Why is voting for Biden a mortal sin?

  • Thread starter Thread starter zeland
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
Voters will be able to look our kids in the eyes if we do what we can to save our kids’ future and the future of this country: VOTE.

If the socialists and Marxists take over, it wouldn’t be long before we don’t even recognize the country.
 
Last edited:
So you would vote for someone’s personality over the whole party platform they are behind, which is the VISION of how the country will be with them in charge? The laws they will support, what they plan to change, etc? If so then wow!
 
To answer the main question:

Voting for Biden could be a mortal sin if one does not have a proportionate reason for materially cooperating with the grave evils of abortion, embryonic stem cell research, and the persecution of nuns, religious, etc.

Chiefly, abortion though. When one is considering abortion while voting, one must take into account the Church teaching. The Church teaches that abortion is the murder of an innocent human being. There are about 600,000 abortions in the United States every year. So abortion is a legal genocide on a large scale. “I don’t like Trump” or “Trump said mean things” or “I think Trump is a bad President” are not proportionate reasons for supporting a candidate who not only supports legalized abortion, but wants to subsidize it with government funds. If Biden had the same policy positions, but wanted abortion to be illegal, and instead wanted 600,000 black people to be able to be legally slaughtered every year and for the government to subsidize that choice, would your answer change? If it would, then it seems your vote goes against Catholic teaching, and your vote would be sinful, potentially mortal because of the gravity of abortion.
 
Yes I would in some circumstances. In others, the issues are more important.

It is all in proportion to the actual harm or good taking place. If a candidate has a bad stance but no ability to enact it I am less worried. If they have good ideas but no sincerity to carry them out, then I am skeptical of them. The personal competence and the issue stances need to be taken together in balance.
 
Last edited:
It goes way beyond just Biden/Harris’ pro-choice and anti-religious liberty actions that would occur if they win:


(hat-tip @Cathoholic )

We’re really going to let kids make a life-changing decision like that at 8-years old? If you think so, you’ll change your mind after watching “A Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing 2, the Gender Agenda”:
40.png
"A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing 2:The Gender Agenda" premiers tonight on EWTN Catholic News
[A WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING 2 - TEASER TRAILER W/ TAIL ADS] TONIGHT, Wednesday October 7 ON EWTN This film will change history. Not suitable for small children. 10 pm Eastern, 7 pm Pacific Time. Don’t miss this important event! Live stream here !
Click to expand...
(hat-tip @Dr_Meinheimer)
 
Last edited:
stmax . . .
Presidents enjoy very little legislative authority in our system but a lot of authority in foreign policy and immigration. We should weigh our issue stances by what the actual possibilities of the system are.
Click to expand...
You understand ObamaCare legislation was crafted in large part by the Obama administration
(but admittedly introduced by Democrats in Congess)
right?
 
Last edited:
Yes I do. His campaigning on the topic certainly helped some of those senators get elected as well.

That being said though, The bill passed the senate with 60 votes, none of which came from the president. Four years later, Trump didn’t have sufficient influence to overturn the ACA even with his party being in the majority.
 
stmax said:
It is all in proportion to the actual harm or good taking place. If a candidate has a bad stance but no ability to enact it I am less worried. If they have good ideas but no sincerity to carry them out, then I am skeptical of them.
Click to expand...
This is why I am voting for DJT again, he’s one of the few presidents I’ve seen that actually follow through on what they say the will do. As for bad or immoral stances, the left has been able to follow through in a lot of that over the past 10 years or so. I would worry if they get voted in.
 
Can anybody name 2 or 3 things that Joe Biden has done in his 43 years in politics that most helped Americans?

Or, one thing?
 
Reviving Our Economy
  • as Vice President, oversaw implementation of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009, then the biggest economic recovery plan in our country’s history. helped rebuild the American economy and save the American auto industry, lifting us out of the Great Recession
  • brokered Senate negotiations between Democrats and Republicans to pass the Budget Control Act of 2011 and avert a federal government shutdown
  • led a review in 2014 of federal employment and training programs that reach more than 21 million people per year, retooling $1.5 billion in grants to align with job-driven training best practices
Expanding Access to Healthcare
  • helped pass Obamacare (Affordable Care Act), guaranteeing health coverage for Americans with pre-existing conditions and 20 million who were previously uninsured
  • helped launch a “Cancer Moonshot” initiative in 2016 to accelerate efforts to prevent, diagnose and treat cancer
Advancing Women’s Rights and Gender Equity
  • sponsored the original Violence Against Women Act in 1994, leading to a major decline in intimate partner violence, from 2.1 million victims in 1994 to 907,000 in 2010
  • oversaw the confirmation of Ruth Bader Ginsburg as the second woman in the history of the Supreme Court in 1993
  • as chair of an all-male Senate Judiciary Committee, advocated the addition of Senators Dianne Feinstein and Carol Moseley Braun
Climate Change
  • cosponsored proposed legislation to curb greenhouse gas emissions in 2007
  • called for American participation in UN climate negotiations in 2005
  • introduced one of the Senate’s first climate change bills, in 1986, leading to the creation of a task force on global warming
  • utilized his experience working across the aisle to establish a pragmatic plan to cut carbon emissions and secure a sustainable future (click here to read more)
  • oversaw dispersement of $90 billion for clean energy as part of the 2009 Recovery Act. solar power increased 20x between the years 2008 and 2016
Promoting Peace and Security
  • secured the passage of arms limitation agreements in 1979 between the United States and the Soviet Union, reducing the risk of global nuclear disaster
  • advocated for economic sanctions against South Africa’s apartheid government
  • pushed for U.S. intervention in the Yugoslav Wars of the 1990s, ending ethnic cleansing and bringing peace to the region
  • supported expanding NATO to include Warsaw Pact nations Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic, advancing the cause of an undivided, democratic and peaceful Europe
 
Protecting our children
  • served as primary sponsor of the PROTECT Our Children Act of 2008, helping law enforcement agencies to investigate and prosecute child predators
  • sponsored and introduced the Criminal History Background Checks Pilot Extension Act of 2008, allowing volunteer organizations – such as children’s sports groups – to obtain national and state criminal history background checks on their volunteers
Policing and criminal justice reform
  • Co-authored the 1994 crime bill, which has been credited with decreasing levels of violent crime, but also increasing rates of incarceration. Biden has recognized flaws with the original bill and his proposed policies look to address many of the concerns that resulted
 
My thoughts are superficially plausible, but actually wrong ? Oh well - Biden has a lot to work on. Meaning Pandemic, Riots, Unemployment, Rampant Fires, American Isolation , and all of that. We will just have to see how he does. The point of the thread : mortal sin with your vote … I felt that voting for Hillary was very wrong - I couldn’t do it. This time I felt that a vote for Trump was stomach turning - I couldn’t do it.
 
He’s a member of the anti-life/pro-abortion party…

If a person is okay with killing babies inside of their mothers, then why should we trust such a person with anything?
 
That party irresponsibly encouraged people to come to this country illegally!
 
Flor said:
My thoughts are superficially plausible, but actually wrong ? Oh well - Biden has a lot to work on. Meaning Pandemic, Riots, Unemployment, Rampant Fires, American Isolation , and all of that. We will just have to see how he does. The point of the thread : mortal sin with your vote … I felt that voting for Hillary was very wrong - I couldn’t do it. This time I felt that a vote for Trump was stomach turning - I couldn’t do it.
Click to expand...
Biden will likely show some success at the contrived issues that created the supposed social dissent, because the state bureaucracy and progressives that populate the system and funding will retract much of it and make the supposedly public dissent disappear.

The funding sources for the extreme left have unleashed a fury that they may not be able to control, though. Ted Wheeler in Portland is finding that out at the moment. The unrest may continue and possibly get much worse if the mob are as sociopathic and not merely the paid stooges that it appears they are.

The crisis that is Covid will be interesting, especially if it is completely out of the hands humans to control. My guess is that it will rapidly disappear if it is a manipulated crisis. Look to China to be the saviour here to increase its global reach and hegemony. Notice no second wave in China. If it lingers or gets worse, especially much worse, Joe’s response won’t be pretty. Both are possible, the question is which will occur.

China will once again eat our lunch with trade. Employment will drop like a stone with GND policies.

I have suspected that much of the progressive politics are targeting the US and the middle class in western nations generally to take it down and make the American people less of a factor stopping the globalist takeover of the Great Reset. In America it will get much harder for the common person, but likely much better for the connected elites. Venezuela is the model they have for the US. It won’t be merely stomach turning, it will be absolutely gut wrenching.

A year from now this will become much more obvious and voter regret will kick in. Sometimes learning by experience is the only way for some - abstract analysis is difficult which is why they leave it to the “experts” to do it for them.
 
Last edited:
ProVobis said:
40.png
HarryStotle:
Look to China to be the saviour here to increase its global reach and hegemony.
Click to expand...
Don’t overlook India whose economy may overtake both the U.S. and China.
Click to expand...
Actually I was specifically referring to this Covid crisis. It will step forward to resolve the crisis and restore its “standing” with the world so the great reset can continue.

Check its numbers - no second wave although long past due. Should raise suspicions given that it opened up its economy much more extensively than other nations have.
 
Last edited:
What percentage of those who voted for Biden do you think are NOT aware of the Catholic Church’s - ergo Christ’s teachings - on abortion?

I’m guessing some young voters might not be, but not all of them. So imo, out of all the people who voted for Biden, maybe 2% of his supporters are completely 100% unaware of what the Catholic Church teaches on this matter. And the rest of his supporters do know but obviously don’t care.
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top