Why Is Muhammad The Greatest?

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Isn’t obeying Jesus as God is a violation of the first law of the Noachide Covenant?
Assuming you mean idolatry, Moses spoke as God too in Exodus 4:16. All the prophets spoke as God and you were supposed to obey what they said as you would obey God. It’s only when you get into believing Jesus is God that it is, and even then some say that Trinity isn’t even idolatry since you are believing that it is still the one God of Israel. But if you accept the NT you have to accept that Jesus didn’t have all the same powers as the one God so technically it is idolatry.
 
But Jesus never excused Jews from Torah or Sabbath, he said that would last until heaven and earth pass. The New Covenant is better since it also ends sin and death, but it’s not here until then either, after Satan is gone and there is no more sin.
As I pointed out to you, what Jesus was referring to was the moral law because all the verses after Matthew 5:18 speaks about morality, such as murder, adultery, and dishonesty. The Jewish law of circumcision no longer applies in the New Covenant because God does not care for circumcision of the flesh, but circumcision of the heart. The Old Testament law of sacrificing animals no longer applies because as God said in both the Old and New Testament, Yahweh does not really care about sacrifice, but perfers a love and knowledge of Him. Jesus was a Jew, and even he stated that he desired mercy, not sacrifice (Matthew 12:7).
Saving lives are allowed on the Sabbath and all Jesus did was to save humanity from eternal death so by Law that was allowed. Of course Jews who protested didn’t realize all that. So Jesus wasn’t telling Jews to go willy nilly on the Sabbath, all that he did was approved of by God. He is allowed to do things we can’t.
Actually, Jesus was teaching them that to keep holy the Sabbath Day means to do good on the Sabbath, which is what everyone is capable of doing. In other words, if your sheep fell in a pit and was stuck during the Sabbath, it was okay to get the sheep out even if it was the Sabbath (See Matthew 12:11-12). We are allowed to do the things that Christ taught us. And Jesus’ main teaching regarding the Sabbath is to do good on the Sabbath, which is what he had been doing. Yes, saving a human life is doing good on the Sabbath, and that is something even we can do. Police officers, firefighters, doctors, nurses, and many common people have been known to save a human life even if it’s on the Sabbath… Counseling people with marital problems during the Sabbath is also doing good.

Matthew 12:11-12 He said to them, "If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? How much more valuable is a man than a sheep! Therefore, it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.

Luke 6:9 Then Jesus said to them, “I ask you, which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to destroy it?”
 
As I pointed out to you, what Jesus was referring to was the moral law because all the verses after Matthew 5:18 speaks about morality, such as murder, adultery, and dishonesty. The Jewish law of circumcision no longer applies in the New Covenant because God does not care for circumcision of the flesh, but circumcision of the heart. The Old Testament law of sacrificing animals no longer applies because as God said in both the Old and New Testament, Yahweh does not really care about sacrifice, but perfers a love and knowledge of Him. Jesus was a Jew, and even he stated that he desired mercy, not sacrifice (Matthew 12:7).
Do you think it’s ok for Jews to eat pork?
 
Do you think it’s ok for Jews to eat pork?
I’m not a Jew, but I don’t eat nor like pork. If the Jews don’t want to eat pork, that doesn’t bother me because I also don’t eat pork. I’m more into chicken and seafood, preferably reef fish.
 
Do you think it’s ok for Jews to eat pork?
I am not a Jew, but I don’t eat nor like pork. If the Jews don’t want to eat pork, that doesn’t bother me. After all, I also don’t eat pork. I’m more into chicken and seafood, preferably reef fish.
 
I’m not a Jew, but I don’t eat nor like pork. If the Jews don’t want to eat pork, that doesn’t bother me because I also don’t eat pork. I’m more into chicken and seafood, preferably reef fish.
But do you think Jews can eat pork and God won’t care? Or not observe Passover anymore? That’s not in the Ten Commandments either.
 
But do you think Jews can eat pork and God won’t care? Or not observe Passover anymore? That’s not in the Ten Commandments either.
Sacrificing animals was not part of the Ten Commandments either. Which one will God condemned - the one who ate pork or the one who murdered his brother because he did not love his brother? Did you not hear the teachings of Christ? The Gentiles were allowed to eat pork. Do you honestly think that God would be a hypocrite in punishing one human being for eating pork and then giving eternal life to another human being for doing the same thing? Would God punish a Jewish person for not sacrificing animals and then giving eternal life to a Christian for commiting the same offense?
 
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Absolutely. 👍
And that’s why Jesus was laid to rest on the Sabbath - To save us! (Unfortunately, muslims won’t believe this. 😦 )
You have addressed the Muslims. Of course Muslims do not know as much about bible as you do. But this laying of Jesus on the sabath day was a bit curious matter. Was it unusual or something wrong. People used to die on Sabath day. Were they never buried on that day?? I hope not.

Jesus also died on Friday. He was hurriedly laid to rest in a big room like tomb on same day, Friday. They were in a hury to bury him before the great sabath. Do you mean to say that they failed to bury him before the Sabath?? He was not buried anyhow in a proper way and no buryial rites were performed on him at all… Is that so?? Does burial of Jesus on sabath day make him greater than Muhammad?? That is the topic.
 
Sacrificing animals was not part of the Ten Commandments either. Which one will God condemned - the one who ate pork or the one who murdered his brother because he did not love his brother? Did you not hear the teachings of Christ? The Gentiles were allowed to eat pork. Do you honestly think that God would be a hypocrite in punishing one human being for eating pork and then giving eternal life to another human being for doing the same thing? Would God punish a Jewish person for not sacrificing animals and then giving eternal life to a Christian for commiting the same offense?
I don’t know, I’m just asking you what you think. Gentiles were told they only had to follow similar to Noahide Laws of not eating blood, etc. in Acts.

So Gentiles were never commanded not to eat pork. And Jews were never told they could start eating it, as far as I know.

So do you think it’s ok if Jews eat pork now, is it a sin for them or not?
 
I don’t know, I’m just asking you what you think. Gentiles were told they only had to follow similar to Noahide Laws of not eating blood, etc. in Acts.

So Gentiles were never commanded not to eat pork. And Jews were never told they could start eating it, as far as I know.

So do you think it’s ok if Jews eat pork now, is it a sin for them or not?
As I said, do you honestly think that God is a hypocrite? I pointed out to you that Jesus was referring to the moral laws. I don’t believe God is a hypocrite. Calling it a sin for one person to eat pork and then saying it’s not a sin for another person to also eat pork. That would be hypocracy.
 
As I said, do you honestly think that God is a hypocrite? I pointed out to you that Jesus was referring to the moral laws. I don’t believe God is a hypocrite. Calling it a sin for one person to eat pork and then saying it’s not a sin for another person to also eat pork. That would be hypocracy.
Then you are saying it’s ok for Jews to eat pork? Can you answer directly “Yes it’s ok” or “no it’s not”? I can’t derive a clear answer from what you are saying so far.
 
Then you are saying it’s ok for Jews to eat pork? Can you answer directly “Yes it’s ok” or “no it’s not”? I can’t derive a clear answer from what you are saying so far.
As I said to you before, if a Jew doesn’t want to eat pork, that doesn’t bother me because I don’t eat pork as well. If a Jew decides to eat pork, that still doesn’t bother me because God gave him the freedom to do so. In the New Testament, God is not interested in whether you ate pork, beef, or even chicken. He was more interested in whether you can love your neighbor.

And that is why after Matthew 5:18, Jesus spoke about murder, adultery, jealousy, dishonesty, and loving your enemies. He did not say anything about eating pork or sacrificing a sheep. He came to fulfill the moral law. As one of our saints stated, “The law was given so that grace would be sought, and grace was given so that the law can be fulfilled.” It is only through God’s grace that man can walk like Christ and fulfill the Laws of the Ten Commandments.
 
As I said to you before, if a Jew doesn’t want to eat pork, that doesn’t bother me because I don’t eat pork as well. If a Jew decides to eat pork, that still doesn’t bother me because God gave him the freedom to do so. In the New Testament, God is not interested in whether you ate pork, beef, or even chicken. He was more interested in whether you can love your neighbor.
Ok thanks.
 
Ok thanks.
You are welcome. It has always been my understanding through God’s word that when Christ said that he did not come to destroy the law and the prophets, he was referring to something much more than pork eating or sheep sacrificing.

Romans 13:8-10 Let no debt remain outstanding except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law. The commandments, “Do not commit adultery,” “Do not murder,” “Do not steal,” “Do not covet,” and whatever commandemnt there may be, are summed up in this one rule: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

Matthew 7:12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

Best regards,
Selene
 
Dietary laws in Judaism are much more than dietary laws. It is easy to forget their importance to Jews, especially here.

man continues to grow in power and domination over the physical world. With God telling us NO, there’s nothing preventing us from destroying ourselves. Restrictions on dietary habits help remind us that we are not all powerful and that there are limitations imposed on us by God.
 
You are welcome. It has always been my understanding through God’s word that when Christ said that he did not come to destroy the law and the prophets, he was referring to something much more than pork eating or sheep sacrificing.

Romans 13:8-10 Let no debt remain outstanding except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law. The commandments, “Do not commit adultery,” “Do not murder,” “Do not steal,” “Do not covet,” and whatever commandemnt there may be, are summed up in this one rule: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

Matthew 7:12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

Best regards,
Selene
Excellent post, Selene! I couldn’t have said it better! 👍 👍

Vickie
 
Perhaps the only way to come to any conclusion on this is to have a non-Christian, non-Muslim examin all of the information and choose. Who lead a better spiritual life and whose teachings, if followed correctly would lead to a better world.
 
What Notable Non-Muslims have said about Islam and Muhammad, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him.

Michael H. Hart of USA, compiled a ranking list of the 100 most influential persons in the entire history of humankind and authored the book “The 100 most influential persons", published in 1978 by Hart Publishing Company Inc. He ranked Muhammad peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, as the number one, at the top of his list.

The following are brief excerpts from the chapter on Muhammad, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him.

“My choice of Muhammad to lead the best of the world’s most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels.

Of humble origins, Muhammad founded and promulgated one of the world’s great religions, and became an immensely effective political leader. Today thirteen centuries after his death, his influence is still powerful and pervasive.

The majority of the persons in this book had the advantage of being born and raised in centers of civilization, highly cultured or politically pivotal nations. Muhammad, however, was born in the year 570, in the city of Mecca, in southern Arabia, at that time a backwards area of the world, far from the centers of trade, art and learning. Orphaned at the age of six, he was reared in modest surroundings. Islamic tradition tells us that he was illiterate.”

“When Muhammad died, in 632, he was the effective ruler of all of Southern Arabia”.

About the rapid spread of Islam which continued after the demise of Muhammad, Michael Hart writes that the lands that accepted Islaam included ”The Northeast of Arabia the larger Neo-Persian Empire of Sassamids; to the northwest bay Byzantine, or Eastern Roman Empire, centered in Constantinople . . . all of Mesopotamia, Syria and Palestine.”
“By 711, North Africa, to the Atlantic Ocean, then the Visigoth Kingdom of Spain . . . stretching from the boarders of India to the Atlantic Ocean, the largest empire that the world had yet seen”.

George Bernard Shaw:
“I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving the problems in a way that would bring the much needed peace and happiness. Europe is beginning to be enamored of the creed of Muhammad. In the next century it may go further in recognizing the utility of that creed in solving its problems.”
(A Collection of writing of some of the eminent scholars, 1935).

Lamartine’s tribute to the Prophet:
“If greatness of purpose, smallness of means and astounding results are the three criteria of human genius, who could claim to compare any great man in modern history with Muhammad?”
(Histoire de la Turquie, 1855).

Gandhi:
"I become more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet, the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers and his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle”.
(Young India, 1922).
 
Selene;:
Sacrificing animals was not part of the Ten Commandments either.
The Fourth Commandment: "All that first issues from the womb is mine… "

The Seventh Commandment: “You must not offer the blood of the victim sacrificed to me at the same time as you offer unleavened bread…”

The Ritual Decalogue: Exodus 34:10-28

xan

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