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Is it just me, when encountering a baptist they are able to speak in tounges, or what? I just trying to talk with her about the rapture and she went off on a Jesus spilled the blood then went into speaking in tounges, and I’d like to know, is it just that easy for them and can we do the same? :hmmm:
 
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then went into speaking in tounges, and I’d like to know, is it just that easy for them and can we do the same? :hmmm:
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Is she truely speaking in tounges as described in Acts? (i.e. everyone understood them in their native toung.)
 
They may call it speaking in tongues but it doesn’t sound like any language I have ever heard. I think it is a trance-like state and the language is unintelligible babble. It comes across as “I am holier than you” and “see God speaks through me” one-upmanship. I am not impressed but it is hard to respond once the “discussion” gets to that point.
 
I have Yet to hear a Catholic speak in tongues, especially during Liturgy.

IMO, sometimes, I think it’s for show…‘show-off’ that is.
 
If I’m ever in a Church and people start “speaking in tongues” I’m “walking out the door.”

It’s all hogwash, IMO.

I’m happy it’s something Catholics stay away from.
 
OK,I got back up off the floor now…All the Baptists I know, think that speaking in tongues is a sign of the devil.
I am not kidding!!! Many of them won’t even read books by authors who are involved with pentecostal/charismatic churches & organizations…
 
Heard of it, but have not ever really experienced it except on like some shows on TBN, Not to be critical , but I just didn’t believe it was honestly happening on their show! Some have seemed to think that in the Catholic Charismatic Movement it happenes…Maybe so… In 57 years I have not ever come close to an experience like it!
Mike
 
Who is what and the hizzy off da chain say what? Excuse peu a eplique pour moi? Moi et juste stupide!!!
 
I used to speak in tongues frequently.

Now I’ve decided I never spoke in tongues but was, in common with most (if not all) of the tongue speakers in those churches, fooling myself. It was just gibberish.

I know at least one woman who spoke in tongues. It started as fluent Spanish. Then after a year suddenly switched to fluent Italian.
 
Ours spirits speak with unexpressible groans.

It is possible one could give “voice” to them in terms of an attitude, or even a sigh or a look of disgust.

Others give a voice to them by babbling, but I suspect their technique is not so often allowing the spirit to express itself with unintelligible speech, but to make the “appropriate” babbling noise as if one is doing so.

I think the cry of a baby is “speaking in tongues” in that it expresses what is deep within and doesn’t bother going through a translator into human language.

This is not the “speaking in tongues” that is done in Acts, but certainly there is another kind of speaking in tongues, or else 1 Cor 14 would make no sense.

Alan
 
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faithbound:
Is it just me, when encountering a baptist they are able to speak in tounges, or what? I just trying to talk with her about the rapture and she went off on a Jesus spilled the blood then went into speaking in tounges, and I’d like to know, is it just that easy for them and can we do the same? :hmmm:
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since moving to Texas, where most of my neighbors are Southern Baptist, I have encountered extreme suspicion and distrust of pentecostalism and such manifestations among them, and in their preachers I hear on the Christian radio station. However, there a dozens of sects which have “baptist” in their name, so I can’t speak for them, we need some real Baptists to contribute here.
 
My mother inlaw is Pentecostal and my best friend was raised pentecostal growing up (now non-denom) so I’ve seen it many times attending their churches.

I always thought the were just getting caught up in the emotionalism of the preachers ranting sermon, and they sound almost identical to each other.The Baptists I know think they’re slightly cracked.

I always wondered do the people in The Catholic Charismatic Renewal sound the same? They speak in tongues also right?
 
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I always wondered do the people in The Catholic Charismatic Renewal sound the same? They speak in tongues also right?
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I went to a big charismatic conference here in Wichita where they did the blubbering stuff some. It was the same place where the speaker picked me out of the crowd and said very strange things about me right there in front of everybody and the bishop.

I’m not sure it’s all fake, but it could be that the sounds they make condition their mind to provide such prayer, which may be accompanying it either encoded into the blubbering or through another means, such as facial gestures or eye expressions maybe. That could be based on how subtle the speaker is and how aware they are of themselves.

During my recovery from mental illness, I actually incorporated what I believe to be a version of the “tongue speaking” but it was all very custom-made and on the spot, and sounded nothing like the blubbering usually associated with it. It was accompanied by extreme emotions and extreme attempts to control what I believed were evil spirits around me and family members and drive them out. It was very scary, but it was wonderful, beautiful, and worked perfectly every time.

Looked at from another angle, my kids for a while got used to a psychotic dad would be upstairs pacing, hear them fighting downstairs, and come down and do strange choreographs and odd motions, some very sudden and scary, without saying a word, then go back upstairs and suddenly they were no longer fighting.

Looking back on it, being psychotic and/or speaking in tongues in bizarre agressive dances while making very odd noises that make the “Men in Black” scene in the post office sound like nothing, seemed to do a better job at bringing the kids together than scolding them. One performance was usually all it took. :whacky:

Alan
 
I used to feel really “bad” that I didn’t speak in tongues. As if I must be soooooo unholy as to not speak in tongues. I would try and try and open my mouth and literally nothing would come out.

However, a priest said something very interesting to me. He mentioned another gift of the Spirit he felt like I had, and commented that the gift of speaking in tongues is the LEAST gift of the Holy Spirit. I was like, oh.

So I try to ignore all the holier than thou attitudes of some charismatics or people who use it as an excuse to not answer a direct question.

Though I must say that I do know some very sincere people who are so humble they only speak in tongues in private or within their charismatic group.
 
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I used to speak in tongues frequently.

Now I’ve decided I never spoke in tongues but was, in common with most (if not all) of the tongue speakers in those churches, fooling myself. It was just gibberish.

I know at least one woman who spoke in tongues. It started as fluent Spanish. Then after a year suddenly switched to fluent Italian.
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My best friend said the same thing… when she went to a Penticostal church were everyone spoke in tongues, she spoke in tongues. This went on for years - until she left. She now goes to a very Evangelical Methodist Church where no one speaks in tongues. She has since told me that she was “faking it” the whole time. She really WANTED to… and her Pastor told her to just “practice” the babblings and before long, she’d be doing it… never happened (she said). She now believes that very few - if any- in her old church had that particular “gift” but rather, they had a very strong desire to be close to God and thought that would do it…
 
Most of my life, I attended either Southern Baptist or Freewill Baptist churches. None of them spoke in tongues and as far as I could discern, it was some thing that was frowned upon.

I did attend a Pentecostal church a few times. For an hour before the sermon there was chanting and singing. People danced and seemed to get themselves into an emotional high. It reminded me of what old documentaries would show African WItch doctors doing before they healed someone. The congregation seemed to be working themselves up into an emotional almost trance like state. The music director admonished those who weren’t allowing themselves to be filled with the holy Spirit. It all seemed very odd to me. But they were very nice people, so I kept my opinion to myself.

I am not going to say that all speaking in tongues is fake or the result of people working themselves up into an emotional trance but it does seem that this is what most of these people are doing.
 
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faithbound:
Is it just me, when encountering a baptist they are able to speak in tounges, or what? I just trying to talk with her about the rapture and she went off on a Jesus spilled the blood then went into speaking in tounges, and I’d like to know, is it just that easy for them and can we do the same? :hmmm:
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This is an odd use of tongues, in conversation. Usually they use it in private prayer or it is the kind with an interpreter. It sounds like what you heard didn’t have an interpretation?

Also, this is not a Baptist phenomenon, usually. I wouldn’t assume what happened is the typical way that the gift manifests in people.

I doubt you ought to do the same. That is, don’t just start in the middle of ordinary conversation with speaking in sounds that no one but God understands. If you wish to pray with your conversation partner, I suggest the Our Father or other spontaneous prayer that the both of you can share in.
 
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Zooey:
OK,I got back up off the floor now…All the Baptists I know, think that speaking in tongues is a sign of the devil.
I am not kidding!!! Many of them won’t even read books by authors who are involved with pentecostal/charismatic churches & organizations…
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This is also my experience. The pentecostal/charismatic churches & organizations are the ones that I have encountered that speak in “tongues.”
 
It is very strange. with all the individuality and standing out that all the churches try to do, I can’t help but think of teenagers trying to discover their identity just to later, sometimes much later, become their parents because they see the wisdom in it.
 
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Jabronie:
If I’m ever in a Church and people start “speaking in tongues” I’m “walking out the door.”

It’s all hogwash, IMO.

I’m happy it’s something Catholics stay away from.
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Not so. Just something Catholics don’t typically encourage. Kinda falls into the same category as corporal mortification. It is on the approved list of penances, but you don’t see or hear about it at your local mass. Found this online:

DEFINITION: SPEAKING IN TONGUES

The Bible describes two kinds of speaking in tongues. What is more common today is more like what Paul’s First Letter to the Corinthians describes when Paul tells us that speaking in tongues is the least of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. People, caught up in the Spirit, speak unintelligibly. The apostles had a unique experience [at] Pentecost, when they spoke their own language but each listener heard the words in his or her own.

And here’s what NewAdvent says specifically, and here is NewAdvent’s more general and precise discussion.
 
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