today that, beginning Sunday, April 22, that the traditional Latin Mass will move from Holy Trinity Parish in Boston’s South End to Mary Immaculate of Lourdes Parish in Newton Upper Falls. Parishioners plan to appeal the move.
Father Mark O’Connell made the announcement this afternoon in a meeting with parishioners. This meeting was a follow up to a meeting on November 26 at which he first announced a plan to merge Holy Trinity with the nearby Cathedral of the Holy Cross after first moving the Latin Mass to Newton. Despite the move of the Latin Mass, “no closing date has been set” for the merger of the rest of the parish with the Cathedral, according to Father O’Connell. In addition, he announced that Cardinal Seán O’Malley would like Holy Trinity’s German parishioners to “find a home at the Cathedral.”
What a shame…Unfortunately under the pastorate of Fr. Michael F. Doocey (1970-1993), following the Second Vatican Council and ensuing iconoclasm, the interior of MIL was generally wreckovated. The once beautiful sanctuary and nave has been generally white washed.
My complaint? We (the Latin Mass community) will need to reverse and absorb the cost of the destruction wrought over the last 35 years to even approximate the Liturgical archtectonics of the sanctuary and nave that remain extant at Holy Trinity (HT). At a very minimum we need a temporary altar rail in the devastated Sanctuary of MIL. I am very concerned by the existing sight lines and blind spots encumbered by the permanent (immovable) placement of the existing freestanding altar, particularly with the large Liturgical entourage typical of High and Solemn High Masses. It is Fr. Higgins intention to use the old High Altar. He has taken the first step in restoring placement of the Tabernacle in the old High Altar. Unfortunately, he is currently disinclined to move the freestanding Altar since the parish will remain bi-ritual. I suggest he either work on the design of a movable but dignified freestanding Altar or celebrate all Masses here on in ad orientum. At this point, true restoration of just the church sanctuary for a dignified celebration of the Classical Roman Rite could cost several hundred thousand dollars. This does not even begin to address the balance of deferred maintenance throughout the balance of physical plant that includes significant deterioration to roofing, stone and brick masonry, exterior woodwork and ornamental ironwork. The existing pipe organ, inoperative for years with water damage and cracked bellows could easily cost tens of thousands of dollars to restore.
It sounds like MIL is the parish that needs to be closed just due to the deterioration of the building and cost of repairs. Holy Trinity is not in disrepair.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1806725/posts
Divide and conquer…
A response from one of the parishioners of Holy Trinity (excerpted)…
What a shame…
onenewsnow.com/2007/03/former_catholic_churches_being.phpIt would be very easy to verify whether or not the article is true just by checking the real estate transactions. How much the properties sold for and records of reselling (“flipping”) would be public record.
Who is to say parishers spend all this money on restoration and the diocease turns around and sells it.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1806725/posts
Divide and conquer…
A response from one of the parishioners of Holy Trinity (excerpted)…
What a shame…
And then they wonder what reservations the SSPX has with reconciliation with Rome.Who is to say parishers spend all this money on restoration and the diocease turns around and sells it.
As if their reservations mattered. They need to simply admit their error and come back into the communion of Holy Mother Church.And then they wonder what reservations the SSPX has with reconciliation with Rome.
Exactly, that’s their concerns (or at least one of them). It doesn’t sound like they’ve been dealt with in a forthright manner by the Cardinal and his people.Who is to say parishers spend all this money on restoration and the diocease turns around and sells it.
The Archdiocese of Boston is certainly seeking a fair market value on property but other factors are considered as well such as the use of the property. I don’t think any Catholic would like to see a former church turned into a place of irreverence (or worse).No, it’s not really about the real estate market, but at least they should be getting fair market value. Besides, if they do get fair market value for some of the properties, they won’t need to close as many churches and schools to get the money they need to pay the lawsuits.
My heart is full of sorrows for you & Holy Trinity.kangnamdragon oh yes we can support ourselves if our pastor can syphon money from us for more than 10 years to pay for St. James than we can and have supported 2 parishes.
Not to menstion Holy Trinity is one of the few untouched churches in the Boston area and we have most important lots of parking.
While Mary Immaculate of Lourdes is very nice its altar doesn’t hold a candle to Holy Trintiy’s. Plus they have a huge fixed marble table altar. It need major renovations before we can move there, none of which has been done.
Yes, but how did the Church get the property in the first place if not by donations? So either I pay for the lawsuits or my grandparents did.The archdiocese has made it perfectly clear that they are not closing any churches to pay for the lawsuits. That’s right, zero. The lawsuits have been paid for by selling property at the chancery and the archbishop’s residence.
There are plenty of good Catholics in Boston, most notibly our dear Cardinal Sean. I actually converted to Catholicism in college in Boston, so it’s where Catholicism was born in my life.And that’s why it’s a catholic Graveyard. It is the place where catholicism dies & is buried in America.
I think it was noble of the Cardinal O’Malley to sell the archbishop’s residence and live more humbly at the cathedral. It was the archbishop’s residence, it belongs to the archdiocese and I believe any donations that may have paid for it were freely given. If it is a gift then, he is allowed to sell it.Yes, but how did the Church get the property in the first place if not by donations? So either I pay for the lawsuits or my grandparents did.
I think you see my point. Some priests have been known to take on “second jobs” for survival.Do you mean to say that the archdiocese should find a way to go out and make money that was not given to them by parishioners and use that money to pay for the settlements? How would that work exactly?