Why is Catholicism better?

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Peter_Plato said:
Actually the Bible is not full of people rising from the dead. Correct me if I am mistaken, but, as far as I can recall, there are only four instances of individuals rising from the dead in the Bible - Jesus, Lazarus and Jairus’ daughter and Elijah raising the widow’s son.

In each case, the actual rising from the dead was not significant in itself but in that the rising served as a powerful sign of endorsement from God, basically, of two persons Elijah and Jesus.
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There were others.

Elisha raised the son of a woman in Shunem (2 Ki 4:20-37)
A man tossed into Elisha’s tomb was raised by God’s Spirit (2 Ki 13:21) raised by God’s Spirit

Jairus’ 12-year-old daughter was raised by Jesus (Mk 5:35-43)
A widow’s son was raised by Jesus (Lk 7:11-16)

Tabitha was raised by Peter (Acts 9:36-41)

Eutychus was raised by Paul (Acts 20:7-12)

Also, many were raised at Christ’s crucifixion (Mt 27:51-53)
 
Shelly332 said:
I think your question is too broad. If you ask specific questions or ideas that you have issue with answers might make more sense.
If it were science vs Catholic belief, the big bang theory or the history of the Bible. All these types of questions have specific answers. tackle one belief at a time and it will lead you to more but these far out generalizations are a waste of time.
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Shelly, you’re exactly right.

I find that sometimes people avoid discussing particulars by trying to force people into explaining volumes in an (name removed by moderator)roper venue.

It would be far better to take it in smaller chunks, such as:
  • Why believe in any God at all?
  • Why believe in a monotheistic God?
  • Why believe in the Judeo-Christian God?
  • Why believe in Jesus? And in His Resurrection?
  • Why believe in Christianity?
  • Why believe in Catholicism?
Each of those steps have evidence to back them up, but trying to discuss the whole gamut here is like trying to force the ocean through a funnel.

While there is a progression of sorts through my list, there are “short-circuit” paths to evidence at some of the steps that can be used as a basis of belief in itself, or as corroborative evidence for the prior steps. For instance, the Resurrection of Christ.

I can provide some good books on any of those steps, and can discuss some of them although I’m not an expert on them all.

I’ll start with this: creation. The beginning of the universe.

ONLY the Judeo-Christian faith comports with scientific theories that the universe had a beginning ex-nihilo.
 
Skadi said:
Your right, that is where Christians and Pagans differ. We dont go around throwing our beliefs at people like they are established facts. They are called “beliefs” for a reason.
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Yes, but if beliefs are inconsequential and have no far reaching impact then there might be no valid reason or need to share them with others.

By analogy, if a knowledgable volcanologist held the reasoned “belief” that a volcano was about to erupt it might be important that the volcanologist does “throw his beliefs at people” even though he might only have just cause for belief rather than possess “established facts.” On the other hand, someone who spiritually discerned as a result of some esoteric mythology, that the world was about to end, then “throwing around” such beliefs might be unwarranted.

The difference between Christian and Pagan beliefs could come down to consequential import. If a belief is inconsequential you might be correct that it needn’t or shouldn’t be “thrown around.” However, if, say, the eternal destiny of individuals hangs in the balance, then such a belief might merit being shared whether or not anyone wants to listen.
 
Peter_Plato said:
Yes, but if beliefs are inconsequential and have no far reaching impact then there might be no valid reason or need to share them with others.

By analogy, if a knowledgable volcanologist held the reasoned “belief” that a volcano was about to erupt it might be important that the volcanologist does “throw his beliefs at people” even though he might only have just cause for belief rather than possess “established facts.” On the other hand, someone who spiritually discerned as a result of some esoteric mythology, that the world was about to end, then “throwing around” such beliefs might be unwarranted.

The difference between Christian and Pagan beliefs could come down to consequential import. If a belief is inconsequential you might be correct that it needn’t or shouldn’t be “thrown around.” However, if, say, the eternal destiny of individuals hangs in the balance, then such a belief might merit being shared whether or not anyone wants to listen.
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Yes, but there are verifiable and indisputable dangers related to a volcanic eruption.
 
Lokadottir said:
Thank you for answering why it works for you.
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Catholicism isn’t an easy religion. It is not about health and wealth and “what works”. When I converted to the Catholic Church I was seeking the truth. Jesus is the only real historical man to be publicly tortured and executed and then rise from the dead. If one believes that it was all just a trick why has there been no other person in human history who could do the same? 2,000 years later, who can duplicate all that Jesus did? Even atheists set their time on their clock in relation to how far along we have come since Jesus was born into the world whether they are aware of it or not. We celebrate New Year’s Eve all around the world based on this. Sure, they changed “BC” and “AD” to “BCE” and “CE”, but it is still divided at the same point in history. Nothing but Jesus Christ is historically significant about the time around 1 “BCE” to 1 “CE”. Here’s a video that explains the purpose of life. I please watch it, and tell me if you agree with him or not. Fr. Leo Clifford - The Purpose of Life
 
Lokadottir said:
Look if God is such a jealous SO as to damn me for seeing other people who lied about who they are which is outside of my fault, I want no part of heaven.
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Well sadly friend I hate to say it but you might go to the filthy hell.
 
Ecclesiaticus_S said:
Well sadly friend I hate to say it but you might go to the filthy hell.
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I don’t know if you are a practical joker or merely a misguided zealot with no manners, but I am going to have to report you to the moderators.

Edwin
 
Lokadottir said:
Catholic actually.
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So you were baptized, and confirmed in the Catholic Church?

EDIT: I just read some of the appallingly rude posts here directed your way, if you wish to converse in some other thread some other time it’s okay by me.

Sorry about that. I am out of this one. :tiphat:
 
Ecclesiaticus_S said:
Well sadly friend I hate to say it but you might go to the filthy hell.
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Or she may drink with her ancestors and the gods in Valhalla, I guess we have to wait and see. But i’ll say this, no religion class description of heaven ever impressed me to much. Personally, when they told me that I would love everyone in heaven like my wife on earth I almost walked out of class. I was down right offended.
 
Lokadottir said:
Hello ladies and gentlemen! I noticed that a previous thread about paganism was closed. Let’s try this again. Let’s see if we can all manage to be big boys and girls and play nice! (To be perfectly clear, this includes myself and all are welcome to call me out if I behave poorly.)
So something that bothers me about Christianity is its monopoly on truth. Can anyone explain how this makes sense. I don’t take issue with you believing its true. I believe my own to be true but I’m also aware it is indeed a faith. I have found it to be true through spiritual experience but that can only apply, logically, for me.
Why the insistence that Christianity/Catholicism has it right?

(To clarify I’m not Wiccan and I have listed my religion specifically you can look it up its not too hard I promise!)
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Why do you think Christianity has a monopoly on truth?
 
Isaiah45_9 said:
Why do you think Christianity has a monopoly on truth?
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I think what she meant was “Why do Christians believe they have a monopoly on truth”. Most pagan religions (when taken allegorically) are not mutually exclusive.
 
Skadi said:
Or she may drink with her ancestors and the gods in Valhalla, I guess we have to wait and see. But i’ll say this, no religion class description of heaven ever impressed me to much. Personally, when they told me that I would love everyone in heaven like my wife on earth I almost walked out of class. I was down right offended.
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Or that you won’t miss anyone you knew in life who was sent to Hell. That one makes me very upset.
 
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