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bben15
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Incense cigarettes? Hmmmm, never heard of those before.Since our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, the only thing we should smoke is incense.
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fred_conty
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AnneElizabeth
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Clove Cigarettes? Maybe?Incense cigarettes? Hmmmm, never heard of those before.
Ever wonder how funny it is that cigarettes used to be thought of as being āsexyā and alluring? At one time it was the āthing to doā, then as years past there developed the consensus that is was for ābadā (wild) people only to do. Now a days, Iād have to say, it seems there is this hint of disgust with the mention that someone is a smoker. It seems to be something that is very much thought down upon. ā¦ Or maybe that is just my own personal observation.
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KrazyKat
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Agree, but look at the source of this disgust:Clove Cigarettes? Maybe?
Ever wonder how funny it is that cigarettes used to be thought of as being āsexyā and alluring? At one time it was the āthing to doā, then as years past there developed the consensus that is was for ābadā (wild) people only to do. Now a days, Iād have to say, it seems there is this hint of disgust with the mention that someone is a smoker. It seems to be something that is very much thought down upon. ā¦ Or maybe that is just my own personal observation.
Smoking out; Gay Marriage In; Abortion on Demand, Women Priests !!
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bben15
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Technically, Holy Orders cannot be conferred upon women. So it would be incorrect to call the members of the organization Roman Catholic Womenpriests āpriests.ā
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Bonnie
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Fashions in morals do change! And secular attitudes tend to be subjective & on many occasions, puritanical. People tend to believe that if someone else is doing something (smoking, eating meat, hunting, etc) it is a sin, but if I do it or approve of it (gay marriage, abortion, women priests) it is not a sin.
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AnneElizabeth
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Agreeā¦ Would that be what is called being swept up in the spirit of the age? Otherwise known as āworldlinessā? I would think that the closer one is to God the less influenced by the spirit of the age or worldliness they areā¦ Yet everyone is defined by the era they lived in regardless. I have heard too that in every era the Holy Spirit is working on something too, Iād assume, countering that agenda which Satan is trying to push.
I wouldnāt claim smoking as a sin, however I do put it in the category of ānear occasion of sinā because it has been found that it is not so good for oneās body and we are supposed to not abuse it. It takes a certain amount of denial of that truth to light one up and put it to your mouth. If you didnāt know it was unhealthy then it wouldnāt be such a possible sinā¦ My 93 year old grandmother smoked since she was 14, ate very healthy and took good care of herself otherwise. She was always healthy right up to the last 8 years of her life. Tobacco effects people differently. It depends on genes and lifestyle choices Iām sure.
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Bonnie
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One of my aunts was almost 90 when she died - but the cigarettes didnāt kill her - didnāt affect her health at all. The last time I saw her was at her 85th birthday party. She looked years younger and was very active. When I told her how good she looked, she smiled - rather smugly - and said, āAnd Iām still smoking!ā
Me, on the other hand, had problems for the last 10 years or so that I smoked - chronic cough, lots of colds, stomach ulcers. But I kept smoking for 2 reasons - I was addicted and smoking kept me slim (every time I had quit for more than a month I had gained weight).
I am now a fat non-smoker (about 21 years tobacco free!) but Iām getting my diet under control. In the last couple of years Iāve lost 75 pounds - just 40 more to go!
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Robert_Sock
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If you know itās causing harm to your body, then itās a sin to do it.
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PennyinCanada
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A hundred years ago when I was single and in my 20ās 
I went with a group of friends to Hawaii for 2 weeks. 6 of us shared the accommodations and we had a great trip. When I set up the trip, my mother, a smoker, complained how much money I was about to blow on a 2 week trip to Hawaii. It got me thinking. I calculated how much she spent on cigarettes a month times 12 and found out that she was spending a bit more, per year, on cigarettes than I was on my trip to Hawaii. Isnāt that shocking?
Letās say a 2 parent family had one smoker. If one parent said that they worked hard all year and every winter they were going with friends to Hawaii, regardless of what other expenses and sacrifices were done throughout the year, how would that go over? Yet parents do smoke and that money goes up āin smokeā, regardless of expenses through the year. I found with my motherās addictions, that her addiction money never got touched, you can be sure! Other expenses would have to wait. It seems like quite an exercise in selfishness.
Is it a sin? We all will come before God to give an account for our lives, for what we have done, and what we failed to do. It should make one shiver. Smoking certainly is an exercise in selfishness and addiction. (When we have that first cigarette, we have no idea if we will become addicted. Saying āonce in a while wonāt hurtā is flirting with disaster, like driving drunk, it doesnāt kill everybody.) If only we would be so determined to employ our talents to good rather than to what would hurt us and others, we would become saints.
I went with a group of friends to Hawaii for 2 weeks. 6 of us shared the accommodations and we had a great trip. When I set up the trip, my mother, a smoker, complained how much money I was about to blow on a 2 week trip to Hawaii. It got me thinking. I calculated how much she spent on cigarettes a month times 12 and found out that she was spending a bit more, per year, on cigarettes than I was on my trip to Hawaii. Isnāt that shocking?Letās say a 2 parent family had one smoker. If one parent said that they worked hard all year and every winter they were going with friends to Hawaii, regardless of what other expenses and sacrifices were done throughout the year, how would that go over? Yet parents do smoke and that money goes up āin smokeā, regardless of expenses through the year. I found with my motherās addictions, that her addiction money never got touched, you can be sure! Other expenses would have to wait. It seems like quite an exercise in selfishness.
Is it a sin? We all will come before God to give an account for our lives, for what we have done, and what we failed to do. It should make one shiver. Smoking certainly is an exercise in selfishness and addiction. (When we have that first cigarette, we have no idea if we will become addicted. Saying āonce in a while wonāt hurtā is flirting with disaster, like driving drunk, it doesnāt kill everybody.) If only we would be so determined to employ our talents to good rather than to what would hurt us and others, we would become saints.
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mexolic
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Iāve heard it mentioned that people who smoke hold onto anger and resentment. If that is true, then the reasons for smoking (unforgiveness) would be sinful.
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KrazyKat
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Congratulations Bonnie !One of my aunts was almost 90 when she died - but the cigarettes didnāt kill her - didnāt affect her health at all. The last time I saw her was at her 85th birthday party. She looked years younger and was very active. When I told her how good she looked, she smiled - rather smugly - and said, āAnd Iām still smoking!ā
Me, on the other hand, had problems for the last 10 years or so that I smoked - chronic cough, lots of colds, stomach ulcers. But I kept smoking for 2 reasons - I was addicted and smoking kept me slim (every time I had quit for more than a month I had gained weight).
I am now a fat non-smoker (about 21 years tobacco free!) but Iām getting my diet under control. In the last couple of years Iāve lost 75 pounds - just 40 more to go!
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NovusAugustus
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Your argument that Satan wants us to die does not follow. Satan only wants us to die if we die and then join him in eternal suffering. Merely doing things which might cause our death doesnāt particularly bother God or the Enemyāitās the state of our soul (and where weāre headed after we die) that counts.
Another facet of this issue is intriguing to consider when we talk about how our societies perceive smoking. If smoking causes common disgust among most people, then it could be that publicly might give rise to scandal and ruin any positive perception of a Catholic smokerās morals and good works. Thus, if a Catholic chooses to smoke, he should be certain to keep control of the pleasure and also try to smoke mostly in private or in front of people who arenāt bothered by it.
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fred_conty
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ehow.com/about_6591127_effect-secondary-smoking-platelet-count.html
Inhaled secondary smoke includes the same toxic chemicals that are inhaled by smokers, including more than 60 chemical compounds which are known human carcinogens, or cancer-causing agents.
ehow.com/info_8389426_physical-effects-cigarette.html
Cigarette smoking has a detrimental long-term and short-term impact on health. The impact of the ingestion of nicotine can be seen on all major organ systems of the body. ā¦
Moreover, secondhand smoke is the cause of roughly 50,000 deaths per year. The devastation to the body and to the economy is serious.
Inhaled secondary smoke includes the same toxic chemicals that are inhaled by smokers, including more than 60 chemical compounds which are known human carcinogens, or cancer-causing agents.
ehow.com/info_8389426_physical-effects-cigarette.html
Cigarette smoking has a detrimental long-term and short-term impact on health. The impact of the ingestion of nicotine can be seen on all major organ systems of the body. ā¦
Moreover, secondhand smoke is the cause of roughly 50,000 deaths per year. The devastation to the body and to the economy is serious.
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KrazyKat
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Smoking is not a sin ! ā¦but we can, through reasoning ,lead anything we do into it being a sin. From putting on fake fingernails, to starting the engine of your car, to turning on your furnace because you are coldā¦and now we find out how much arsenic we have been poisoning our children with by giving them orange juice.
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PennyinCanada
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I respectfully disagree. Would you like to explain how putting on fake fingernails, starting your car or turning on your furnace is a sin?
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KrazyKat
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Do not think we should go there, could turn posts into a forever thing. The chemicals used, the pollution you put into the environment every time you do any of these actions, you are poisoning us all. The money wasted on makeup that could be given to feed the hungry all for the sake of vanity, the trips to the ābeauty salonāā it is not sin?? All is vanity except to love The Lord and Him alone to serve. Anyone who says they are without sin is a liar. But it so much easier to point out the speck in someone elseās eye than remove the log that is in your own.
ā¦and on, and onā¦this is just the tip of the iceberg.
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NovusAugustus
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Would you like to explain how smoking tobacco is a sin? No one here has adequately explained that one yet.
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PennyinCanada
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In post #7 and 30. If that wasnāt adequate, that fine.
I grew up with a parent with addictions and knew what it was like to live with them. To stay sober and clean is a gift I give myself and my family. Itās hard for me to hear a rationalization that voluntarily taking on an addiction doesnāt involve our sinful human nature. Itās a choice we do with our own free will (itās not forced on us) and itās a bad one.
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KrazyKat
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Smoking is not a sin !!!
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