Why is the US Catholic church so obsessed with the gay issue?

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Several Catholic organizations in the US seem to be uncomfortably and awkwardly preoccupied with gay issues. Catholic Answers Live, a radio show I love, sometimes has specific shows dedicated to same-sex marriage or homosexuality. I just switched on EWTN on my TV and the show was talking about the “militant homosexual agenda.” Catholic bloggers and articles are always dedicating topics on this issue; everytime I go to NewAdvent.org, there is a good chance I’ll see a highlighted article casting the issue in a severe light.

My question is, what is this emphasis on this issue meant to achieve? Is it supposed to help those gay persons who are already struggling to find a place in the Church? Is it supposed to convince the “militant homosexual” activists? Is it supposed to reach out to those in the Church and the world who disagree with church teaching and accept homosexual relationships? Or is it supposed to comfort those who already agree with church teaching?

Maybe I am just sensitive. But I do not see the point with this over-emphasis. I could see how such a preoccupation would turn away those from the Church, as it is making me really disappointed with the USA church’s outreach to those on the fringes.
 
I dont know, but I wonder if it would have came to this if they would have concentrated on premarital sex, remarriage, cohabitation and all that when it was fresh and new. Now it’s like putting the horse back in the barn. Plus their not addressing all these other issues so it looks like their discriminating against gays and lesbians. But the truth is, the same rules apply to everyone.
 
Well, considering that gay “marriage” advocates are trying to teach kindergartners about sex, insist on having Christian bakers and florists do business with gay weddings all while acting innocent with “how does it affect you?” and “what impact does it have on your straight marriage”, you can kind of see why they’d be talking about it.

So it isn’t so much the US Catholic Church is obsessed with it as it they are responding to gay “marriage” advocates, many of whom are straight, who are the ones consumed by the issue for their own selfish, nefarious purposes. :yup:

I’m sure that gay “marriage” advocates would love for everyone to shut-up and agree with them, but that isn’t going to happen.
 
Rence said:
I dont know, but I wonder if it would have came to this if they would have concentrated on premarital sex, remarriage, cohabitation and all that when it was fresh and new. Now it’s like putting the horse back in the barn. Plus their not addressing all these other issues so it looks like their discriminating against gays and lesbians. But the truth is, the same rules apply to everyone.
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The Church addresses a broad array of issues. I think people just want us to be quiet about so-called gay “marriage” and conform.

Of course, that is not going to happen.
 
SuperLuigi said:
The Church addresses a broad array of issues. I think people just want us to be quiet about so-called gay “marriage” and conform.

Of course, that is not going to happen.
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No, I do think there is a lack of balance here. I do not mean to pick out the radio show because, like I said, I do really enjoy Catholic Answers Live. But, to make a point, one never sees this show dedicating entire shows to fornication or adultery or the like. Homosexuality, Same-sex marriage, etc. is overwhelmingly the concentration.

And yes, there may be religious liberty issues at stake in the country. But once again, the issue is obsessed over and overblown; and as I mentioned, it is not just the gay marriage issue, but the broader “gay issue” – talking about the sinfulness of homosexuality, etc.

I counted nearly one-third of the articles on NewAdvent just now focusing on the issue.
 
=catholic1seeks;13100450]No, I do think there is a lack of balance here. I do not mean to pick out the radio show because, like I said, I do really enjoy Catholic Answers Live. But, to make a point, one never sees this show dedicating entire shows to fornication or adultery or the like. Homosexuality, Same-sex marriage, etc. is overwhelmingly the concentration.
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When’s the last time a fornicator or adulterer wanted their behaviors taught to 6 year olds, had a pride parade or sued a bakery for being religious?

Feedback is good in the marketplace. It’s also worth noting that gay “marriage” advocates say the same kind of things to try and silence us.
And yes, there may be religious liberty issues at stake in the country.
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May be? There clearly are.
But once again, the issue is obsessed over and overblown; and as I mentioned, it is not just the gay marriage issue, but the broader “gay issue” – talking about the sinfulness of homosexuality, etc.
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I don’t listen to CA Live, but I don’t think the issue in general is overblown. People who disagree with so-called gay “marriage” are responding to the massive secular propaganda machine.
I counted nearly one-third of the articles on NewAdvent just now focusing on the issue.
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This isn’t New Advent. Besides, they are a private website.
 
With the recent court ruling, are you really surprised that it is the hot topic?
 
There’s always a reaction to big events. Do you not remember the anxiety after 9-11?
It s predicable and natural response.
The Church has always responded to such things, and non-believers have always pooh-poohed them.

It’s not a matter of balance. It’s about the truth of the Gospels and the teaching of Christ and the Church He founded.
The scales do, and should, tip in His favor.

Peace.
 
Why is the US Catholic church so obsessed with the gay issue?

It should be obvious.

The whole gay marriage issue is a direct mockery of the Catholic institution of Marriage as well as our 2000 years of tradition and teaching.
 
It’s a hot button issue ATM so we shouldn’t be surprised. And yes while I don’t see how civil SSM to be incompatible with religious liberty etc (and I have misgivings about the scope of the ruling) - its something that strikes at the heart of what the Church teaches. Of course there is going to be a lot of discussion

That said, the rather cynical part of me says there’s also a bit of (unconscious) misdirection - much easier to rail about gay marriage than to talk about the stuff the Holy Father has unequivocally indicated he hopes we talk about…
 
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And yes, there may be religious liberty issues at stake in the country. But once again, the issue is obsessed over and overblown; …
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There’s your answer.
I wouldn’t call it obsessing and overblowing the problem
when our religious…and other…freedoms are at stake.
Code: 
 We have a crisis in this country in
the form of a Supreme Court who has overstepped its bounds.
The same-sex marriage decision was merely a product of that.

There will be more decisions to come which defy the Constitution
if people don’t sit up and notice
what the Supreme Court is up to.
Thank God Americans are waking up, I say.
 
catholic1seeks said:
No, I do think there is a lack of balance here. I do not mean to pick out the radio show because, like I said, I do really enjoy Catholic Answers Live. But, to make a point, one never sees this show dedicating entire shows to fornication or adultery or the like. Homosexuality, Same-sex marriage, etc. is overwhelmingly the concentration.

And yes, there may be religious liberty issues at stake in the country. But once again, the issue is obsessed over and overblown; and as I mentioned, it is not just the gay marriage issue, but the broader “gay issue” – talking about the sinfulness of homosexuality, etc.

I counted nearly one-third of the articles on NewAdvent just now focusing on the issue.
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Well, one of the reasons NewAdvent and Catholic Answers is occupied with homosexuality right now is the recent Supreme Court decision.

Many people also commonly justify their departure from the Faith on issues such as homosexuality and contraception, which is why they come up often on apologetics websites.

Very few people in our culture would argue that adultery is justifiable. Although they might do it, they will try and hide it. As a result, there is no need really to rationally bring it up, just as there is no need for Catholic Answers to have to focus on defending “thou shall not steal.” No one disagrees that its wrong (except for many in the Media apparently), and no one goes around in “Adulterer Pride” movements. LGBT (which is not representatives of homosexuals, but a certain group of homosexuals with a certain viewpoint on it), on the other hand, proudly (literally. They do use the term “Pride” to describe their parades) wear their sin. Even fornicators won’t go around and march in parades. Regarding fornication, priests in youth groups do often deal with this issue “too much” as well.

There may be a deeper reason: those who fight for gay “marriage” are in part motivated by a hatred of Christianity. We Catholics subconsciously pick up on it and feel we have to defend against this in order to defend our entire religion. We also feel a dissatisfaction that our culture, which has been deeply Christian for a thousand years, is now violently rejecting it.

In my opinion, the first public issue Catholics should obsess over is the slaughter of 40 million infants each year :mad: Compared to this, homosexuality is practically nothing. Civil marriage will never be Sacramental marriage, period, but no one can tolerate abortion (unless it gets in the way of your “sexy time” apparently :mad: ). If I had to choose between no gay “marriage” with abortion or no abortion with gay “marriage,” I (and I think many here) will choose the second option every time.

Christi pax,

Lucretius
 
Zoltan_Cobalt said:
Why is the US Catholic church so obsessed with the gay issue?

It should be obvious.

The whole gay marriage issue is a direct mockery of the Catholic institution of Marriage as well as our 2000 years of tradition and teaching.
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So some gay people want to marry so that they can mock Catholics? :rolleyes:
 
Lucretius said:
No one can deny that many gay “marriage” advocates have a hatred for Christianity.

Christi pax,

Lucretius
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Some of the noisy ones anyway.

Plenty of advocates far from hating Christianity are Christians themselves (and no, one understanding of a civil institution is not a fundamental tenet of our faith…what constitutes a saxramentt is a different matter)
 
Lucretius said:
No one can deny that many gay “marriage” advocates have a hatred for Christianity.

Christi pax,

Lucretius
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There are also many advocates of the right of gay people to marry who are Christians. The Episcopal Church just voted to allow its clergy to perform same-sex marriages and my own denomination, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, also allows it’s pastors to marry same-sex couples.
 
Well, it’s only been a week since the Supreme Court dropped the latest bombshell upon the American people - including and particularly Catholics. And it’s concerning a lot of people. And this was hardly the tip of the iceberg

It doesn’t shock me so much that CAL and other Catholic and Christian groups would respond to this “obsessively”. It’s a big question of our time.

Consider it this way. It’s just like the Arian heresy of the 300s. “Every” great saint was writing against this heretic priest and his disrespectful degradation of the Son and the Holy Spirit. Athanasius contra mundum, Ambrose, John Chrysostom. You name anyone who lived or died around Nicaea I, and they probably wrote something about Arianism. And you can bet the Saints wrote against it, and governments supported it.

It’s just the new Arianism.The new monophysitism. The new iconoclasm. The new Protestantism. Be ye not scandalised. These things come and go.
 
Murmurs said:
Some of the noisy ones anyway.

Plenty of advocates far from hating Christianity are Christians themselves (and no, one understanding of a civil institution is not a fundamental tenet of our faith…what constitutes a saxramentt is a different matter)
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But I think those people have different reasons. They think that in order to love your neighbor, they have to accept their neighbor.

The gay movement is in itself motivated by the Christian pity for the “little guy,” so when publically, homosexuals are painted as poor, suppressed minorities, it is very easy to see, especially in America with the race minority issue, why Christians would abandon the “clear wording of Scripture” for the fads of the times.

If you talk to these Christians, often they will say that they are against homosexuality, but in a secular state, such religious thinking is not to become law. They have put tolerance above reason and goodness 😦

Christi pax,

Lucretius
 
Thorolfr said:
So some gay people want to marry so that they can mock Catholics? :rolleyes:
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Youve made a point here. Some Catholics find that things like this feed a paranoia or deeply rooted insecurity. Nobody is going to force the Catholic Church or any straight person to marry anybody. Relax.
 
Zoltan_Cobalt said:
Why is the US Catholic church so obsessed with the gay issue?

It should be obvious.

The whole gay marriage issue is a direct mockery of the Catholic institution of Marriage as well as our 2000 years of tradition and teaching.
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Not everyone is Catholic.
 
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