Of course. It was not meant to be exclusionary to all catholics. After all, some became True Isrealites/Jews or converted to Judaism while in Babylon.There are plenty of good Catholics in Boston, most notibly our dear Cardinal Sean. I actually converted to Catholicism in college in Boston, so it’s where Catholicism was born in my life.
Good point. There is no practical way for the diocese to pay for settlements other than church property if a settlement exceeds bond insurance.…
Do you mean to say that the archdiocese should find a way to go out and make money that was not given to them by parishioners and use that money to pay for the settlements? How would that work exactly?
If you believe they aren’t selling off Churches because of their misdeeds and lawsuits I can’t help you. Never mind stealing from their own elderly priests by raiding the pension fund.The Archdiocese of Boston is certainly seeking a fair market value on property but other factors are considered as well such as the use of the property. I don’t think any Catholic would like to see a former church turned into a place of irreverence (or worse).
The archdiocese has made it perfectly clear that they are not closing any churches to pay for the lawsuits. That’s right, zero. The lawsuits have been paid for by selling property at the chancery and the archbishop’s residence.
The archdiocese closed churches because there aren’t enough parishioners and there isn’t enough money to keep all of them open. The schools are closing on their own, one-by-one because the enrollment is down everywhere. Reconfiguration or the closing of churches was an effort to prevent that very thing from happening to churches. The archdiocese wanted to look at the churches regionally and keep open enough parishes for all the Catholics in that area. If the archdiocese had just let the churches close on their own because they cannot support themselves, all the inner city churches would close first. Reconfiguration was an effort at balance and at building stronger parishes that would have more resources.
A woman at my parish that use to belong to Cardinal O’Malley’s diocease told me about this Church and what has taken place there. I was stunned. She had nothing good to say about him either. And some blogs also I come across. I think he is more interested in his blog than trying to help the diocease and he certainly can’t be Irish, because what I read of his story of St. Patrick, he doesn’t know Irish history and their were no O’Malley Clans back then, maybe pirates though as he claim. I also think Cardinal Mahoney stole an irish name too unless he came from the Travelers…If you believe they aren’t selling off Churches because of their misdeeds and lawsuits I can’t help you. Never mind stealing from their own elderly priests by raiding the pension fund.
As I said before we can support ourselves if they can syphon money for years to another Church.
I have nothing good to say about Cardianl O’Malley. He is most untruethfull. He has refused to set foot in Holy Trinity and we are less than 2 blocks from the Cathedral with more parishoners.
No renovations have been made to MIoL nor do they plan to move the table altar making it unweildy to celebrate the TLM. Not to mention we are moving from a Church in the city with major parking and public transportation to a Church with no public transportation. Oh Fr. O’Connell told us they can get off at the Elliot Station over a mile away. Who cares that they are elderly. Very pastoral of him.
Who are these priests? Are they priests in the Archdiocese of Boston? Priestly compensation has not changed here. In fact, they just raised priest’s salaries.I think you see my point. Some priests have been known to take on “second jobs” for survival.
I have never been to a Mass in this archdiocese that was not good and holy. The fact that fewer Catholics are going to Mass or people of all faiths to religious services in general is a nation-wide problem. I think the effects of it in the Catholic Church are most evident in areas like Boston where there were once a high concentration of Catholics who attended Mass regularly. The same could be said of Europe. Sure people should be encouraged to come to Mass, and I think they have been. They still have free will.Instead of closing churches, Boston needs to find a way to get more people to Mass ( have a good, holy Mass) and more children into the schools (no political correctness with academic achievement and discipline).
Boston University. They have an awesome campus ministry team there.Of course. It was not meant to be exclusionary to all catholics. After all, some became True Isrealites/Jews or converted to Judaism while in Babylon.
But as a whole, Judaism was dying in Babylon…true catholicism is dying in Boston.
BTW:
What college in Boston? Just curious.
I know that the archdiocese is settling with its insurance companies. Unfortunately, they did not want to pay the archdiocese.Good point. There is no practical way for the diocese to pay for settlements other than church property if a settlement exceeds bond insurance.
The NEW DOGMA is:
Always raise thy bond when thou art promoting homosexual clergy.
Until then, the horse already left the barn in Boston.
Of course cd. Law (what an abuse of the namesake) could be in Attica instead of Vatica. That would at least help the perception of justice in the Church of Boston.
The lawsuits have been paid for. Have you read the archdiocese’s financial transparency report? The lawsuits will be completely paid for by insurance and the sale of archdiocesan properties. The money from closed parishes is going into a fund that will be used for any expenses existing churches have. It’s all outlined in the report.If you believe they aren’t selling off Churches because of their misdeeds and lawsuits I can’t help you. Never mind stealing from their own elderly priests by raiding the pension fund.
As I said before we can support ourselves if they can syphon money for years to another Church.
I have nothing good to say about Cardianl O’Malley. He is most untruethfull. He has refused to set foot in Holy Trinity and we are less than 2 blocks from the Cathedral with more parishoners.
No renovations have been made to MIoL nor do they plan to move the table altar making it unweildy to celebrate the TLM. Not to mention we are moving from a Church in the city with major parking and public transportation to a Church with no public transportation. Oh Fr. O’Connell told us they can get off at the Elliot Station over a mile away. Who cares that they are elderly. Very pastoral of him.
I have heard many people upset about the situation at Holy Trinity as well. They are certainly hurting because, like anyone, they do not want their parish to close. They have built a community, and they do not want to see it change. I can understand that.A woman at my parish that use to belong to Cardinal O’Malley’s diocease told me about this Church and what has taken place there. I was stunned. She had nothing good to say about him either. And some blogs also I come across. I think he is more interested in his blog than trying to help the diocease and he certainly can’t be Irish, because what I read of his story of St. Patrick, he doesn’t know Irish history and their were no O’Malley Clans back then, maybe pirates though as he claim. I also think Cardinal Mahoney stole an irish name too unless he came from the Travelers…
ElizabethAnne, you are young, probably single with no family. The families fighting for the only TLM in the large archdiocese of Boston need a solid parish in which to raise their children so that their children will hopefully keep their faith.I have heard many people upset about the situation at Holy Trinity as well. They are certainly hurting because, like anyone, they do not want their parish to close. They have built a community, and they do not want to see it change. I can understand that.
I am young but I am not single, and my husband and I hope to start a family soon. I understand the desire to raise children in a solid parish alongside other faithful Catholics. I hope to do the same for my children.ElizabethAnne, you are young, probably single with no family. The families fighting for the only TLM in the large archdiocese of Boston need a solid parish in which to raise their children so that their children will hopefully keep their faith.
There is no other TLM in the archdiocese of Boston. The closest one to the south is 60 miles away in RI. The closest one to the west is in Stillriver, 40 miles away. There’s no TLM on the Northshore or in NH. I guess there’s one in Vermont but I don’t even want to think about how many miles away that one is.
All this drama is so unnecessary. If he just left Holy Trinity alone (and let FSSP come in), they be a shining light in Boston for those who need more for their faith and their children’s faith.
www.cardinalseansblog.orgWhat is the website for the cardinal blog?
Some of the problems you mention in your blog are concerns that I have as well. Some are the actions of the cardinal himself and others are the actions of committees or other archdiocesan representatives.Cardinal Sean is an enigma. Young Catholics love him. Unfortunately, older Catholics who are not so orthodox love him too.
Here’s my (disorganized) take on him…
aquietcatholic.blogspot.com/2007/03/report-card.html
I was happy when he was picked as the new bishop for Boston. He sold the Chancery property quickly, he settled the lawsuits pretty quickly. He has met with victims, had healing Masses…and has tolerated a lot of heretics and their activities in Boston. He is no Finn or Olmsted or Vasa, etc.
What is the problem with leaving the TLM where it is? We are so close to getting the Motu Proprio freeing the Mass but Boston has so few churches left which can properly hold it.
He is no friend of orthodox and/or traditional Catholics.
The lawsuits have been paid for. Have you read the archdiocese’s financial transparency report? The lawsuits will be completely paid for by insurance and the sale of archdiocesan properties. The money from closed parishes is going into a fund that will be used for any expenses existing churches have. It’s all outlined in the report.
The thing I hate most about reconfiguration is that it pits parish against parish. The archdiocese made an attempt at getting people to work together by appointing regional councils to decide together which parishes would close. Unfortunately, it didn’t work very well because no one wants their own parish to close. But the fact is that some parishes had to close and most would stay open. And the ones that stay open may not be the ones that “make the most money.” If that were the case, all the parishes in Dorchester would be closed.
I am incredibly sorry that you have nothing good to say about Cardinal O’Malley. He is a wonderful and holy man who is doing his very best to work through a difficult situation he was thrown into. I have never found him to be untruthful. From what I understand, he has met with Holy Trinity parishioners at the chancery and has sent representatives to the parish on several occassions.
This is a very difficult time in our archdiocese, and I think it is unfair to assume that Father O’Connell, Cardinal O’Malley or any other representative of the archdiocese is purposely causing harm.
I have a problem with 88 parishes closing down and I understand your politicians up there are pro-choice Catholics. Does Cardinal O’Malley address this or refuse them Holy Communion if they attend his Mass?Some of the problems you mention in your blog are concerns that I have as well. Some are the actions of the cardinal himself and others are the actions of committees or other archdiocesan representatives.
Cardinal O’Malley is orthodox and traditional. How could he not be a friend to those who are the same? He champions the pro-life cause and traditional marriage. His homilies are extremely challenging to the faithful. I have seen him answer some tough questions, and he always does it with compassion but also with the fullness of truth. He is also a very patient man, and I pray that he does everything he needs to in God’s time.
It’s not 88 parishes; it’s 59 parishes. There are pro-choice Catholic politicians here and there are pro-life Catholic politicians here. It’s certainly a problem that there are so many pro-choice Catholic politicians here! I do not know if any of them attend Mass with the cardinal or not.I have a problem with 88 parishes closing down and I understand your politicians up there are pro-choice Catholics. Does Cardinal O’Malley address this or refuse them Holy Communion if they attend his Mass?