Why is masturbation not focused on in the mass media or in science?

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If you want to hear about masturbation and its power over a person, you really need to look on the Moral Forum, but other than that, it seems a taboo subject in most of society. Just look at how society not only justifies homosexuality, but actually promotes it. Not so with masturbation, not so. Do people who masturbate get any consolation from society? No! But with homosexuality, society takes steps so that homosexuals do not feel guilty. Will society ever seek to help people masturbate come out of the closet and become acceptable in our society?

Is masturbation genetic, like homosexuality is supposed to be? How absurd.
 
I think you must see very different media than I do.

Masturbation is talked about a LOT, and it is always “it is healthy,” “it is normal,” “you are repressed if you don’t.”

This is on mainstream TV shows, mainstream music, discussed in “news,” etc. I don’t know what the precise situation is now because I’ve decided to clear a lot of that junk from my brain, but this was only a couple of years ago, and even then when I had no moral objection to it I kept thinking, “You know, if this was about nose picking I bet it would bother a lot more people.”
 
I agree pennsmama87! The vast majority of psychiatrists and clinical psychologists do not consider masturbation as disordered, much less a mortal sin unless it becomes a compulsive behavior.:rolleyes:
 
kozlosap said:
I agree pennsmama87! The vast majority of psychiatrists and clinical psychologists do not consider masturbation as disordered, much less a mortal sin unless it becomes a compulsive behavior.:rolleyes:
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Rank-and-file psychiatrists and psychologists are politically compromised as evidenced by their push to normalize homosexuality. They can’t be trusted in any matters of sexuality. They work at crossed purposes to the Church.
 
Maybe some people don’t understand what is being discussed. Do you think sometimes people are a little dense, or use euphemisms?
 
The euphemism may be a good point. Media from my perspective seems cluttered with references.

It may be that it’s also more -er- private and thus not sensational, and we know there’s a strong component of sensationalism in the media.

Blessings,
Stephie
 
Robert_Sock said:
If you want to hear about masturbation and its power over a person, you really need to look on the Moral Forum, but other than that, it seems a taboo subject in most of society. Just look at how society not only justifies homosexuality, but actually promotes it. Not so with masturbation, not so. Do people who masturbate get any consolation from society? No! But with homosexuality, society takes steps so that homosexuals do not feel guilty. Will society ever seek to help people masturbate come out of the closet and become acceptable in our society?

Is masturbation genetic, like homosexuality is supposed to be? How absurd.
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Fornication references are rampant in mass media.
 
In psychology, this topic is seldom discussed except to say it’s normal.
 
Masturbation was on my sheet of things to do to help with anxiety. Seriously.
 
I guess I’m just not sure what you’re talking about. It’s everywhere: magazines, books, TV shows, jokes, etc. In secular culture it’s considered healthy and normal, a way to explore your sexuality. Maybe I am just more sensitive to it because I am a mom to all boys?
 
I’ve never heard of it being mentioned at Mass. I guess it would not be the appropriate place to talk about it. (meaning the Priest) However, they talk about fornication and adultery at the Mass and all types of other sins. Why can’t masturbation be briefly mentioned in the Homily? Simply that it is a mortal sin of the flesh.
 
I had a confessor keep telling me it was nothing to worry about. I was so exasperated and annoyed with that attitude. I knew what the Catechism said. He enabled me for years to remain in denial about my state of grace. I stopped cold in 2010, by the grace of God, and have kicked porn to the curb as well. I even manage to banish impure thoughts, most of the time. To anyone who is struggling with impurity, believe me that I know what you are going through, and I sympathize, but it is toxic, a great evil perpetrated on you by a Godless society. There is help and support out there and by God’s grace, you can live a life of purity as well.
 
Robert_Sock said:
If you want to hear about masturbation and its power over a person, you really need to look on the Moral Forum, but other than that, it seems a taboo subject in most of society. Just look at how society not only justifies homosexuality, but actually promotes it. Not so with masturbation, not so. Do people who masturbate get any consolation from society? No! But with homosexuality, society takes steps so that homosexuals do not feel guilty. Will society ever seek to help people masturbate come out of the closet and become acceptable in our society?

Is masturbation genetic, like homosexuality is supposed to be? How absurd.
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I’m not sure what you want. Do you want consolation from society? Society generally will tell you it’s o.k. That might be consoling.
 
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I’m not sure what you want. Do you want consolation from society? Society generally will tell you it’s o.k. That might be consoling.
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Not at all. As a psychologist I can tell you that the topic is rarely mentioned in the field. Sure, some like Masters and Johnson got a much of money to publish their classic research in sexuality, but they are among the rare exception.
 
Sometimes kids come up with names for it.

One kid I know called it da da da da Batman!

Another thought of it as riding the horse.

They did not know the actual name of it, and I don’t think they thought it was wrong at that time. It’s just that they picked it up from someone else, who probably heard it from another friend.

I guess the priest would have a hard time figuring that out.
 
Robert_Sock said:
Not at all. As a psychologist I can tell you that the topic is rarely mentioned in the field. Sure, some like Masters and Johnson got a much of money to publish their classic research in sexuality, but they are among the rare exception.
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I’m not a psychologist, but don’t you think that this topic, while not always mentioned by name, is included in the work of those who study neuroscience these days? It seems like our understanding of brain chemicals - dopamine and oxytocin and the like - and how they flood the brain during sexual activity, is indeed helping us to see this in a better light. It seems to me that this kind of neuroscience can indeed be helpful for people in dealing with the associated shame that one might feel depending on their religious or cultural standards, and it can also offer some hope for people who are seeking to lessen their dependency when masturbation becomes habitual.

I doubt that the Church will ever officially soften her stance where this is concerned. The reasons put forth - that it goes against the unitive, procreative purpose of sex - will not change regardless of our better understanding of why people do it. However, on an individual basis, it does seem like the Church is more compassionate, less rigid, concerning this sin as perhaps in days of old, but that is just one man’s opinion.
 
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Rank-and-file psychiatrists and psychologists are politically compromised as evidenced by their push to normalize homosexuality. They can’t be trusted in any matters of sexuality. They work at crossed purposes to the Church.
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So, if physicians and scientists don’t agree with your personal belief about LGBTQ individuals not being mentally disordered, then you refuse to listen to them on other issues? Since there have been wonderful advancements in the treatment of bi-polar disorder and schizophrenia in the past forty years, do you eschew those advancements too?🤷
 
This raises the old question of. . . what research gets funded, and WHY?

HOW?

The poster boy for this debate is prostate cancer, which kills about as many each year as breast cancer, but gets smidgens for research. Just an unpopular thing, you know.

It would be interesting to know if anyone IS studying masturbation at all in 2015, or if the knowledge we gained years back still holds.

The psychological aspect is the tough thing, since masturbation can involve so much sexual dysfunction, not to forget to mention sin.
 
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