Why is the Catholic Church hated so much?

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I have come across this general sentiment of hostility from a variety of people- I’m sure that every Catholic must have. Now I know that there are as many reasons and angles to this as there are groups of people out there.

Please share charitably. Why? 🤷
 
I believe, in a word, chastity. Our world is replete with messages that lead one to believe sexual sin is okay; well, it’s not. When I was growing up, this is the first thing I learned in church. It started with Adam and Eve: Once they realized they had sinned, they were ashamed (of their nudity). Correct me if I’m wrong. Nowadays, in some cities, I won’t mention any names, but the initials are S.F., you can find people out in public…IN THE NUDE:blush:! How disordered is that? You want to solve STD’s? Abstinence. You want to solve adultery? Abstinence. You want to solve…abortion? Abstinence. (In our society) you want to be ostracized? Abstinence. How do I know? I’m celibate.:o Oh, one more thing…so was Jesus.:cool:
 
i have the same problem as a person in rcia seeking to join the church i have come under attack from former ‘friends’ and even teachers from my old school it was baptist. I have graduated tho but when i told my grandma the woman who is the lady who raised me that i am joining the church she said shed rather die and that God would taker her before making her see me join the catholic church. I know how you feel and i look at it like this the world and people in the wrong will hate Gods Church i just pray that God will have mercy on there souls by the way if anything i just posted is wrong let me know
 
Marybeloved said:
I have come across this general sentiment of hostility from a variety of people- I’m sure that every Catholic must have. Now I know that there are as many reasons and angles to this as there are groups of people out there.

Please share charitably. Why? 🤷
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Protestant Churches are easy going. If you do not like one you change. If you like none, you create one.
Muslims are like Catholics: it is either them or us.
So, youv’e got it all.
Mao Tse Tung said: “It is good to have enemies. You know where your frontiers are.”
If you are a Catholic, do not try to get friends, try to find so that people love Jesus, not that they love you.
In the end, they will come to appreciate more than if you go the whim of desires.
 
I think since the Protestant Reformation the space between the Universal Church and other churches has grown so much that distrust and mis-information have prevailed. I wonder how it could be if those protestant brothers and sisters in Christ, came to the truth about some of those things, would the differences…make a difference anymore?

Would they cling to the scripture that was developed over 300 years and finally came together in what we call “the Bible” that was taught by this first church?

Would they really understand we were one church for one and a half milleniums (1500+ years) and then we started splitting up (and have been splintering off ever since)?

It’s sad.

My father was going through RCIA before they got married and his mother (Baptist) told him she wouldn’t have anything to do with him if he became “one of those cat-lickers”.

He respected her wishes and still has no church. He is a good man. A natural good-samaritan. I hope someday he will find the courage to come back to the process he started long ago and finally enter the church. His mother is dead and gone so maybe eventually he can. I hope.

I have often wondered if she made it to Heaven and if she did, does she regret her actions now?

My sibling has fallen away from the church. (we were raised Catholic) and I have encouraged them to find something. I would rather them keep hearing about God in the one, catholic and apostolic church, but If they can’t, then at least find a christian denomination to find a home. Everyone NEEDS faith. I can’t imagine life without it.

Peace.
 
Its the Truth, a Truth that satan cannot stand. Empire’s, temperal rulers, heresy, will come and go. The Mystical Body of Christ will prevail.

Many believe we are still in the period granted to satan by Christ as a time of testing. Which is also why we hear Pope Benedict clearly state Fatima is not over yet. Or his 2010 homily May 13th at Fatima. All indications of the trials of this particular decade.

The most common theme with satan is taking his thoughts and replacing them with yours by using the word “I”. I think Catholics are this or that. I think the Pope is this or that. I think its OK to give myself permission to break this little law of Gods…etc etc.

You hear Southern Baptists calling the Catholic Church a Cult of Babylon, for example. While 1.3 million of the 3-million Free Masons in the USA are Southern Baptists. 🤷

However point being there’s a conflict in the mind constantly between good and evil. And not always a conscious one. One may completely believe they are following God, while traveling a path a destruction. Which this becomes a practice of self awareness of how the Lord works through you. And how evil works through you. Pride made Angels into demons, and humility make’s mankind into Saints.

Surely “I” don’t have to go to church “every” week.🤷 Surely the obediance of the Mystical Body is constantly tested.

“We always find that those whom walk closest to Jesus, bear the most trails” St Thesesa of Jesus

So the it being the Church which in truth is the Holy Spirit as the Mystical Body not a building, is the you as the suffering servant whom Christ lives through. As you are the Church thus you to feel what Christ felt as a human. There to then is the strength to persevere, since the myteries of the Lord reach a depth of humility as God, which man could never fully comprehend, thus to then his Love could never fully be understood by man. So then the bridge between a consistant relationship with the Christ in you, becomes the renewal by crossing the bridge of, and to His Church constantly, the Mystical Body of Christ. So then the one of the two are of the same when understood correctly. LIfe and Love, giving Life and Love which then spreads Life and Love.

If within this realm stands contempt, of even so called enemies, then there is a misunderstanding in the Lord and His church.

Comes back around to what was talked about on the other thread with Apostolic Succession. Many talk the talk, yet walk the walk to the place where the poor and needy live. Give love for there is no other purpose of love but to give it. Not because it makes one feel good, but because its right to descend in love, for you are those people. If feeling good becomes a result of this, then its correctly understood, then there resides the Lords grace.

This is the communication of mankind, which need not even be verbal, non-verbal may very well suffice much better. Mans words and thinking produce lofty ideas to the tune of a War every 2.5 years in the history of mankind. Perhaps man should become dumb. and learn how to start actually caring for one another.

But…what do I know:shrug:

Grace and Peace.
 
Marybeloved said:
I have come across this general sentiment of hostility from a variety of people- I’m sure that every Catholic must have. Now I know that there are as many reasons and angles to this as there are groups of people out there.

Please share charitably. Why? 🤷
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Jesus said “consider yourselves blessed when other people revile and hate you because of me.” 🙂

The Catholic church is the true church of God. Jesus established it with Peter and gave him the “keys” and said “hell shall not prevail against it”. And it never has, the Catholic church has been here for over 2,000 years! How long have any of the “protestant” churches been here?

Don’t worry about other non-christian religions, they are coming from a completely different viewpoint and it is not Christian.
 
Gary Taylor got it right, in my opinion.

The Truth is always hated.
Christ was hated because He was the Truth. No servant is above his Master. We shall be hated. Nobody wants to hear the Truth.
 
I don’t think the Church itself is hated.The number of people who call themselves catholic is growing all the time.

There are men in the heirarchy who have been guilty of sins that have caused revulsion in many. Also, the Church’s active involvement in secular politics has brought it into the temporal world and it has become subject to the slings and arrows that await anyone who joins that fracas.
 
Marybeloved said:
I have come across this general sentiment of hostility from a variety of people- I’m sure that every Catholic must have. Now I know that there are as many reasons and angles to this as there are groups of people out there.

Please share charitably. Why? 🤷
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Hey, Marybeloved!

I will never offer a defense of “uncharitable” actions toward the RCC even if I happen to disagree with her doctrine in some fundamental ways. I am in favor of respectful and sometimes spirited disagreement rather than attacks.

Respectfully, then, I offer my opinion that there are three contributing factors to animosity toward the RCC:
  1. The church stands for something over and against the post-modern, relativistic society we live in (United States). In general, people hate to be told their behavior is wrong let alone sinful. Any time you have a person or institution stand against the culture there will be trouble. Count on it.
  2. People have had bad experiences with the RCC. They range from the illegal/immoral to something like my own experience–growing up in a RCC environment–church, school, altar boy, the whole nine yards–that was dead, just going through the motions. I must be clear: These kinds of things are not limited to the RCC. There are plenty of Protestant ministers in the news and Protestant adherents going through the motions. Because of her sheer size, however, there is a rather large population of people out there that fall into this category for the RCC. Bad experiences lead to bad feelings.
  3. Theological issues. Many have examined the history, claims, and doctrine of the RCC and found them lacking. Many others have performed the same examination and claim the opposite–that the RCC has it right and it’s those silly Protestants who are lacking. For the purposes of answering your question, it is not necessary to take a side. I think we must acknowledge the fact that there are really smart people on both sides making contradictory claims. Contradictory claims on the most important issues in the universe are bound to lead to hard feelings and worse.
The key here is that these are life-and-death issues. We aren’t arguing about taxes or how to fix public education and health care. Debate over those secular issues can get quite heated. It is no wonder issues of eternity create passionate response!
 
Plain and simple,

Because Lucifer and all the demons know that the Catholic Church is the One, True church and Christ intended to exist after His ascension into heaven and of which He left Peter as it’s first Pope…264 popes later to Pope Benedict XVI. And the gates of hell have not and will not prevail against her.

Lucifer and all the fallen angels have the task of influencing and directing the minds of it’s enemies against the One, True Catholic Church.

If you are a protestant Christian church…you would be very well advised to either come home soon or stick close to the Flag Ship Catholic Church of St. John Bosco’s visions.
 
NewsTheMan said:
Gary Taylor got it right, in my opinion.

The Truth is always hated.
Christ was hated because He was the Truth. No servant is above his Master. We shall be hated. Nobody wants to hear the Truth.
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Sometimes when we hear the Truth, it hurts and can be painful. In this case; no pain - no gain. 😉
 
Wendy1989 said:
Sometimes when we hear the Truth, it hurts and can be painful. In this case; no pain - no gain. 😉
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Agreed. The Church has definite positions regarding right and wrong and regarding its authority to teach. That is often not a welcome message in a world increasingly given to a relativism that teaches that anything one wants to do is okay.
 
OriginalJS said:
I don’t think the Church itself is hated.The number of people who call themselves catholic is growing all the time.

There are men in the heirarchy who have been guilty of sins that have caused revulsion in many. Also, the Church’s active involvement in secular politics has brought it into the temporal world and it has become subject to the slings and arrows that await anyone who joins that fracas.
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It’s Politics that has gotten into the church’s business, not the other way around.

They hate her because she refused to follow the Anglicans and others in proclaiming sin to be acceptable because of the influence of the modernist era! When the West went into the sexual revolution, the societal values were turned upside down, and many succumbed. The church refused and has continued to preach the same message of morality that she preached before the modernist secular-humanist perspective took over the west and the countries modeled after it.

The church has always preached the same message. The difference now is that the society demands that the church conform and she won’t. 🤷
 
People hate the Catholic Church for the same reason people hated Christ. And, the Catholic Church is the Mystical Body of Christ. Christ and His Church are inseparably one. Hate the Church, you hate Christ.

People hate Christ because, among other things, He is the Truth, and they are not living within the truth. They can either change and start living the truth (hard!). Or fight against the Truth. They choose the seemingly easier path, of fighting against the Truth.
 
I grew up in a small, Southern town. I heard a lot of misconceptions. Certainly there have been some high profile Catholics who have been vilified.

I always heard that if you have enough money as a Catholic you can have your marriage annulled, which gets taken as a convenient way of saying the marriage never happened. People quote Scripture to argue Catholicism is wrong for allowing priests to be called “Father” or to have intercessory prayer, etc. Catholics “worship” Mary and priests are gay or pedophiles. Catholics worship idols and pray to saints. Catholics aren’t “Bible Christians” and go more from their own mythology…

These are just some arguments my grandmother had for her dislike of the Church. I think it boils down to ignorance and xenophobia. And of course, “If Catholics happen to be right, that means…” :eek:
 
I am not sure if “Hated” is the right word, misunderstood maybe. A lot of the misunderstandings over Catholicism in my mind stem from other christian secs preaching negativity toward Catholicism. Children’s minds and faith are usually strong. They understand what they are taught and if they are preached to that Catholicism is not the path to god and fed negativity toward the Church and never look at Catholicism with an open mind they will always believe what they were taught.

I think other religions hate the church because of millenniums of warfare and resentment. Islamic religions believe what they believe and sometimes spread their word with hostilities, which caused Catholicism to declare war on them for their aggressions during the crusades. To this day, we all co exist with resentment and hostilities toward one another when there is good and bad in nearly every religion worldwide. People just need to let bygones be bygones and love and respect each other.
 
In my experience, those Jews–not the majority, but not an insignificant number either–who hate or distrust Christianity don’t draw too much distinction between the Catholic Church, Protestant denominations, and other Christian religions. If anything, Catholicism is less distrusted than Evangelical Protestantism. The hatred, fear, or suspicion is, in almost all cases, based on a combination of historical, present-day–and sometimes personal–real, as well as perceived, antisemitism, along with a heavy dose of ignorance regarding the doctrines and teachings of Catholicism. I must also state that the majority of religious and not-so-religious Jews are too busy practicing their own faith and leading their own lives to preoccupy themselves with this kind of thinking. Going back to my childhood, having attended a Traditional Orthodox (non-Hasidic) Hebrew School, I can recall the topic of Christianity and Jesus Christ being mentioned by the Rabbi only once, in response to a question by a student. And the Rabbi’s response was favorable. I can’t vouch for what may be taught to children today in Hebrew schools and in Jewish homes regarding Christianity, if anything at all; only that there was virtually no anti-Christian sentiment in my own upbringing.
 
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