Why is Christianity right and Islam wrong?

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SteveVH said:
Just so you know, Jesus gave his life voluntarily for the life of the world. It was the sacrifice of His life that gives us life and He gave His life willingly out of the great love He has for us. I find it sad that non-Christians do not know a God capable of such incomprehensible love.

The entire reason that Christ became man was for this very purpose. If God our Father prevented Jesus from being crucified then he also prevented our salvation.
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I am well aware of the story of Jesus according to the Catholics. Thank you for the refresher.
 
SteveVH said:
Just so you know, Jesus gave his life voluntarily for the life of the world. It was the sacrifice of His life that gives us life and He gave His life willingly out of the great love He has for us. I find it sad that non-Christians do not know a God capable of such incomprehensible love.

The entire reason that Christ became man was for this very purpose. If God our Father prevented Jesus from being crucified then he also prevented our salvation.
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Research in to other religions might change your view.

Does Christ allow others to Judge another Heart? How does a human know what is truly in another heart?

Should that not be left for God?

Regards Tony
 
tonyfish58 said:
Research in to other religions might change your view.

Does Christ allow others to Judge another Heart? How does a human know what is truly in another heart?

Should that not be left for God?

Regards Tony
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Christians believe that Jesus is the only way. When we entrust others to the mercy of God, we rejoice in the fact that we have reason to believe that there are some (many?) who have known Christ without realising it was Him.
 
Novocastrian said:
Christians believe that Jesus is the only way. When we entrust others to the mercy of God, we rejoice in the fact that we have reason to believe that there are some (many?) who have known Christ without realising it was Him.
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Very well said Novocastrian. That aspect of Christ which manifests itself in many ways unbeknownst to the the person is the Divine Godhead, the Primal Will.

There are many who believe that this Divine Godhead was manifest in Muhammad too.
 
tonyfish58 said:
Research in to other religions might change your view.

Does Christ allow others to Judge another Heart? How does a human know what is truly in another heart?

Should that not be left for God?

Regards Tony
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For the sake of clarity, this is the post to which you responded:
Originally Posted by SteveVH
Just so you know, Jesus gave his life voluntarily for the life of the world. It was the sacrifice of His life that gives us life and He gave His life willingly out of the great love He has for us. I find it sad that non-Christians do not know a God capable of such incomprehensible love.
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The entire reason that Christ became man was for this very purpose. If God our Father prevented Jesus from being crucified then he also prevented our salvation.
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What in the world does judging another’s heart have to do with my statement? Please point me to the words in which such judgment is evident. 🤷
 
tonyfish58 said:
Research in to other religions might change your view.

Does Christ allow others to Judge another Heart? How does a human know what is truly in another heart?

Should that not be left for God?

Regards Tony
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Originally Posted by SteveVH
I find it sad that non-Christians do not know a God capable of such incomprehensible love.
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This must be the statement to which you are referring. I stand by that statement.

This is not a judgment of one’s heart. There are many, many wonderful people with good hearts who do not know the saving love of Jesus Christ; a Creator who would voluntarily give his own life for his creatures out of nothing more than gratuitous love so that they might live with him for eternity.

In this specific case, this saving act of God, this demonstration of incomprehensible love, is flatly denied and replaced by a god who would deceive mankind. It is not unreasonable to conclude that one who denies the passion, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ is also not aware of the immense love that God has for us all.
 
SteveVH said:
. There are many, many wonderful people with good hearts who do not know the saving love of Jesus Christ; a Creator who would voluntarily give his own life for his creatures out of nothing more than gratuitous love so that they might live with him for eternity.

In this specific case, this saving act of God, this demonstration of incomprehensible love, is flatly denied and replaced by a god who would deceive mankind. It is not unreasonable to conclude that one who denies the passion, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ is also not aware of the immense love that God has for us all.
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Eloquent, wise and focused analysis. Thank you SteveVH :clapping:

MJ
 
SteveVH said:
This must be the statement to which you are referring. I stand by that statement.

This is not a judgment of one’s heart. There are many, many wonderful people with good hearts who do not know the saving love of Jesus Christ; a Creator who would voluntarily give his own life for his creatures out of nothing more than gratuitous love so that they might live with him for eternity.

In this specific case, this saving act of God, this demonstration of incomprehensible love, is flatly denied and replaced by a god who would deceive mankind. It is not unreasonable to conclude that one who denies the passion, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ is also not aware of the immense love that God has for us all.
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SteveVH - Have you considered that in trying to show how much you love God, you are also offering rejection, I can assure you others also have as much Love for God? To pitch your Love as greater takes away from the Majesty of Christ - IMHO.

I recently traveled to Morocco and visited the Azrou Mountains and was taken on a tour by a wonderful man named Karim. Karim is a Muslim and a devoted Muslim. His love for God transcends this earthly allusion and His Faith and Love for God can move people near him.

I would suggest that this will never be a good argument to attract people to Christ.

Regards Tony
 
MartinJordan said:
Eloquent, wise and focused analysis. Thank you SteveVH :clapping:

MJ
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Yes it is Focused.

Have you considered it is hard to love the whole when you only love a part?

God is the Focus of our Love and He has many Pieces of Pie that make a whole pie!

We have no idea how Great Gods Unconditional Love is, we are veiled by our earthly desires and needs. This given the case, then no one knows the station of another.

“Know thou of a certainty that Love is the secret of God’s holy Dispensation, the manifestation of the All-Merciful, the fountain of spiritual outpourings. Love is heaven’s kindly light, the Holy Spirit’s eternal breath that vivifieth the human soul. Love is the cause of God’s revelation unto man, the vital bond inherent, in accordance with the divine creation, in the realities of things. Love is the one means that ensureth true felicity both in this world and the next. Love is the light that guideth in darkness, the living link that uniteth God with man, that assureth the progress of every illumined soul. Love is the most great law that ruleth this mighty and heavenly cycle, the unique power that bindeth together the divers elements of this material world, the supreme magnetic force that directeth the movements of the spheres in the celestial realms. Love revealeth with unfailing and limitless power the mysteries latent in the universe. Love is the spirit of life unto the adorned body of mankind, the establisher of true civilization in this mortal world, and the shedder of imperishable glory upon every high-aiming race and nation.
Whatsoever people is graciously favoured therewith by God, its name shall surely be magnified and extolled by the Concourse from on high, by the company of angels, and the denizens of the Abhá Kingdom. And whatsoever people turneth its heart away from this Divine Love—the revelation of the Merciful—shall err grievously, shall fall into despair, and be utterly destroyed. That people shall be denied all refuge, shall become even as the vilest creatures of the earth, victims of degradation and shame.
O ye beloved of the Lord! Strive to become the manifestations of the love of God, the lamps of divine guidance shining amongst the kindreds of the earth with the light of love and concord. All hail to the revealers of this glorious light”! Selections From the Writings of ‘Abdu’l-Bahá - Link - forums.catholic-questions.org/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=11292067

Regards Tony
 
I think the Pope has a good handle on this subject

“‘God is not Catholic,’” Scalfari quoted the pope as saying, according to NBC News. Confused, he asked Pope Francis to elaborate, and the pontiff reportedly replied, “‘God is universal, and we are Catholic in the sense of the way we worship him.’”

Thus others have another way of worshiping the same God and their Love as special for them! 👍

Regards Tony
 
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