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Vickie, you may be a spitfire, but I have always admired your passion!I would say InJesus is another candidate for sainthood! I’m afraid I’m not, I’m too much of a spitfire!
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FaithofAbraham
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“Do you truly want an answer to your questions? Or do you just ask so that you can receive an answer to attack? It seems to me that the real answer is the latter.”
So far I’ve seen:
Jesus was never human it was just an illusion like the angels. Jesus was human but now he’s not. We won’t be humans either in heaven. Jesus is fully human and fully God, and the two parts talk to each other. Jesus prayed to God, but it wasn’t really worship. Jesus was just pretending to worship God as an example for disciples. Jesus used to worship God but now he doesn’t. It’s just a mystery and none of my business.
So I’ve gotten a lot of answers. I’m just continuing to see what else can be thrown at the wall, maybe something will stick.
Ya never know.
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MelanieAnne
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OK, so, let’s be clear, who is dancing?“Do you truly want an answer to your questions? Or do you just ask so that you can receive an answer to attack? It seems to me that the real answer is the latter.”
So far I’ve seen:
Jesus was never human it was just an illusion like the angels. Jesus was human but now he’s not. We won’t be humans either in heaven. Jesus is fully human and fully God, and the two parts talk to each other. Jesus prayed to God, but it wasn’t really worship. Jesus was just pretending to worship God as an example for disciples. Jesus used to worship God but now he doesn’t. It’s just a mystery and none of my business.
So I’ve gotten a lot of answers. I’m just continuing to see what else can be thrown at the wall, maybe something will stick.
Ya never know.
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inJESUS
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its time now to answer this post. You read “my God” and suddenly Jesus is a creature who has God like you and me…and you do not join other passages to get the full understanding of the relationship between Father and Word, and Father and creatures.
Who denies that Jesus acknowledges God? but what is the relationship betwen Father and Word in comparsion to Father and creatures? Is it the same? no, there is a difference … ones are creatures, the Word is eternally begotten, the Word, The creator.
Thus shall all the churches come to know that** I am the searcher of hearts and minds** and that I will give each of you what your works deserve. Revelation 2:23
When I caught sight of him, I fell down at his feet as though dead. He touched me with his right hand and said, "Do not be afraid. I am the first and the last Revelation 1:17
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I want to point out that you drew the Jesus wasn’t really human from one of my posts in which it did not say that.“Do you truly want an answer to your questions? Or do you just ask so that you can receive an answer to attack? It seems to me that the real answer is the latter.”
So far I’ve seen:
Jesus was never human it was just an illusion like the angels. Jesus was human but now he’s not. We won’t be humans either in heaven. Jesus is fully human and fully God, and the two parts talk to each other. Jesus prayed to God, but it wasn’t really worship. Jesus was just pretending to worship God as an example for disciples. Jesus used to worship God but now he doesn’t. It’s just a mystery and none of my business.
So I’ve gotten a lot of answers. I’m just continuing to see what else can be thrown at the wall, maybe something will stick.
Ya never know.
And it is your business so far as you are discussing it
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inJESUS
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I would say InJesus is another candidate for sainthood! I’m afraid I’m not, I’m too much of a spitfire!
Vickie
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FaithofAbraham
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I stay consistent and try to answer every question about my beliefs. If I don’t know I say I don’t know. So you couldn’t call that dancing.OK, so, let’s be clear, who is dancing?
Call it being fascinated with so many variations of belief existing within the one true Church.
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inJESUS
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I will not attack you if i read books and books tracing every word in Quran to heretical groups belief…all in Arabic though…if you could just read them …
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inJESUS
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got an answer ?
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MelanieAnne
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You have danced around so much I’ve been looking for your dance card for days to see how long it is.
FofA, I was born at night, but not last night, so PUH-LEEZE at least dispense with the evasion. People have hung with you long enough to deserve better.
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MelanieAnne
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Gosh, I just repeated the speculation of religious scholars of our own faith and I got THAT?
Never mind, forget I reported the words of Father Bruce. (St. Bonaventure, Huntington Beach, California, Bruce Patterson, Pastor.)
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FaithofAbraham
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“Is worship only based on acknowledging and talking to the Father? because Satan did both. Or does it have different elements, example acknowleding your position of creature you have with respect to the Creator? your position of sin with respect to the Holy One? your position of a human in need of forgiveness with respect to the Judge?”
I posted many times from Hebrews that Jesus prayed to God to save his life. I really don’t know what other kind of example of worship you would need to see for it to qualify as worship: if prayer and crying to God to save your life isn’t adequate for you, probably nothing else will do either.
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inJESUS
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what i read cannot be called speculations…they’re not based on arguments from silence but on extensive quotations and historical references…who knows, maybe one day they\ll be translated
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FaithofAbraham
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What haven’t I answered to your satisfaction? Now is the time to ask it.
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MelanieAnne
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What I actually wrote was this ~what i read cannot be called speculations…they’re not based on arguments from silence but on extensive quotations and historical references…who knows, maybe one day they\ll be translated
If you actually think it through, it is likely that scholars writing on such a subject did not write in Arabic. Islam was founded during the time when the only Christian Church was that currently known as the Catholic Church. And much of the scripture that Muslims rely on were derived from Christian and Jewish Scripture, although those scriptures may have been changed for Islam.
Muslims, writing in Arabic, are not the likely source for the belief/scholarly speculation that Islam is a heresy of Catholicism. If you are so interested, do the research yourself, but save the critiques. As for me, I trusted the word of Father Bruce. He’s a good priest and a good pastor and I have no reason to doubt him.
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inJESUS
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not all people have adequate knowledge of every question…some are still learning…
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ralphinal
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Some don’t even care about the questions, they just go on with teh faith as they understand it. It is a beauty of Catholicism: you can be as deep in doctrine or as shallow as you want as long as you have the faith.
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