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Elena321
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Attend a different church etc…
Besides the Eastern Orthodox communities, where else is Jesus substantially present in the Holy Eucharist?Attend a different church etc…
Leaving the One true church Jesus founded to meet a man from another religion puts meeting a man above Jesus. This is sinful in any christian religion.Even if they are baptised catholic but not sure what they believe?
What if they attend other Churches just to “check it out” or to (hopefully) meet a man?
I would suggest reading the scriptures for you, unless you don’t believe in the bible .Just for the sake of discussion (and please understand that I do not believe this myself) but this poses a circular argument.
“Why is it a sin to leave the Catholic Church?”
“Because the Catholic Church is the one true church.”
“Oh yeah, well who says so?”
“The Catholic Church.”
That’s almost like the joke that goes “You can’t post anything on the Internet that isn’t true.” “Where did you read that?” “On the Internet.”
I’ll bet there is not one single religious faith in the whole world - Christian and non-Christian alike - that doesn’t think it is the one true church.
Viewing this as an objective observer and not as a Catholic, what makes the Catholic Church “special”? Who, besides the Church itself, says this is true?
Oriental Orthodox Church, Church of the East are some names.Besides the Eastern Orthodox communities, where else is Jesus substantially present in the Holy Eucharist?
I said (or at least implied) that my question was hypothetical and I don’t really need educated on the matter. But thank you for your response.I would suggest reading the scriptures for you, unless you don’t believe in the bible .
Edited to add:especially–Acts
If you attend another church just for curiosity, I don’t think it is a sin. (That should not replace Sunday mass at your catholic church).Even if they are baptised catholic but not sure what they believe?
What if they attend other Churches just to “check it out” or to (hopefully) meet a man?
Attend a different church etc…
I don’t think this is accurate, actually. Committing mortal sin does separate yourself from the grace of God, but it does not cause you to leave the church. In fact, people living in mortal sin are encouraged to participate in all other areas of church life, outside of receiving communion.The only effective way to leave the church is to commit a mortal sin
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ie being in a state of mortal sin means you are not considered to be included among the members of the mystical body of Christ
Actually my church doesn’t claim to be the one true church. We claim to be part of the one holy catholic and apostolic church, but we don’t claim out particular church is the one true church. And we’re not alone. Many Protestant Churches as well make no claim to being alone the one true church. Rather we claim to be part of Christ’s church.Just for the sake of discussion (and please understand that I do not believe this myself) but this poses a circular argument.
“Why is it a sin to leave the Catholic Church?”
“Because the Catholic Church is the one true church.”
“Oh yeah, well who says so?”
“The Catholic Church.”
That’s almost like the joke that goes “You can’t post anything on the Internet that isn’t true.” “Where did you read that?” “On the Internet.”
I’ll bet there is not one single religious faith in the whole world - Christian and non-Christian alike - that doesn’t think it is the one true church.
Viewing this as an objective observer and not as a Catholic, what makes the Catholic Church “special”? Who, besides the Church itself, says this is true?
To be fair, it’s not only Catholic Churches that contain tabernacles. And even the RCC agrees that select churches outside itself have the full grace of the sacraments, namely the Orthodox and Oriental churches. So this isn’t necessarily the best argument to present to the OP.To willfully reject the Catholic Church knowing it to be the Church established by Christ is to cut oneself off from the grace of the sacraments entrusted to this Church, and without grace there is no salvation. There is no tabernacle in churches that deny the Real Presence and in communion you receive a mere piece of bread. It’s running away from a banquet to eat dry corn husks.
If the Church is not true than what is/is not a sin is not true. Therefore this entire thread would be moot.Just for the sake of discussion (and please understand that I do not believe this myself) but this poses a circular argument.
“Why is it a sin to leave the Catholic Church?”
“Because the Catholic Church is the one true church.”
“Oh yeah, well who says so?”
“The Catholic Church.”
That’s almost like the joke that goes “You can’t post anything on the Internet that isn’t true.” “Where did you read that?” “On the Internet.”
I’ll bet there is not one single religious faith in the whole world - Christian and non-Christian alike - that doesn’t think it is the one true church.
Viewing this as an objective observer and not as a Catholic, what makes the Catholic Church “special”? Who, besides the Church itself, says this is true?
Isn’t that claim in the same manner he says?Actually my church doesn’t claim to be the one true church. We claim to be part of the one holy catholic and apostolic church, but we don’t claim out particular church is the one true church. And we’re not alone. Many Protestant Churches as well make no claim to being alone the one true church. Rather we claim to be part of Christ’s church.
I am aware that it is considered a mortal sin neglecting to attend sunday mass without good reasonI don’t think this is accurate, actually. Committing mortal sin does separate yourself from the grace of God, but it does not cause you to leave the church. In fact, people living in mortal sin are encouraged to participate in all other areas of church life, outside of receiving communion.
The only way to “leave the church” in that sense is to be excommunicated, and that is something else entirely.
It is a sin to “leave the church” by way of going to another church and ignoring Catholicism because it is a sin to skip mass on Sundays for anything other than a grave reason. The Church did not found the Church, Christ did. He said so himself. Stick with Jesus and you can’t go wrong!