Why is RCIA Only Offered Once/Year?

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Good question. In fact, my wife and I first inquired around Easter time and were told to sit tight (and continue attending Mass) until RCIA classes began in September. We were already pretty much decided on becoming Catholic, but I can totally understand how somebody less dedicated and/or just undecided might be put-off by the delay.

Well, now I’m the RCIA coordinator in my Parish…so now I have the perspective from the opposite side. I don’t think I’d be able to handle a year-round program! The summer break allows me time to relax a bit, take stock of what I did well and what needs improvement, and plan for next year’s program. I should also point out that we don’t stop after the Easter Vigil; we have a number of follow-on Mystagogia classes for the folks who were just received into the Church.

Also, the Church discourages having Adult Baptisms outside of the Easter Vigil, and it makes simple logistical sense to teach Catechumens and Candidates together. So you combine all this together and you end up with the usual RCIA program, running from the fall to the Vigil (and then some for the Mystagogia).

If we had enough volunteers (and students, for that matter) to allow for two overlapping classes, we could do it, although some of the students would probably end up having to wait some time after the RCIA classes until the Vigil…so there would still be some unfortunate waiting for some people.

Outside of the formal RCIA process, I always encourage prospective RCIA students to begin reading and studying and asking questions before (and obviously during) the formal classes. I try to make myself as available as possible to provide support, but we don’t have a formal program of study outside of the real classes.

God bless!
I totally agree!:angel1: (Please see my** second** post.) I think we should approach Holy Church with reverence, and respect for those working so hard to prepare these classes.

The OP mentions time and family constraints and health issues. Well, these are also issues among many RCIA staff, volunteers, and sponsors. Would that we had hundreds more to help, but the point is, this is the Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults, sacred and not to be considered lightly, as if one could just rush out and join another “denomination” in its place when one feels slighted. Let us first learn respect and humility as we approach Christ’s beloved Church. :heaven::gopray::signofcross:
Kathryn Ann
 
Bix, just a gentle note: The Catholic Church is not a denomination, and not merely one of thousands of places where a person rushes to replace it out of frustration and expects to be equally instructed or fulfilled elsewhere. The Rite of Initiation of Adults is a sacred tradition requiring reverence and much hard work by the parish, the Priest, the D.R.E. and the many RCIA sponsors who hold their responsibilities to be sacred. :highprayer:

*** You mention time constraints of these hurried people demanding year round classes. We should remember that the staff, volunteers, sponsors and instructors who run the RCIA for nine months also have families, time constraints and other responsibilities of their own, and some may well have their own private health issues.***

I, for example, sponsored a dear friend all year in RCIA from September through Easter, hardly ever missing a week night meeting. This February I was diagnosed with cancer, had surgery, and had to miss being there on some regular weekly meetings in March. It seemed a miracle that I only missed those few meetings, but each meeting is very important to everyone attending.

I would certainly not want health issues:crutches: to keep anyone from entering the Church, and I do understand people’s time restraints, including those of the parish staff and instructors.**

** I imagine the DRE of each parish would have much to say about all the work that is involved in setting up and running the RCIA.** Sponsors, for example, have a sacred role in being there for “their” candidate, catechumen, etc.

Visiting scholars and others who speak on the different subjects must be lined up ahead of time. The parish Priest must oversee everything, along with the D.R.E. and her assistants.

Summertime, remember, is a time when many parishioners go on vacation. Some of these parishioners work all year long and are not always available to run summer programs. ***Would that we had more people to help. Truly, I will pray for that! ***

If there are ways for individuals who cannot, for health or other pressing issues, attend the traditional autumn- through- spring time frame, I’m sure that others on this forum will inform us all. :highprayer::signofcross: In the meantime, those approaching The One Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church may learn the reverence and humility Her Founder so graciously showed us by His example. There is no real substitute, however rushed the seeker may feel.

Peace,
Kathryn Ann:heaven:
Please understand, I am not complaining about the RCIA process or the wonderful, loving people who so generously share their time and knowledge.

I’m certain if all calls by those interested in Catholicism were sent directly to the RCIA leaders this would help rather than being given a schedule of four months down the road. I looked at more than one parish and I was not referred to anyone, followed up with by anyone, and so on. This is not uncommon, sorry. … Parish secretaries are very busy and can only handle so much. So, I understand, but it doesn’t make it easier. I’m quite certain if all inquiries went through to someone in RCIA they would somehow find a way to touch base with someone. (even if it was just a follow up call or two) They are very kind and helpful people.

I’m suggesting something to help these people during the interim. A scheduled appointment with a priest or what about student summer sponsors or short term sponsors available to answer questions during this time so they feel connected. Giving those interested a head start by giving them some reading materials and rosary. It’s very difficult when you’re new to the church and don’t know anybody. Sometimes people feel turned away because they don’t understand the process. Many don’t even know about RCIA, much less the details it involves. That’s why I said they may end up joining a denomination - meaning the many ones out there. I apologize if my wording came across wrong as I typed. I’m under the weather, but do know better. 🙂
 
I totally agree!:angel1: (Please see my** second** post.) I think we should approach Holy Church with reverence, and respect for those working so hard to prepare these classes.

The OP mentions time and family constraints and health issues. Well, these are also issues among many RCIA staff, volunteers, and sponsors. Would that we had hundreds more to help, but the point is, this is the Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults, sacred and not to be considered lightly, as if one could just rush out and join another “denomination” in its place when one feels slighted. Let us first learn respect and humility as we approach Christ’s beloved Church. :heaven::gopray::signofcross:
Kathryn Ann
In all sincerity, it has nothing to with a lack of respect and humility. Look at how quickly Jesus transformed hearts and minds throughout the Bible. He didn’t call them and say - now sit and do nothing and leave them there without instruction or help. He can change people in an instant. If those that have had their hearts and minds touched by God are completely new to knowing the Lord or were lapsed many years - they need some direction or some point of contact. That newness and love and zeal that God places in them- that is valuable and precious. We can’t automatically assume God infused patience and knowledge of the Catholic faith. And how sad for that love and zeal to be mistaken for a lack of respect. I’m sorry, but after having been involved in hard to reach outreach programs … I can’t imagine anything more sad.

Please don’t misinterpret this as anything against RCIA or the hard workers. I’m simply saying we need more if want to keep those who come to us during this down time. Frankly, even when working, I would have been more able to offer time to volunteer in the summer. I’m sure there are people who would for a three - four month period. They might enjoy it and then decide to stay on with volunteering.
 
Please understand, I am not complaining about the RCIA process or the wonderful, loving people who so generously share their time and knowledge.

I’m certain if all calls by those interested in Catholicism were sent directly to the RCIA leaders this would help rather than being given a schedule of four months down the road. I looked at more than one parish and I was not referred to anyone, followed up with by anyone, and so on. This is not uncommon, sorry. … Parish secretaries are very busy and can only handle so much. So, I understand, but it doesn’t make it easier. I’m quite certain if all inquiries went through to someone in RCIA they would somehow find a way to touch base with someone. (even if it was just a follow up call or two) They are very kind and helpful people.

I’m suggesting something to help these people during the interim. A scheduled appointment with a priest or what about student summer sponsors or short term sponsors available to answer questions during this time so they feel connected. Giving those interested a head start by giving them some reading materials and rosary. It’s very difficult when you’re new to the church and don’t know anybody. Sometimes people feel turned away because they don’t understand the process. Many don’t even know about RCIA, much less the details it involves. That’s why I said they may end up joining a denomination - meaning the many ones out there. I apologize if my wording came across wrong as I typed. I’m under the weather, but do know better. 🙂
Bix, there is no need to apologize. I do understand where you’re coming from. I’ve noticed another poster here who wished to feel “more welcomed” in those sometimes awkward initial stages of inquiring. Here is the point of misunderstanding: There is social welcoming on the one hand, and then we have the other, where the person, after instruction for a length of time, is officially “Welcomed into the Church.”

I sat in the back pew of a Catholic church for three months, so humbled and awed as I heard morning Rosaries recited by the women.:gopray::signofcross: I began to stay on and observe the Mass. I was visiting my Daughter out of state at the time, and she had just signed up for the RCIA beginning in the autumn. She was home with my new Grand-daughter some of these mornings when I went alone. By the time I returned home, I felt keenly drawn to the Church!

I inquired, finding it was quite awhile for RCIA would begin. When it did, I was very shy when I attended Mass alone.

Because the Mass includes consuming the Blessed Sacrament, it is, for many protestants, something that they feel outside of and uncomfortable. *This does not mean they are unwelcome. * It can be a humbling experience to feel that awe and wonder of the Mass. One is humbled to see that one does not know all the traditions yet. There are over two thousand years of Church history to consider!:highprayer:

I have read the post here by one who is in charge of RCIA at her parish, and it is very enlightening. One thing stands out:* The Church traditionally prefers adults to be baptized at Easter time, and so the other RCIA (candidates) will also process along with them in unity. * “Let all things be done decently and in order,” are good words to remember.

Let’s say a person (a baptized protestant) feels drawn towards the Church. It’s mid May and RCIA will not begin for 4 months or so. The parish secretary tells the caller to come back and register in late summer. The seeker may not be given any other information. But something has drawn him or her to The Church! One of the posters here mentioned* zeal. *I think a period of quiet reflection is in order. One has to have an understanding of something in order to act zealously. But they are used to getting things done RIGHT NOW! What are they to do? Are there no committees? No support groups? What, you mean I’m actually going to feel, well, slightly uncomfortable?

Would such a person, full of zeal, not think to simply find a few books at the library? Would they not ask to schedule an appointment with the priest? Would they not find time to attend Mass? There is no one barred from sitting quietly and observing the Mass and praying. That should be comforting to the uninitiated.

With the proper attitude, anyone would be filled with wonder at the Mass! To feel unwelcome is to misunderstand the entire point.** The third word of RCIA stands for Initiation.**😊 In these days of instant gratification, the Internet, Blackberries and such, I think people’s minds, as you yourself put it are “boggled” when they come up against* initiation into the Profound and Mysterious*.

“Be still and know that I am God.” is a hint of what our job is as Initiates.:gopray2:

Even if a person is delayed by the start of the usual process, the seeker will find that if he or she follows that first step, (Heaven’s, are we expected to learn patience:crying: in the 21st Century?!!!) this same seeker will be ahead of the class when the autumn leaves fall.

If the parish is fortunate enough to have year 'round RCIA staff, that would be lovely. * And remember too that the seeker is free to make an appointment with the priest and ask his many questions.* How many of us would consider attending a college, or applying for a job, buying a car, without asking a few questions of his or her own? Here, the seeker, (the soon- to- be- Initiate) can actually do some initiating for himself. The priest will assure him that he will indeed survive the time in between, and is more than welcome to attend and observe the beauty of the Mass in quiet reverence. To do so in a humble and meek manner is a lesson that will serve the seeker well in the many years to come.

Peace.:heaven:
Kathryn Ann

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It boggles my mind that there is not one available beginning directly after Easter. So, many people are interested at that time and reflecting. If it is a person who does not normally attend church, this is a huge roadblock as they are wanting and ready to learn and become involved. A few weeks pass and with no support classes, etc. It’s easy to see how they would end up with another denomination during a five month waiting period. Many people having busy work schedules, health issues, etc do not have the time or resources on their own. 😦
In the Church where I teach the classes, if I find someone out of the time sequence, I always give too them a large book on what we shall be teaching them when their classes begin. This book is designed for fifth grade students so adults can follow the messages very easily…

They can read and call me with questions…

There are far too many subjects to cover in the classes for it to be done in any other way.
 
I went through RCIA and think it’s great but just remember–St. Peter didn’t have people go through a nine month process on Pentecost–3,000 people were added to the church on that one day alone.

I think ideally there should be two RCIA classes going on so that at all times of the year RCIA would be going on.

Having people wait from Easter to September is not a good idea–what if they die during that time? Oh–Pentecost was during that time!
 
When I went through RCIA (many years ago), I inquired at the church in the spring, and was informed of when the RCIA class began in the fall. However, the priest DID ask me if there was a urgent reason where I felt I would need to enter the Church sooner. I was fine with waiting, but I got the distinct impression that if there was a serious reason that I could have entered the church sooner after a period of personal instruction by the priest.
 
In the simplest term; because its easier for the staff/volunteers.

I would agree that RCIA should be offered year round. I knew a couple people that were interested in April or May and got the standard answer of “wait til September.” They attended mass for a couple months but received zero contact after asking about joining and drifted away because they felt like the Church didn’t care about them converting. I convinced one of them to go to an FSSP parish where Father did the formation based on each person’s need.

The second problem I have with the scholastic year mentality is that generally both catechumen and candidates are lumped together in most parishes. This leads to treating all of them as if they have the same level of catechesis. If you are a Lutheran that was well formed, you should receive instruction on the differences between Lutheranism and Catholicism, not a month of this is the old testament, psalms, Gospels, epistles. It also leads to many parishes dismissing baptized candidates during mass which is an affront to their dignity as Christians.

The ideal situation is for a member of the clergy to form them, but most priest have zero time to exercise their role of teaching the faithful. Given that this is how we did it at the parish I was received into.

8 - 10 times a year we would start an inquiry class. Based on what each person needed we would have a couple different routes we went down and they were split into roughly 3 groups Unbaptized, Baptized but uncatechised, and Baptized with good Christian catechesis. The Unbaptized would have formation for 6+ months and be received on the Easter after the 6+ month. The uncatechised and well formed would be received after they were ready (we generally received candidates 4 to 6 times a year).

The key to year round RCIA is focusing on the individual. Our sponsors were not there just as a witness, but they were the person that helped with the individualized catechesis. While we had a general outline of topics we covered we did not have a 9 month lesson plan that all people had to “pass” to be received. We would present the teaching in a group, but the sponsors answered any individualized question. We also drove the classes based on what people were asking now, not what is next on the lesson plan. When someone would say that they think they were ready, we would meet with them and Father to makes sure they understood the faith and then set them up in a couple weeks or month to be received. All this requires staff and volunteers that are well versed in the faith and are dedicated to helping those that want to convert regardless of the effort it takes on the volunteers part.
 
I’m not sure what you mean.

They are only offered once a year, starting in September and ending at Easter. So unless someone is looking to join in June, July or August, I don’t see the problem. 🤷
Ideally, RCIA would be year round and the person would join at any time. A non-baptized person should spend a minimum of a complete year in RCIA and it shouldn’t be a given that a year is enough, some require much more time before they are ready – it’s a conversion process, not a 2 semester course which you pass or fail.

A baptized Christian should only be in the program long enough to be ready, that could be as low as a month or two for, say, a well-catechized Anglican/Lutheran to a full year or more for a non-cathechized person.

Processing everyone in 6 months, doesn’t in any way take personal conversion into consideration.
 
It appears obvious from the many posts that we ALL wish that the system could operate more “Year round” and on a much more personal level. That indeed would be the ideal.
There are a couple of quick points that bother me just a bit here though…

There seems to be something of a disconnect between what we expect of the Church and what we expect of other institutions of “higher learning”. Does anyone here who has attended college object to the fact that certain classes are only offered at certain times in the year? How about the student who is ready to go back to school in January but the academic year does not being until September?
Would anyone here say that this 6 month delay is a reason to NOT seek an education and a higher paying job? Would anyone agree that waiting 6 months to start school is sufficient reason to go back to digging ditches or flipping burgers instead of becoming a store owner or engineer?

Yet what is being offered in a parish RCIA course is so much more than a mere education for something temporal. It is a gateway into Christ’s most Holy church. A great deep rich treasure full of graces. Is this not worth waiting a few months for?

The other point is this. The RCIA program is generally staffed by volunteers and as many will attest, it seems like there are never enough volunteers in parish life.
This makes the Catholic friend or acquaintance even more important. As I mentioned in my first response here, the thing for the OP to do is to cultivate his friend’s curiosity with information, reading recommendations, conversations and research. It could well be a wonderfully fulfilling time for both as they grow in faith together and before they know it…It’s time for RCIA - heack they might even decide to attend together, one to enter the Church and the other just to learn more.

So - let’s not lay the problem off on the “RCIA” program and workers. The method of operation is a very common one in ALL educational arena’s. Certainly it can be improved if the resources are available, but they do the best they can with what they have to work with.

BUT - - -

More importantly is the need for the “personal touch” of the Catholic friend to make an inquirer feel welcome, important, worthy of the time and effort to meet with them one on one, talk about the Church, the teachings, the beauty, the depth, the history and so forth…
Such cultivation is THE KEY…

Peace
James
 
I’m a convert to Catholicism from evangelical Protestantism. (8 years 🙂 )

When the Holy Spirit leads someone into the True Church of Jesus Christ, He’s not going to let them get away. We’re not talking about someone deciding to re-do their living room, or buy a hybrid car, and then changing their mind. People who are sincere about Catholicism don’t allow a few months, or even a few years, to discourage them.

There is much historical precedent in the Church to waiting several years before converting to Catholicism. In the New Testament Church, the catechumens had two years of preparation before becoming Catholic. This was done to make SURE that they were sincere about their decision. They were not allowed to stay during the Liturgy of the Eucharist during the Mass, but only during the Liturgy of the Word. Nowadays, if someone was told that they were not allowed to stay during a portion of the Mass, they would be angry, because we aren’t used to being told, especially by a Church, that we CAN’T do something. We want everything right now!

Waiting for a few months or years is excellent discipline for many of us who have known very little spiritual discipline in the Protestant fellowships where we are taught to seek “instant gratification.”

Many non-Catholic Christians (not all) have been trained from their infancy to serve God on THEIR terms, not His. They expect instant gratification, or as they say, “We want to be FED.” The music has to be good, the pastor has to be a good speaker, the fellowship has to be friendly, the youth and children’s programs have to be excellent, etc. If things in the church don’t please him/her, the Christian walks, and goes off in search of another church where they can be “fed.” And then the cycle starts all over again.

We often talk about a “Name it and claim it Gospel.” Certainly there are many non-Catholic Christians who do not believe in that false Gospel, but none-the-less, many still get impatient with God and with their fellow Christians when they don’t “feel” that things are happening the way they think they should be happening.

Over my years in evangelical Protestant churches, I saw many “programs” that got started in response to the demand for action “right now,” and then fizzled out, leaving disillusioned people who often ended up drifting away from God. Oh, yes, of course there would be some prayer meetings for a few weeks or months so that we could “seek God’s perfect will,” and then we would say, “We’re ready! God is telling us to act right now,” and we would forge ahead, and within a year, the project would grind to a heartbreaking halt because it wasn’t really the right project or the right timing or God’s perfect will at all.

Now I want to add that NOT ALL Protestant denominations are so “instant.” E.g., in the Christian and Missionary Alliance, years of preparation are required before someone can become a missionary. The candidate has to complete four years of undergraduate school (college), earn a Master’s Degree (two more years), do a year of home service, and do a year of short-term missionary service on the field where they will be serving. This means that many of the candidates are almost 30 years old before they ever get to the mission field. BUT…the C and MA has a much better retention rate for overseas missionaries than other denominations or organizations that give their missionaries a shorter training period.

There is a lot to be said for taking our time and doing things in their proper timing, rather than trying to make things easier and take short-cuts.

Another major problem that many non-Catholic Christians have is a lack of ability to submit to any authority other than their own self. Yes, they say that they are submitting to God only, and hopefully that is true. But many non-Catholic Christians have no concept of submitting to a human authority established by God. This needs to change for a Christian who is joining the One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church. Catholic Christians submit to the Lord Jesus who has given authority here on earth to the Pope and the Bishops. It does not bode well when a seeker says, “I don’t want to submit to these men. I want to convert RIGHT NOW.” That attitude needs to go, and the prospective Catholic needs to learn humility and obedience.

Yes, we’re all incredibly busy here in the United States and yes, it would be great if we could do RCIA on our schedule rather than the Church’s schedule. But when it comes to joining the Catholic Church, we should not blame the Church for our own lack of fortitude.

Instead, we need to seek to cultivate this virtue in our lives. When told by the Catholic Church that we have to actually wait a few months or even a year, we should gird up our loins, continue attending Mass and making spiritual communions, learn as much as we can on our own (CAF is an excellent resource), make friends in the parish of our choice (if we would reach outside of our comfort zone and seek Catholic friends, we would learn that many people DO care about our conversion!), pray constantly, and grow in love for Jesus and our fellow Christians.
 
Good question. In fact, my wife and I first inquired around Easter time and were told to sit tight (and continue attending Mass) until RCIA classes began in September. We were already pretty much decided on becoming Catholic, but I can totally understand how somebody less dedicated and/or just undecided might be put-off by the delay.

Well, now I’m the RCIA coordinator in my Parish…so now I have the perspective from the opposite side. I don’t think I’d be able to handle a year-round program! The summer break allows me time to relax a bit, take stock of what I did well and what needs improvement, and plan for next year’s program. I should also point out that we don’t stop after the Easter Vigil; we have a number of follow-on Mystagogia classes for the folks who were just received into the Church.

Also, the Church discourages having Adult Baptisms outside of the Easter Vigil, and it makes simple logistical sense to teach Catechumens and Candidates together. So you combine all this together and you end up with the usual RCIA program, running from the fall to the Vigil (and then some for the Mystagogia).

If we had enough volunteers (and students, for that matter) to allow for two overlapping classes, we could do it, although some of the students would probably end up having to wait some time after the RCIA classes until the Vigil…so there would still be some unfortunate waiting for some people.

Outside of the formal RCIA process, I always encourage prospective RCIA students to begin reading and studying and asking questions before (and obviously during) the formal classes. I try to make myself as available as possible to provide support, but we don’t have a formal program of study outside of the real classes.

God bless!
Unfortunately, that model omits some of the most important readings of Ordinary Time. That time may not be as important for many candidates but it is very important to catechumens and they should definitely be getting sessions around those readings.
 
There seems to be something of a disconnect between what we expect of the Church and what we expect of other institutions of “higher learning”.

Yet what is being offered in a parish RCIA course is so much more than a mere education for something temporal.
JRHK, I think the two points above is where there is contention for me. RCIA is not an education program. It should be about conversion. When I started RCIA it was in late October and I almost didn’t “get in” because they had already performed the Rite of Welcome. I had a very quick conversion (too the point of a sense of physical shock/violence). God wanted me in the Church; now. I don’t know why, but I certainly know what was written in my heart. When I talked to the RE Director I told them that I wanted to go to confession and asked if I could pray in the Adoration chapel. The answer: “no, not until we get closer to Easter.” If you have someone that walks in and professes the faith and is burning for the sacraments, then to what purpose should the sacraments be withheld? Luckily I found another parish in the neighboring diocese that understood that God calls us each in our own time.

Faith is not an education process. Education informs faith, but it does not produce faith. That is the biggest problem with RCIA being under the religious education banner; it’s treated like school. My take on it was that when the Lord calls my job was to help the person understand the call, not to say jump through hoop x, y, z. We are not talking about getting an engineering degree, we are talking about people answering the call in their heart. We had some people that were in RCIA for 6 weeks and others that were there for 4 years. We made sure they understood the pillars of the faith and could fully embrace the truth when they said “I believe and profess all that the holy Catholic Church believes, teaches, and proclaims to be revealed by God.” That is not to say they got a theology degree, but that they understood the non-negotiables (i.e. birth control, marriage, the Eucharist, Sunday obligations, etc. [the “sticking points” for many both in and out of the Church]). We covered “advanced topics” as part of on going mystagogy (most continued meeting with us and new candidates for 6 - 18 months after they were received). For us confirmation and the eucharist were not the destination, but the begining of the journey.

What was important was that they followed the Lords schedule for them, not something lain out in a lesson plan. The result; Of the 18 people that were there when I started in the second parish I know at least 12 that still regularly attend mass after 5 years. The first parish had 90 people and expected that less than a third would still be there in 3 years. Now which route seems to have produces better results?
 
A baptized Christian should only be in the program long enough to be ready, that could be as low as a month or two for, say, a well-catechized Anglican/Lutheran to a full year or more for a non-cathechized person.

Processing everyone in 6 months, doesn’t in any way take personal conversion into consideration.
I remember you telling me this when I was going through the process, but I had checked with three churches and none of them made special provisions for baptized Christians at all. I wish they had.

I just want to comment on some of the posts I see on here expressing agreement with the length of RCIA or expressing support for RCIA hard workers.

I don’t think the OP is commenting on that. The OP appears to be discussing the lag time between once someone wants to convert and when they are able to start RCIA or get any type of support from other Catholics (because of course God is present).

That lag time can cause some too falter and it doesn’t mean the person has to be undecided to falter. The Enemy is alive and well and looks for all sorts of openings.

I believe if someone expresses interest in converting, there should be some sort of support system in place, even if it means volunteers who will sort of “adopt” the person and check on them or invite them to parish events, special masses etc.

I would certainly volunteer for something like that.
 
It boggles my mind that there is not one available beginning directly after Easter. So, many people are interested at that time and reflecting. If it is a person who does not normally attend church, this is a huge roadblock as they are wanting and ready to learn and become involved. A few weeks pass and with no support classes, etc. It’s easy to see how they would end up with another denomination during a five month waiting period. Many people having busy work schedules, health issues, etc do not have the time or resources on their own. 😦
We do have to remember that most of the people who run the classes, act as sponsors, etc. are lay people and so do have other obligations (the same busy work schedules, health issues, etc, as those seeking to join).

To me this is a call to the ret of us to step up and assist. If we have a friend, family member, or co-worker who is expressing interest in the church, we need to bridge the gap until they are ready to enter formal RCIA - and then continue to support them during the process.

So, think about inviting a friend to attend Mass with you, lend them a book like “Home to Rome” and offer to read it with them, introduce them to things like the Divine Mercy chaplet. etc.
 
However, it saddens me and maybe that’s just because of my Protestant backgound, but there are many small things that could be done that would make a difference.
Have you started doing those things at your parish? Can you give more examples of what you mean? Many parishes do have Bible studies, presentations by various groups, and other things like that for folks to join even before they are official Catholics. However, the person asking has to do a little work too and not expect everything to be arranged for their convenience.
 
I’m a convert to Catholicism from evangelical Protestantism. (8 years 🙂 )

When the Holy Spirit leads someone into the True Church of Jesus Christ, He’s not going to let them get away. We’re not talking about someone deciding to re-do their living room, or buy a hybrid car, and then changing their mind. People who are sincere about Catholicism don’t allow a few months, or even a few years, to discourage them.

There is much historical precedent in the Church to waiting several years before converting to Catholicism. In the New Testament Church, the catechumens had two years of preparation before becoming Catholic. This was done to make SURE that they were sincere about their decision. They were not allowed to stay during the Liturgy of the Eucharist during the Mass, but only during the Liturgy of the Word. Nowadays, if someone was told that they were not allowed to stay during a portion of the Mass, they would be angry, because we aren’t used to being told, especially by a Church, that we CAN’T do something. We want everything right now!

Waiting for a few months or years is excellent discipline for many of us who have known very little spiritual discipline in the Protestant fellowships where we are taught to seek “instant gratification.”

Many non-Catholic Christians (not all) have been trained from their infancy to serve God on THEIR terms, not His. They expect instant gratification, or as they say, “We want to be FED.” The music has to be good, the pastor has to be a good speaker, the fellowship has to be friendly, the youth and children’s programs have to be excellent, etc. If things in the church don’t please him/her, the Christian walks, and goes off in search of another church where they can be “fed.” And then the cycle starts all over again.

We often talk about a “Name it and claim it Gospel.” Certainly there are many non-Catholic Christians who do not believe in that false Gospel, but none-the-less, many still get impatient with God and with their fellow Christians when they don’t “feel” that things are happening the way they think they should be happening.

Over my years in evangelical Protestant churches, I saw many “programs” that got started in response to the demand for action “right now,” and then fizzled out, leaving disillusioned people who often ended up drifting away from God. Oh, yes, of course there would be some prayer meetings for a few weeks or months so that we could “seek God’s perfect will,” and then we would say, “We’re ready! God is telling us to act right now,” and we would forge ahead, and within a year, the project would grind to a heartbreaking halt because it wasn’t really the right project or the right timing or God’s perfect will at all.

Now I want to add that NOT ALL Protestant denominations are so “instant.” E.g., in the Christian and Missionary Alliance, years of preparation are required before someone can become a missionary. The candidate has to complete four years of undergraduate school (college), earn a Master’s Degree (two more years), do a year of home service, and do a year of short-term missionary service on the field where they will be serving. This means that many of the candidates are almost 30 years old before they ever get to the mission field. BUT…the C and MA has a much better retention rate for overseas missionaries than other denominations or organizations that give their missionaries a shorter training period.

There is a lot to be said for taking our time and doing things in their proper timing, rather than trying to make things easier and take short-cuts.

Another major problem that many non-Catholic Christians have is a lack of ability to submit to any authority other than their own self. Yes, they say that they are submitting to God only, and hopefully that is true. But many non-Catholic Christians have no concept of submitting to a human authority established by God. This needs to change for a Christian who is joining the One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church. Catholic Christians submit to the Lord Jesus who has given authority here on earth to the Pope and the Bishops. It does not bode well when a seeker says, “I don’t want to submit to these men. I want to convert RIGHT NOW.” That attitude needs to go, and the prospective Catholic needs to learn humility and obedience.

Yes, we’re all incredibly busy here in the United States and yes, it would be great if we could do RCIA on our schedule rather than the Church’s schedule. But when it comes to joining the Catholic Church, we should not blame the Church for our own lack of fortitude.

Instead, we need to seek to cultivate this virtue in our lives. When told by the Catholic Church that we have to actually wait a few months or even a year, we should gird up our loins, continue attending Mass and making spiritual communions, learn as much as we can on our own (CAF is an excellent resource), make friends in the parish of our choice (if we would reach outside of our comfort zone and seek Catholic friends, we would learn that many people DO care about our conversion!), pray constantly, and grow in love for Jesus and our fellow Christians.
Completely quote worthy, an in- depth answer.:angel1::heaven::harp: Thank you Cat. I could not agree with you more and have observed so many of your examples to be true.
Blessings to you and all here.:blessyou::amen:
Kathryn Ann:harp::grouphug:
 
I’m in total agreement with Cat.

I was formerly from a “pentecostal church,” then a Methodist, where there were programs starting up every few weeks to “meet the needs” of everyone. *There was even a “coat check and welcome” ministry *in case anyone, for even a nanno -second, felt shy or awkward! All good people, all well intended, but I pray that we allow the Holy Spirit to truly initiate the Initiates into the very real experiences of bowing to the authority and wonder and awe -inspiring majesty of the One Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church founded by Christ Himself.

Yet people often prefer to rely on their own “zeal” :extrahappy: to the harder lessons of learning patience. My friend whom I just sponsored through RCIA this year did become interested in late spring of last year. She attended Mass with me ALL SUMMER and she was so excited to sign up for the RCIA classes and yet patiently anticipated September when the classes began. We had many talks in between. Yes, it’s ideal if you have someone early on in the process.
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However, *I did not know anyone at the parish when I began. I had to wait all summer myself and simply took the initiative to make an appointment with the priest and the D.R.E. to introduce myself. I experienced shyness and real humility. Good things for the soul! I walked into the coffee hour after Mass and introduced myself. Not always easy!

In the meantime, I read books all summer. At the time I entered, sponsors were hard to find, and I didn’t have an official one until after Christmas.:christmastree1: That’s not ideal, but I survived. I was also going through the process of a* Church annulment* at the same time! Talk about feeling “different and alone.” But I wasn’t! The Holy Spirit kept drawing me in. My own “zeal” had little to do with anything. I was learning patience and humility. Imagine, going through *scrutinies *and questioning oneself! It was a wonderful, learning experience.

I couldn’t agree more with Cat’s previous post. Many people are so used to things happening instantly that they find it hard to conform to a divinely ordained human authority. :highprayer:

While it would be ideal if each person had a close friend to guide them at every point, (and during long months of waiting,)*** the Mass itself, sitting and observing, praying:gopray2: and reflecting on the upcoming adventure are open to all. ***

One of the main reasons for having the long process begin at the time it does, and end at Easter, is a long held tradition. The Church prefers to baptize adults at Easter time, and as I mentioned before, all the work involved (both presenters and Initiates) falls into this pattern. Others who are already baptized (Candidates) have learned along with all the other people in RCIA. A poster on this forum is in charge of RCIA at her parish and points out all the planning and preparation, the volunteers and speakers needed.

*I will pray for these ideals, that each person connects early on with someone, and that everyone is genuinely friendly and aware of new people arriving and inquiring. And I’ll also pray that they join us in prayer at Mass however long the official classes have begun. The inner lessons are already at work through the Holy Spirit who has led that person to want to inquire. *

And the custom of telephoning the parish priest and introducing oneself is certainly a good way to begin. Wouldn’t you do that if interested in anything else? How much more important is this journey, this ancient Rite of of inquiring and entering The Church? 👋

The after-Mass coffee hour I found, is a good way to meet the people of the parish and let them know you’re going to be going through RCIA in the fall. Too shy for that? Sign up to help pass out the donuts and you’ll be surrounded by new friends, if that helps you feel less alone. ** But there is no comparison to allowing the Holy Spirit to work **through an initiate who is willing to submit to the divine authority of the Church, to reverently pray and observe the Mass while waiting for those classes to begin.

The quiet and most heavenly process has already begun within the heart, where Christ is there within us to help us through the journey.:heaven:

Kathryn Ann:heaven::harp:
 
I’m surprised that someone would be discouraged from going to adoration. :confused:
 
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