Why is it wrong to love Mary?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Jimmy_B
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
I think your comments are elitist. I don’t understand why you must be the best at Christianity. Is it a contest?
Hello Namesake, how are you? 👋

*I can appreciate your comments. *Sorry, you feel that way, I was replying to another post here and just trying to clear up some “Protestant Myths” regarding Catholicism, started by some “Protestants”. Forgive me for defending my Catholic faith 😊 and please don’t take it personally .:rolleyes:

By the way, do you love Mary?

Great hearing from you, thank you for your comments.
👍
 
Hello Namesake, how are you? 👋

*I can appreciate your comments. *Sorry, you feel that way, I was replying to another post here and just trying to clear up some “Protestant Myths” regarding Catholicism, started by some “Protestants”. Forgive me for defending my Catholic faith 😊 and please don’t take it personally .:rolleyes:

By the way, do you love Mary?

Great hearing from you, thank you for your comments.
👍
Hi JB. Yes I love Mary, but probably not the same way you do. Is that OK with you?
 
Hello there…wow it must be really tough having a different religion from your other family members…in some way i can relate to you (but i know its a different case)… 🙂

way back, i joined a Bible study group with my protestant friends after work and i know you call it a cell group right? i really am amazed at how they were so knowledgeable about the scriptures…it makes me feel like i want to be like that…it even reached to the point that they’re inviting me to be to baptized in and i’m asking myself if i really wanted to convert to Protestantism…but you know what? it became a problem specially when my mother learned about it…she’s a conservative Catholic and **she really discouraged us **(my other siblings) to have a different religion, since this may be, in some way, cause some misunderstandings due to different beliefs…i really am very confused at those times…its like my mother stopped speaking to me and it really hurts and is very hard going home having this huge and heavy feeling in my heart…

i prayed sincerely about it and have done a Bible cutting so that i may be guided on what to do…but you know what really amazed me? i got my answer right away…no questions asked because the answer is very very obvious…

the words revealed to me were those written in Matthew 15:1-9 - Jesus answered, “And why do you disobey God’s command and follow your own teaching? For God said, ‘Respect your father and your mother,’ and ‘If you curse your father or mother, you are to be put to death.’ But you teach that if people have something they could use to help their father or mother, but say, ‘This belongs to God, they do not need to honor their father. In this way you disregard God’s command, in order to follow your own teaching. You hypocrites! How right Isaiah was when he prophesied about you!
These people, says God, honor me with their words, but their heart is really far away from me.
It is no use for them to worship me, because they teach human rules as though they were my laws!’”.

even my mother was really surprised about this and was very happy about it…am still okay with my Protestants friends and i told them that i already had my answer and they respected my decision…no need to change religion because i’m really very happy and proud being a Caholic…

just really wanted to share my experience to you…asked God’s help so that you may also bring your family close to HIM…

🙂
Hi, I know what you must have felt when you told your parents about being converted to Protestant. In 2004, I became a follower of Christ. My parents and brother/sisters are all Catholic. So I can relate. However, when you feel the calling of God, it is your decision, and not anyone else. Savation of your soul is in your belief in God. No others (parents, etc) can save you. I followed my calling. My parent at times do not talk to me… but I am witnessing to them… Only God calling will be their salvation… I hope and pray.

About the verse you sited- Matthew 15:1-9. These verses are dealing with Pharisees trying to trap Jesus in answering why His diciples do not follow the traditions or law of Moses (verse 1-2).
It has nothing to do about respecting your parents. It is about Pharisees making the traditions much more important than pleasing God.

[Mat 15:1] Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked,
Mat 15:2] “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!”
[Mat 15:3] Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition?

God bless…
 
Hi, I know what you must have felt when you told your parents about being converted to Protestant. In 2004, I became a follower of Christ. My parents and brother/sisters are all Catholic. So I can relate.
God bless…
The last time I checked, practicing Catholic Christians have always been followers of Christ. I don’t get your point.
 
The last time I checked, practicing Catholic Christians have always been followers of Christ. I don’t get your point.
His point is pretty simple. He belives he’s right and we’re wrong.
 
mmm, aren’t we all arrogant in some way?
**Actually, no. 😉

And how is it that Catholics who leave Christ’s Church all of a sudden are on the “true path” of following Christ, especially when they reject the Eucharist and the grace of the other sacraments, specifically Reconciliation? It makes absolutely no sense to me how people like that think, or how they convince themselves that they are right and we have been wrong.**
 
**Actually, no. 😉
Sure;) **
And how is it that Catholics who leave Christ’s Church all of a sudden are on the “true path” of following Christ, especially when they reject the Eucharist and the grace of the other sacraments, specifically Reconciliation? It makes absolutely no sense to me how people like that think, or how they convince themselves that they are right and we have been wrong.
It must take a great deal of ethier denial or ignorance.
 
Hello, Huguenot,
Your comment is kind of confusing to me. I don’t know if your comment was meant for the Catholic faith as being “sexist” but here are some general observations.

Note: If your comment (above) was meant for the Catholic faith, in a negative way, comments like these are common and they are false and another Protestant myth regarding Catholicism.

Should I continue, or should I stop? The Catholic Faith has a great love and respect for women. There is much written about “respecting” women in the Catechism.

It seems to me that the Roman Catholic Church might revere woman more than many other “Protestant” religions. This includes many woman that the “Bible-alone” crowd and other non-Catholic Christian’s are not aware of, or avoid learning about because it might be “Catholic”. The Catholic Church’s position on “Marriage” and “Life” shows a respect for women.

Please correct me if I am wrong and please clarify your comments.
I wasn’t alluding to the Catholic faith at all, just joking about my own church : what I wanted to say is that if we had had some preaching only about women ( like Esther and Mary for example ) then it means we are sexist ( if we don’t have any preaching on the MEN mentioned in the Bible … and that is what I would call “sexist the other way round” : favouring women compared to men … )
Maybe I wasn’t very clear but English is not my native language …
 
Hello there…wow it must be really tough having a different religion from your other family members…in some way i can relate to you (but i know its a different case)… 🙂

way back, i joined a Bible study group with my protestant friends after work and i know you call it a cell group right? i really am amazed at how they were so knowledgeable about the scriptures…it makes me feel like i want to be like that…it even reached to the point that they’re inviting me to be to baptized in and i’m asking myself if i really wanted to convert to Protestantism…but you know what? it became a problem specially when my mother learned about it…she’s a conservative Catholic and she really discouraged us (my other siblings) to have a different religion, since this may be, in some way, cause some misunderstandings due to different beliefs…i really am very confused at those times…its like my mother stopped speaking to me and it really hurts and is very hard going home having this huge and heavy feeling in my heart…

i prayed sincerely about it and have done a Bible cutting so that i may be guided on what to do…but you know what really amazed me? i got my answer right away…no questions asked because the answer is very very obvious…

the words revealed to me were those written in Matthew 15:1-9 - Jesus answered, “And why do you disobey God’s command and follow your own teaching? For God said, ‘Respect your father and your mother,’ and ‘If you curse your father or mother, you are to be put to death.’ But you teach that if people have something they could use to help their father or mother, but say, ‘This belongs to God, they do not need to honor their father. In this way you disregard God’s command, in order to follow your own teaching. You hypocrites! How right Isaiah was when he prophesied about you!
These people, says God, honor me with their words, but their heart is really far away from me.
It is no use for them to worship me, because they teach human rules as though they were my laws!’”.

even my mother was really surprised about this and was very happy about it…am still okay with my Protestants friends and i told them that i already had my answer and they respected my decision…no need to change religion because i’m really very happy and proud being a Caholic…

just really wanted to share my experience to you…asked God’s help so that you may also bring your family close to HIM…

🙂
but does respecting one’s parents necessarily mean to have the same religion as them ? If I follow your point of view I should have remained an atheist to be like the rest of my family, but how can you remain an atheist if you believe in God ???
the situation is quite different …
 
I wasn’t alluding to the Catholic faith at all, just joking about my own church : what I wanted to say is that if we had had some preaching only about women ( like Esther and Mary for example ) then it means we are sexist ( if we don’t have any preaching on the MEN mentioned in the Bible … and that is what I would call “sexist the other way round” : favouring women compared to men … )
Maybe I wasn’t very clear but English is not my native language …
Thank you, Huguene.

BTW; Do you love Mary?
 
Hi JB. Yes I love Mary, but probably not the same way you do. Is that OK with you?
Hello Namesake,

Yes, that’s ok with me, I am glad to know that you too love Mary, the Mother of God.

Do you respect Mary and believe that she is the mother of our Lord, that Mary is full
of grace, that she is blessed among women and that all generations will consider her blessed?
 
How does being in the glory of God prevent people from appearing anywhere? How did the saints appear after the crucifixion of Jesus? How did Moses and Elijah appear to Jesus? How did Samuel appear to Saul?

I think you have drawn an erroneous conclusion here.

No, a heretic is one who embraced the truth, then knowingly rejected it for false doctrine. You don’t qualify for this category, since you are clearly ignorant of the Teachings of the Apostles.
in your preceding message to me you quote a bible verse that say we shouldn’t judge our neighbour …
but when, at the same time, you say that I can’t be a member of the Body of Christ and then, in THIS message, that I am “clearly ignorant of the teaching of the apostles”, well, isn’t that judging ? you say about me things that I would never think of saying about Catholics, I hope it is your judgement on me personally and not on all Protestants …
what is strange is that this morning on a French forum I defended the Catholics who were being fiercely and dishonestly attacked by atheists ( there are quite a lot of atheists on French forums ), that puts me in a strange situation so I prefer to renounce coming here …I can’t help feeling it difficult to bear to be attacked so violently by some Catholics here while I’m on the same side on other forums ( atheists tend to think we will always be opposed to each other since, of course, Catholic-Protestant differences also appear on French forums, but in some cases we’re on the same side … for instance we all believe in Trinity, you don’t need to be a Catholic to answer a dishonest atheist that the fact that Benedict XVI belonged to a hitlerist movement doesn’t mean he is a nazi ( one of the atheists’ favourite attack at the moment ) since it was compulsory and that young Germans didn’t have the choice and so on … so I usually react when I see attacks of this kind, same with “Muslim attacks” on Christian faith …here it seems there are only Catholics and Protestants … )
By coming to Catholic forums I try to get nearer to the Catholic Church, but when I feel that the result may be the contrary ( if it makes me feel more distant from the Catholic Church than the way I feel now ) then I leave the forum precisely not to step “backwards”, I want to get as near as I can, but I cannot convert because it would be dishonest …
I consider Catholics as partners, not as “opponents”, of course not as “enemies”, but that’s a bit how I feel with some of the Catholic answers I get here …
so I’ll say bye bye to you …
and I thank all the Catholics on this forum who have helped me , sometimes even without knowing it ( in messages not adressed to me but that also helped me to understand Catholics better )
 
but does respecting one’s parents necessarily mean to have the same religion as them ? If I follow your point of view I should have remained an atheist to be like the rest of my family, but how can you remain an atheist if you believe in God ???
the situation is quite different …
Hello Huguenot…i think there’s some misunderstanding there…
Of course i’m not saying that you should remain Atheist since your parents and you’re family members are…

i can relate to the feeling of like being different from them when i have this eagerness to convert to a different religion once…but you’re right, its way more different from your case…that’s why i asked for guidance from our Lord to guide me in making a decision…and He revealed to me His words…

you have finally known God, i think its time for you to help your other family members to know HIM also…

that’s what i really wanted to say…sorry for confusing you…

God bless…

😉
 
good…a word to the wise.
[Mat 7:5] You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
[Luk 6:41] "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
[Luk 6:42] How can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
 
i notice at times you tell others what to believe also. Who appointed you to do this? Who gives you this authority?
Post an example, and I will give you the answer. I am not here to tell others what they should believe, but to defend Catholic teaching. Unlike the Church, however, I am not infallible! :o
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top